OFFICIAL:I **** HATE DOLAN, THIS ORG, MELO, JR, ETC THREAD

[[GR]]

just connect the dots. Its common sense that Lin wanted Houston and the reasoning behind it. Just keep posting the same thing though, I have already proven my point.

Connect what does? The dots in your crazy little mind? I think there's too many dots there for them to be connected.

You've proven absolutely no point at all. You are posting straight garbage with no facts.

It was posted by Berman. It's why the FO is upset with Lin. Stop acting like the kid is innocent. He signed the contract. He wanted out, and he wanted to get paid.

[ChartFiction]

Who knows what JRs thinking is... But he could have gotten much more out there on the market. And he's still a knick. Same can't be said about Lin.

Not that much more. He just came off a 40%FG season and a 30%FG playoffs(as the 2nd shooting option). Not a bad idea to take a 1 yr contract and getting what he can next year.

[GnarlesOakley]

just connect the dots. Its common sense that Lin wanted Houston and the reasoning behind it. Just keep posting the same thing though, I have already proven my point.

Connect what does? The dots in your crazy little mind? I think there's too many dots there for them to be connected.

You've proven absolutely no point at all. You are posting straight garbage with no facts.

It was posted by Berman. It's why the FO is upset with Lin. Stop acting like the kid is innocent. He signed the contract. He wanted out, and he wanted to get paid.

He wanted to get paid, that's obvious. How do we know he wanted out? Based on what little we know, it sounds like he wanted to get paid. Anything else is speculation.

The Knicks never offered him anything but a promise.

[Mr_Perfect]

Mr_Perfect, there were reports/rumors Lin was upset with the initial offer before the second one even came out.. That he thought he could get more, but didn't want to risk losing out so he stuck with it... Then he meets with Houston again and they come to a new deal.. It's a negotiation, isn't it? Doesn't Lin and his agent have some sort of say in what the offer is? The idea that he blindly signed w/e was put in front of him and had no say in anything seems silly. He's a harvard guy - they played the business game and got his money.

The narrative that the Knicks are in debt to Lin and must match anything and everything no matter what doesn't hold up for me. He isn't Lebron. If Houston wants to overpay him and he wants to accept the big money a desperate team is willing to throw at him, go for it. Just don't expect to be chased after.

Who knows what JRs thinking is... But he could have gotten much more out there on the market. And he's still a knick. Same can't be said about Lin.

Let's start this off by saying JR is a complete clown who was not rumored to go anywhere. By the time he re-signed the Knicks a lot of cap space had dried up around the league. Nobody was going to offer him much more than $2.8 million and nobody was going to give such a clown a long-term contract.

The only reports that came out about Lin were from the following people: Berman, Isola, Stephen A. All of these individuals are either morons or have their own agenda or both.

The Knicks never made any offer to Lin and kept telling everyone they were going to match the original contract. The Rockets are the ones who changed the terms of the deal so they could get Lin. Yes, believe it or not, the Rockets want Lin more than the Knicks in this situation. And by including that poison pill, they showed that. This isn't about Lin renegotiating anything. That's just a crock. The Rockets want Lin at all costs and changed the terms of their own offer - an offer, not a contract - to make it harder for the Knicks to match. It worked. The Knicks didn't think Lin was worth that luxury tax payment for one year.

[No-Man]

back on topic.

Thanks to JR for being loyal. Keep posting crazy stuff on twitter and laughing at the replies. You are controlling the haters like puppets

This

Lin's fans go away to Houston board, you're not welcome

[[GR]]

What a stupid thread. Knicks haven't won a chip in 40 years. If anything, the Lin curse will be the Knicks winning every year now.

[GnarlesOakley]

Mr_Perfect, there were reports/rumors Lin was upset with the initial offer before the second one even came out.. That he thought he could get more, but didn't want to risk losing out so he stuck with it... Then he meets with Houston again and they come to a new deal.. It's a negotiation, isn't it? Doesn't Lin and his agent have some sort of say in what the offer is? The idea that he blindly signed w/e was put in front of him and had no say in anything seems silly. He's a harvard guy - they played the business game and got his money.

The narrative that the Knicks are in debt to Lin and must match anything and everything no matter what doesn't hold up for me. He isn't Lebron. If Houston wants to overpay him and he wants to accept the big money a desperate team is willing to throw at him, go for it. Just don't expect to be chased after.

Who knows what JRs thinking is... But he could have gotten much more out there on the market. And he's still a knick. Same can't be said about Lin.

Let's start this off by saying JR is a complete clown who was not rumored to go anywhere. By the time he re-signed the Knicks a lot of cap space had dried up around the league. Nobody was going to offer him much more than $2.8 million and nobody was going to give such a clown a long-term contract.

