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Post#1 » by MNPacersfan » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:44 pm

"James Anderson Wants Return to Spurs
July 16, 2012
James Anderson, an unrestricted FA, would like to return to Spurs. If not? “Life goes on,” he says. Understands numbers stacked against him.

via Jeff McDonald via Twitter"
http://www.hoopsworld.com/daily-nba-news

I loved James Anderson coming out of college. Injuries seriously took a toll on him though. I wonder if his price is low enough for the Pacers to consider submitting an offer? If he can get healthy I think he'd be a great 2-3 to bring off of the bench.
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Post#2 » by Moooose » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:04 pm

I liked him in college but i think we need someone better than Lance to be the primary back-up at the 2.
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Post#3 » by Jake0890 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:33 pm

^ He's not a bad player, but I don't think he's the kind of player we're looking for. If we're going to go after a 2 guard, my first choice would still be Courtney Lee. If we can't get him, I'd still rather resign Barbosa than Anderson, because as you said, injuries took a toll on him, and he still may be affected by constant nagging injuries in the future.
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Post#4 » by granger05 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:45 pm

People keep throwing around Courtney Lee and OJ Mayo's names, but once we resigned Hibbert and Hill officially didn't we close the door on any other signings. We don't have cap room now to offer anything beyond min deals and then I think that one 2m exception (I'm totally guessing at that one, but I think we're eligible for one of the exceptions under the new CBA). I guess we could do a S&T with one of them if their old teams wanted Hansbrough? I view this as unlikely.
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Post#5 » by Jake0890 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:50 pm

Yeah, I'm not sure they'll be able to sign him because I'm not sure they'll be able to offer more money than the other teams that are interested. I'd like Lee, but it's doubtful that we'll get him, at least in my mind.

But still, if the Pacers do decide to attempt to sign a backup 2 guard, Barbosa would be the most likely scenario, as long as he is willing to take a smaller salary.
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Post#6 » by granger05 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:16 pm

I really wanted Mayo early on in free agency. At the time, we did have money to spend and I think he could have filled the backup roles at both guard spots. However, I can see why he didn't want to come over. If the Suns had landed Gordon then I think that we may have been in position to be the top Mayo bidder and had a good shot at him. I suspect that our lack of a clear path to lots of playing time for him probably made us a long shot. Hill's payday and George's status as a fan favorite would make Mayo an unlikely starter and I would guess that's what he's after at this point in his career.

As far as a backup SG goes, I think that what we need at this point is someone who is solid, but willing to ride the pine if things work out well and Lance/Orlando can step up and fill some minutes there. A guy like Dahntay Jones basically.
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Post#7 » by Jake0890 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:05 pm

granger05 wrote: As far as a backup SG goes, I think that what we need at this point is someone who is solid, but willing to ride the pine if things work out well and Lance/Orlando can step up and fill some minutes there. A guy like Dahntay Jones basically.


It's too bad we had to deal him to get Mahinmi. He was a class-act and I really liked his effort on the court. If we still had him, we probably wouldn't need a backup 2, because we know he can step in and fill some minutes and produce well. The remaining 2 guards on the market seem to want a bigger payday than we can justify spending, which is why Dahntay would've been valuable to us.
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Post#8 » by Wizop » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:14 pm

I really think they decided that it was Lance's time to sink or swim at the backup 2 and having Dahntay around was going to be a distraction. besides it was going to be his final contract year and he probably would have been very unhappy not being able to show other teams that they ought to pick him up for next year. I don't think this was a case where we got our arm twisted to include him in the deal. I think we twisted Dallas's arm to take him to get Collison.
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Post#9 » by Jake0890 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:21 pm

Wizop wrote:I really think they decided that it was Lance's time to sink or swim at the backup 2 and having Dahntay around was going to be a distraction. besides it was going to be his final contract year and he probably would have been very unhappy not being able to show other teams that they ought to pick him up for next year. I don't think this was a case where we got our arm twisted to include him in the deal. I think we twisted Dallas's arm to take him to get Collison.


Sounds like you're right. Frank Vogel did an interview with 1070 The Fan's Dan Dakich. Vogel said:
He's ready to get his shot. The moves we made on our bench are setting him up to be the backup shooting guard and he's going to get the opportunity to go into training camp with that as his role.

It's time for us to find out, to really find out, about Lance Stephenson. We feel like we've got some guys around him in Gerald Green and D.J. Augustin -- two laser 3-point shooters -- that are just going create space for him to go to work. We're looking forward to seeing him come in and take the next step.


