Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition)

[cvMagic]

Brian Schmitz is the most irrational sports reporter. He wants Bynum over a rebuild. Not that simple. Organizations need to start over sometimes. Its part of the process. So you get Bynum, what happens if his knees give out? what happens if he walks? Keeping Bynum leaves you in purgatory for years. I really hate to say this because RDV is a very nice man, but i dont think the Magic will get a championship in his lifetime. Its unfortunate.......

Irrational? Think you might feel that way because it goes against what you want?
I'd much rather spend the money on Bynum than J smith or the vastly overrated Monta next offseason. You only get so many chances at a difference maker. Bynum is an 18 and 11 guy on a squad where he is sometimes the 3rd option. Those numbers soar in Orlando. We can easily be talking about a 23 and 14 guy who's only 25 years old a year from now if he's given the chance to be a top option.

You can retool around Bynum. You can still draft well around Bynum. Our problem with Dwight is that other than JJ and a single season of CLee, the Magic never added a true rotation player from the draft during Dwight's time. That changes under Henny, regardless of where we pick.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Larry Ridley ‏@mrlarryridley
#Magic source, if D12 traded which isn't a given, Hennigan "wants to get young and rebuild with guys on rookie scale contracts" #Orlando

Believe it or not. It's the way to go, and I'm already sign up...
7 words = H-O-U-S-T-O-N

[Grady1train]

You always post as if you are involved in HOU's front office. Why do you even keep posting here??? Nobody here cares...

Basketball discussion. You may not care, but I am sure there are plenty who would be interested in the Rocket perspective.

Hence why the Cavs are involved. If Houston doesn't give up enough assets then they could end up without either center.

I don't think the Cavs have much to offer. A couple future firsts? They are a team on the rise, not going into the dump.

I appreciate the Houston perspective simply because that is what I see as the most viable option right now. Also, I agree I don't think the Cavs have very viable options in regards to the future because the youth they do have appears to be youth they don't nor should anyone expect them to part with. Houston on the other hand is in a rebuilding process and has several good young players that play similar positions, and could be great down the road.

Also, how do Lakers fans honestly expect to get Dwight without seeing at the very least Ebanks leaving them in return? I mean even with a third team involved, I don't see any deal going down without absorbing any form of youth the Lakers have in place.

[Howard Mass]

I think what Larry Ridley is saying is pretty much the deal.

I've always maintained...........

Youth on good contracts, picks, move contracts.

[ThatFloridaDude]

What people don't understand about the Cle trade is that OUR draft pick becomes lotto aswell as whatever picks we get from the Cavs.

Whereas if we took Bynum we'll have our mid-teen pick and that's it..... Would you rather have top 5 picks over the next few years or have mid-teen picks with Bynum? People want things done now, that's where Bynum comes in. The intellectual way would be to go with the rebuild.

Let Miami have their reign, we'll come back strong for their downfall.

Mid-Teens with Bynum. He's a known quantity, has star potential, and will instantly be a top three center in the east. He's a building block that we know can play, is only 24, and has potential to get even better.

100% best post I've read today.

[cvMagic]

I would have disagree with those who don't think you could build a contender around Bynum. On his own team as the focus with good wings and solid defenders you can be competitive, very competitive.

I would rather have a team that has a shot at making a run if there are injuries or issues with the "super teams a sleeper team could take it. You have as much a chance of that happening as you do landing a third superstar in the lottery.

Agreed.

and here's what everyone forgets. You can't match up with Lebron and Drose and those guys. You just can't. So YOU NEED A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN THE AREAS WHERE THEIR TEAMS ARE WEAK.

Other than Tyson Chadler, there aren't many guys who can match up with Bynum in the East. and if his game continues to grow - he's 24 people - there won't be anyone who can match up with him.

The Heat have problems with teams with strong presences in the post. That's the only shot Orlando has in the near future.

[jadewbj]

Brian Schmitz is the most irrational sports reporter. He wants Bynum over a rebuild. Not that simple. Organizations need to start over sometimes. Its part of the process. So you get Bynum, what happens if his knees give out? what happens if he walks? Keeping Bynum leaves you in purgatory for years. I really hate to say this because RDV is a very nice man, but i dont think the Magic will get a championship in his lifetime. Its unfortunate.......

Irrational? Think you might feel that way because it goes against what you want?
I'd much rather spend the money on Bynum than J smith or the vastly overrated Monta next offseason. You only get so many chances at a difference maker. Bynum is an 18 and 11 guy on a squad where he is sometimes the 3rd option. Those numbers soar in Orlando. We can easily be talking about a 23 and 14 guy who's only 25 years old a year from now if he's given the chance to be a top option.

You can retool around Bynum. You can still draft well around Bynum. Our problem with Dwight is that other than JJ and a single season of CLee, the Magic never added a true rotation player from the draft during Dwight's time. That changes under Henny, regardless of where we pick.

Yup, we drafted poorly under the last regime (FRAN) we are already light years ahead with henny at the helm.

[Nyce_1]

another good read:

New article via Tony Mejia

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/s ... r-houston/

[Def Swami]

Taken from TBN from YBR:

Hennigan is in no rush to make a trade, opinion no trade happening this weekend. Also don't be shocked if Rob flies out there to meet with Dwight again

He's trying and Dwights listening. Hennigan is the only person left that can keep him in Orlando

[MagicTownBaller]

Listening to the Stephen A. Smith show with Jarrod Rudolph. Most likely just saying what he said last night.

[cvMagic]

What people don't understand about the Cle trade is that OUR draft pick becomes lotto aswell as whatever picks we get from the Cavs.