The only reports that came out about Lin were from the following people: Berman, Isola, Stephen A. All of these individuals are either morons or have their own agenda or both.

The Knicks never made any offer to Lin and kept telling everyone they were going to match the original contract. The Rockets are the ones who changed the terms of the deal so they could get Lin. Yes, believe it or not, the Rockets want Lin more than the Knicks in this situation. And by including that poison pill, they showed that. This isn't about Lin renegotiating anything. That's just a crock. The Rockets want Lin at all costs and changed the terms of their own offer - an offer, not a contract - to make it harder for the Knicks to match. It worked. The Knicks didn't think Lin was worth that luxury tax payment for one year.

The best post in this thread.

[yaboynyp]

The gallo trade was just a precursor. This move should not be a shocker .

TKF can you give us a thread on your thoughts about this trainwreck. Dying to hear you rip this turd of an organization.

Please no...

[Mr_Perfect]

just connect the dots. Its common sense that Lin wanted Houston and the reasoning behind it. Just keep posting the same thing though, I have already proven my point.

Connect what does? The dots in your crazy little mind? I think there's too many dots there for them to be connected.

You've proven absolutely no point at all. You are posting straight garbage with no facts.

It was posted by Berman. It's why the FO is upset with Lin. Stop acting like the kid is innocent. He signed the contract. He wanted out, and he wanted to get paid.

Already fail #1.

He signed an offer sheet. The Knicks didn't make him any offers. I don't think you've been watching basketball for too long. How many players have signed big offer sheets with other teams had them matched by the team? Do you consider those players "traitors" too? It's a business first before anything.

Again, the Knicks thought it was prudent to waste hundreds of millions on lottery teams for players who were downright awful but couldn't pay a year's worth of luxury tax to keep a young, talent point guard on their team.

[MaseInYourFace]

Knicks should have made first offer. When people were saying that at firsts I was kinda poo-pooing it but they were right. They could have been in the pilot seat instead of letting Houston dictate terms...

[CANiLIVE]

1h JR Smith JR Smith ‏@TheRealJRSmith

Say what y'all want about me I love all my teammates! ‪#justlikedat‬

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Who gone die loyal! ‪#kiss

2h ESPN ESPN ‏@espn

RT @SportsCenter: Report: Knicks WILL NOT match Houston's offer sheet for Jeremy Lin. @JLin7 will join Rockets - http://es.pn/Mij2vT
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Throwing Lin under the bus cause he's just a false guy.

Loving JR, he just stays for less money and put all his heart on the team, Knick for life.

Can this he took less he's my hero stop, he's getting paid next year. We have his rights smh.

[PainKiller]

This will go down as one of the dumbest mistakes is sports, I'm proud to be part of knicks history....

[[GR]]

Already fail #1.

He signed an offer sheet. The Knicks didn't make him any offers. I don't think you've been watching basketball for too long. How many players have signed big offer sheets with other teams had them matched by the team? Do you consider those players "traitors" too? It's a business first before anything.

Traitors? No, but loyal? Not a chance. They took the money, and were going to play for another team. What Lin did was worse, because he went behind the Knicks' back to ask for more guaranteed money.

Again, the Knicks thought it was prudent to waste hundreds of millions on lottery teams for players who were downright awful but couldn't pay a year's worth of luxury tax to keep a young, talent point guard on their team.

This isn't about money. Lin spurned the front office with his actions. That's why he's not coming back.

[TKF]

Good post kos as u said, i will root for this team , but i donr expect much . I saw this mess long ago and i called it out then.

[Mr_Perfect]

Traitors? No, but loyal? Not a chance. They took the money, and were going to play for another team. What Lin did was worse, because he went behind the Knicks' back to ask for more guaranteed money.

But yet, that never happened. So you fail again. How's that tin foil hat fitting you?

This isn't about money. Lin spurned the front office with his actions. That's why he's not coming back.

Well, that changes everything then, doesn't it? It makes the decision even worse because it's based on Dolan being a tool than actually building a successful team with talented players.

[kmav23]

J.R. Smith was arrested on Thursday in South Beach.


According to TMZ, the NBA star was pulled over during a routine traffic stop but was hauled in to jail once officers realized that there was a warrant out for Smith’s arrest.

The warrant stemmed from an incident in May 2011 when J.R. Smith was ticketed for riding a scooter without a license. Smith was ordered to stand trial on July 25th but he never showed. The judge issued a warrant for his arrest, and last night, well, J.R. was arrested.

Smith was booked into Miami-Dade County jail around midnight. He was released shortly after on bond.

The NY Times reports that this is just the latest in a long string of legal trouble for the New York Knicks’ star. In 2007, Smith had his license suspended after a reckless driving accident killed his friend Andre Bell. The suspension ended in March of this year. It was the sixth time that Smith has had his license suspended.