Vogel also said they were keeping Mavunga around until training camp. He can probably turn into an undersized power forward like Udonis Haslem or Carl Landry.

The entire podcast can be found here, although it's not really a podcast, Vogel speaks for a very short amount of time.

Never mind, I can't post the link. Haven't been here for 10 days. But the podcast is on 1070thefan.com, if you want to find it yourself.
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Post#10 » by basketballwacko2 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:20 pm

Jake0890 wrote:^ He's not a bad player, but I don't think he's the kind of player we're looking for. If we're going to go after a 2 guard, my first choice would still be Courtney Lee. If we can't get him, I'd still rather resign Barbosa than Anderson, because as you said, injuries took a toll on him, and he still may be affected by constant nagging injuries in the future.



I would like to have Barbosa back at a good contract rate, 3 yrs $3.5 per. 8-)
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Post#11 » by Jake0890 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:30 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Jake0890 wrote:^ He's not a bad player, but I don't think he's the kind of player we're looking for. If we're going to go after a 2 guard, my first choice would still be Courtney Lee. If we can't get him, I'd still rather resign Barbosa than Anderson, because as you said, injuries took a toll on him, and he still may be affected by constant nagging injuries in the future.



I would like to have Barbosa back at a good contract rate, 3 yrs $3.5 per. 8-)


We don't have 3.5 mil in salary cap space. I believe we have the 2.6 bi-annual exception, but that's it.
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Post#12 » by SmashMouthRod » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:38 am

Wizop wrote:I really think they decided that it was Lance's time to sink or swim at the backup 2 and having Dahntay around was going to be a distraction. besides it was going to be his final contract year and he probably would have been very unhappy not being able to show other teams that they ought to pick him up for next year. I don't think this was a case where we got our arm twisted to include him in the deal. I think we twisted Dallas's arm to take him to get Collison.


I agree that its that time for Lance to showcase what he can do. He has displayed a full array of offensive skills (passing; getting to the basket; jump shooting). A player like him needs to be playing to have a chance to grow as a player.
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Re: James Anderson 

Post#13 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:01 pm

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basketballwacko2 wrote:

I would like to have Barbosa back at a good contract rate, 3 yrs $3.5 per. 8-)


We don't have 3.5 mil in salary cap space. I believe we have the 2.6 bi-annual exception, but that's it.



So are you saying that $3.5 million more will put us over the luxury tax? Can't we excede the cap when signing our own FA's?
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Re: James Anderson 

Post#14 » by Jake0890 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:29 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:
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basketballwacko2 wrote:

I would like to have Barbosa back at a good contract rate, 3 yrs $3.5 per. 8-)


We don't have 3.5 mil in salary cap space. I believe we have the 2.6 bi-annual exception, but that's it.



So are you saying that $3.5 million more will put us over the luxury tax? Can't we excede the cap when signing our own FA's?


Honestly, I don't know. I have very limited knowledge of the CBA, and I thought the only time you could go over the salary cap to resign a player was with bird rights, which came after 3 years playing with the team.
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Post#15 » by basketballwacko2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:57 pm

Jake0890 wrote:
So are you saying that $3.5 million more will put us over the luxury tax? Can't we excede the cap when signing our own FA's?


Honestly, I don't know. I have very limited knowledge of the CBA, and I thought the only time you could go over the salary cap to resign a player was with bird rights, which came after 3 years playing with the team.[/quote]


I don't know either but I bet Scoot Knows!
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Post#17 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:03 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Jake0890 wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
So are you saying that $3.5 million more will put us over the luxury tax? Can't we excede the cap when signing our own FA's?


Honestly, I don't know. I have very limited knowledge of the CBA, and I thought the only time you could go over the salary cap to resign a player was with bird rights, which came after 3 years playing with the team.



I don't know either but I bet Scoot Knows!


If you don't have Bird rights, or even Early Bird rights, you would have to use an exception (such as the MLE, room exception, Bi Annual Exception [or it's new equivalent, not sure if the name stayed the same], etc).
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Re: James Anderson 

Post#18 » by Jake0890 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:27 am

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Jake0890 wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:Honestly, I don't know. I have very limited knowledge of the CBA, and I thought the only time you could go over the salary cap to resign a player was with bird rights, which came after 3 years playing with the team.



I don't know either but I bet Scoot Knows!


If you don't have Bird rights, or even Early Bird rights, you would have to use an exception (such as the MLE, room exception, Bi Annual Exception [or it's new equivalent, not sure if the name stayed the same], etc).


And we do not have bird rights, correct? If not, all we have is the 2.6 million left in our MLE.

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