Whereas if we took Bynum we'll have our mid-teen pick and that's it..... Would you rather have top 5 picks over the next few years or have mid-teen picks with Bynum? People want things done now, that's where Bynum comes in. The intellectual way would be to go with the rebuild.

Let Miami have their reign, we'll come back strong for their downfall.

Uh... no.

That's not how it works at all. And let's not just give Miami a 5 year reign. That's stupid. A few weeks ago everyone was wondering if DWade could make it through the playoffs. Now, all of a sudden he's going to be great for another 5 years? Come on people.

Dwade probably has two elite years left. So let's see... that gives the Magic two years to draft well, get rid of toxic contracts, and build around a center who will be 26 and just entering his prime.

Uh... how does ANY OTHER PLAN even remotely sound more rational than that? I'm sorry, but we can leave the "cross your fingers and hope the ping pongs bounce your way" theory to the Bobcats and the people who believe in unicorns.

[MagicTownBaller]

Jarrod Rudolph said there is NO chance that Dwight stays in Orlando.

[rcklsscognition]

Did Rudolph set the record for most radio appearances in a 12 hour span? Went to sleep after he did the 1st on Yahoo and then saw he did like 10 more afterwards. No sleep.

[ZeusIsLoose]

Brian Schmitz is the most irrational sports reporter. He wants Bynum over a rebuild. Not that simple. Organizations need to start over sometimes. Its part of the process. So you get Bynum, what happens if his knees give out? what happens if he walks? Keeping Bynum leaves you in purgatory for years. I really hate to say this because RDV is a very nice man, but i dont think the Magic will get a championship in his lifetime. Its unfortunate.......

Irrational? Think you might feel that way because it goes against what you want?
I'd much rather spend the money on Bynum than J smith or the vastly overrated Monta next offseason. You only get so many chances at a difference maker. Bynum is an 18 and 11 guy on a squad where he is sometimes the 3rd option. Those numbers soar in Orlando. We can easily be talking about a 23 and 14 guy who's only 25 years old a year from now if he's given the chance to be a top option.

You can retool around Bynum. You can still draft well around Bynum. Our problem with Dwight is that other than JJ and a single season of CLee, the Magic never added a true rotation player from the draft during Dwight's time. That changes under Henny, regardless of where we pick.

Rigghhhhtttttt, because rebuilding on a guy that a.) can bolt after this year and b.) that has consistent knee problems makes a lot of sense......

[Chet Wagner]

I think I actually believe Dwight's camp on this, they're not even trying to trade Dwight

It's beyond logic, it's beyond explanation..but everything so far fits in line with it. I think they're overblowing the whole "Oh they're trying to make Dwight a villain blah blah", but still - I really don't think they actually want a trade right now. I can't think of any explanation for it..maybe Devos has gone senile and still thinks he can convince him or something. It just doesn't make sense

[Def Swami]

So why is CLE tossed into these talks, I ask? I think I found an answer.
http://tampabay.sbnation.com/orlando-ma ... ors-lakers

Sure, Cleveland would be able to take on a couple of bad deals, but the Magic would have to take back Anderson Varejao. Don't get me wrong, Varejao is a good player who any team could use, but he's owed $8,368,182 next season and $9,036,364 during the 2013-14 season. Varejao will be 30 by the time the season starts. there are rumors the Magic would simply buy out Varejao, but part of his salary would still count against the cap. Varejao is a client of Howard's agent Dan Fegan. The Magic look like they would prefer not to work with Fegan any more.

I'm done with this CLE idea altogether.

[jadewbj]

Jarrod Rudolph said there is NO chance that Dwight stays in Orlando.

He also said that it was 90% he was going to BK.

The OKC route is not proven yet. They still have to end up keeping all three of the amazing drfats they got. If even one bolts without compensation than that plan doesn't work.

[MagicTownBaller]

I think I actually believe Dwight's camp on this, they're not even trying to trade Dwight

Sad part is I believe it also.

[ThatFloridaDude]

Brian Schmitz is the most irrational sports reporter. He wants Bynum over a rebuild. Not that simple. Organizations need to start over sometimes. Its part of the process. So you get Bynum, what happens if his knees give out? what happens if he walks? Keeping Bynum leaves you in purgatory for years. I really hate to say this because RDV is a very nice man, but i dont think the Magic will get a championship in his lifetime. Its unfortunate.......

Well while I don't like Brian, I'd want Bynum over a rebuild too. You say Organizations need to start over but So many teams in the NBA go through Rebuilds and remain noncompetitive for x amount of years. We need to remain competitive and get better. People are throwing that out when they won't even give Bynum and a solid team around him a chance, but willing to take the risk on a bunch of rookies? Rob is a sharp guy, and I don't doubt his ability , but geeesh everybody on here wants to rebuild? Seriously? Bynum is a Center, a position which he can easily dominate and put Orlando back as one of the competitive teams in the east (offensively) and along with the right peices we can contend. who's to say what piece won't fit right with Bynum? You don't find Bynums everyday. Same goes for Dwight Howard. These are not players you pass on. Passing on Bynum will hurt this team so much more than it hurts now and I'll just sit back watching sun sports saying "I told you so". And We definetly wont get a championship for RDV rebuilding.

[rcklsscognition]

I think I actually believe Dwight's camp on this, they're not even trying to trade Dwight

It's beyond logic, it's beyond explanation..but everything so far fits in line with it. I think they're overblowing the whole "Oh they're trying to make Dwight a villain blah blah", but still - I really don't think they actually want a trade right now. I can't think of any explanation for it..maybe Devos has gone senile and still thinks he can convince him or something. It just doesn't make sense

I agree. The Magic are not really trying to trade Dwight. They "tried" with Brooklyn because they wanted to show Dwight they "tried" but were never going to deal him there. The want Henny to try and then a new HC to try, then they will trade.