Smith stayed out of trouble for the most part this season but was fined by the NBA after he tweeted a photo of his naked girlfriend.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/242757/j-r-smi ... PDyIi4m.99


This guy is ticking time bomb !!!!

keep speeding after already killed 2 people....his friend and another person

[solis2sole]

he tested the market, got a great contract for himself. i don't begrudge him that...but c'mon he had to know when he went back and signed that revised offer sheet, what the numbers would do to the knicks and their finances. as a harvard grad, he knew exactly what he was doing. lin knew the knicks would match the first offer sheet. so, either he gets the rockets to up the ante or the rockets ups the ante...no one made him sign it. again, i'm not hating on a man making his money...but don't paint lin Iinto someone the knicks betrayed. no disrespect to anyone, lin might be a follower of christ, but he isn't the knicks savior. he don't walk on water and he cant turn water into wine.

he's a guy who played 25 games, set MSG on fire, set the league on fire...but if the knicks matched this offer sheet, they'd get burned. sorry, jeremy lin isnt a 14 mil dollar player (i guess he will be to the team who pays his salary)...but he isn't worth the money.

as fans we have been screaming to become FISCALLY responsible. well guess what, they have decided to be fiscally responsible. i will support this team, with or without lin...i root for the jersey, i root for the team.

lin is as good as gone, he played a part in it, the knicks played a part in it. if anyone thinks jeremy lin didnt know what he was doing when he signed that offer sheet...or maybe he's so delusional he really believed the knicks would really match ANY OFFER UP TO A BILLION DOLLARS...or maybe he truly believes they would match any offer because in 25 games he went from SHID to the SHID.

either way, i say thanks for your service jeremy, best of luck in houston. WELCOME back raymond felton, you're a knick again, now its your turn to go from shid, to the shid, to shid, to the shid again...lol. and when you do, watch all the chickens come home to roost again.

The Jeremy Lin obsession is disturbing. I like Jeremy as much as anyone, but Dude doesn't want to play for the knicks , and people are contemplating suicide if the knicks don't match. If lin does indeed go, I hope his worshippers go with him so this board can be readable again.

How do you know he doesn't want to play for the Knicks? Another baseless post.

[Knicker23]

Marc Berman
As we reported, Felton was promised starting PG guard when he signed, with Kidd as backup. Felton, Kidd, Spanish League warhorse Pablo Prigioni as third string will be fine. Unsure of Linsanity clamor once Felton came aboard. Why create an uncomfortable logjam filled with controversy. That's not exactly what feel-good Disney Movie from last February/March was about. That was an unforgettable moment in time and would never be same. It passed when Lin redid offer sheet.



Why would the Knicks take such a different stance on this matter if Lin hadn't, as reported, redid the offer sheet? If it were sole the Rockets doing they'd be annoyed at the Rockets, and Dolan would match it out of spite -- would he not? To act like Lin had nothing to do with it is reaching.

[Mr_Perfect]

Marc Berman
As we reported, Felton was promised starting PG guard when he signed, with Kidd as backup. Felton, Kidd, Spanish League warhorse Pablo Prigioni as third string will be fine. Unsure of Linsanity clamor once Felton came aboard. Why create an uncomfortable logjam filled with controversy. That's not exactly what feel-good Disney Movie from last February/March was about. That was an unforgettable moment in time and would never be same. It passed when Lin redid offer sheet.



Why would the Knicks take such a different stance on this matter if Lin hadn't, as reported, redid the offer sheet? If it were the Rockets they'd be annoyed at the Rockets, and Dolan would match it out of spite -- would he not? To act like Lin had nothing to do with it is reaching.

Why do you keep quoting Marc Berman?

[[GR]]

Traitors? No, but loyal? Not a chance. They took the money, and were going to play for another team. What Lin did was worse, because he went behind the Knicks' back to ask for more guaranteed money.

But yet, that never happened. So you fail again. How's that tin foil hat fitting you?

"The Post reported on its back page Saturday the Knicks were furious the Rockets changed the offer sheet for Lin and upgraded it to a $25 million guarantee over three years, according to a source. The Knicks were bitter because they told Lin immediately the club would match the original offer and Lin apparently shared the information with the Rockets. Lin and Houston then plotted to redo it.

Lin secretly flew into Las Vegas without informing the Knicks to renegotiate the contract and sign it."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/s ... z20vbwyw6d

Stop defending, and just accept he did that. Regardless if he had the right to do it, it was shady.

This isn't about money. Lin spurned the front office with his actions. That's why he's not coming back.

Well, that changes everything then, doesn't it? It makes the decision even worse because it's based on Dolan being a tool than actually building a successful team with talented players.

If they thought they couldn't replace him, they would bring him back despite it. That clearly wasn't the case. Not disrespecting the franchise is a big deal.