Howard Thread III (Howard ready to join Lakers p.68)

[Jetset]

mitch offering a contract extension to Drew is him doing his due diligence, whether you think Bynum would accept or not.

personally, I'm not convinced that Bynum would just shrug off the idea. He knows his knee issues as much as anyone else. Locking himself into a near max deal that pays him til his mid prime when he can get another max deal isn't that hard to imagine.

I don't know how much more blatant a leverage tactic has to be when you threaten to begin extension talks while at the same time being the in the midst of trading the player you say you're going to begin extension talks with.

You can call it diligence, but it's definitely a leverage tactic.

[dockingsched]

mitch offering a contract extension to Drew is him doing his due diligence, whether you think Bynum would accept or not.

personally, I'm not convinced that Bynum would just shrug off the idea. He knows his knee issues as much as anyone else. Locking himself into a near max deal that pays him til his mid prime when he can get another max deal isn't that hard to imagine.

I don't know how much more blatant a leverage tactic has to be when you threaten to begin extension talks while at the same time being the in the midst of trading the player you say you're going to begin extension talks with.

You can call it diligence, but it's definitely a leverage tactic.

what leverage? does signing bynum to an extension suddenly make untradeable?

[Jetset]

Rumor out in LA is that Bynum is not going to sign an extension.

And he's not going to because he stands to make more money by becoming a free agent. Like I've been saying.

Fool Ive been saying the same thing! But yeah, Thats why this deal may not get done.

No it's not. It's just like Howard, if he commits to a team beyond this season then the team has that assurance he will look to re-sign at seasons end. How is that going to hold up a potential deal?

[Jetset]

mitch offering a contract extension to Drew is him doing his due diligence, whether you think Bynum would accept or not.

personally, I'm not convinced that Bynum would just shrug off the idea. He knows his knee issues as much as anyone else. Locking himself into a near max deal that pays him til his mid prime when he can get another max deal isn't that hard to imagine.

I don't know how much more blatant a leverage tactic has to be when you threaten to begin extension talks while at the same time being the in the midst of trading the player you say you're going to begin extension talks with.

You can call it diligence, but it's definitely a leverage tactic.

what leverage? does signing bynum to an extension suddenly make untradeable?

Until January, yes it does. Do you see this dragging out to January?

[iamworthy]

No it's not. It's just like Howard, if he commits to a team beyond this season then the team has that assurance he will look to re-sign at seasons end. How is that going to hold up a potential deal?

Word is that Bynum wants to enter free agency. He wants teams to come to his house to try to woo him and tell him how awesome he is.

[Jetset]

No it's not. It's just like Howard, if he commits to a team beyond this season then the team has that assurance he will look to re-sign at seasons end. How is that going to hold up a potential deal?

Word is that Bynum wants to enter free agency. He wants teams to come to his house to try to woo him and tell him how awesome he is.

Howard is going to enter free agency no matter if he gets traded here, Houston, Brooklyn, Cleveland, or Minnesota. It's the same exact thing. It's the commitment to re-sign once your contract is over that matters to teams.

[iamworthy]

No it's not. It's just like Howard, if he commits to a team beyond this season then the team has that assurance he will look to re-sign at seasons end. How is that going to hold up a potential deal?

Word is that Bynum wants to enter free agency. He wants teams to come to his house to try to woo him and tell him how awesome he is.

Howard is going to enter free agency no matter if he gets traded here, Houston, Brooklyn, Cleveland, or Minnesota. It's the same exact thing. It's the commitment to re-sign once your contract is over that matters to teams.

I agree, I just dont think Bynum is going to do what howard did which is agree to resign with us. I think Bynum is going to give some answers like, Im going to look at my options and do whats best for me and my family. Trust me, I want Bynum to commit. I think he would resign because I dont think he's walking away from 25mill. I just dont know if he's going to say the right things to the Cavs if they meet. When was the last time Bynum said something smart? Not saying that if he doesnt commit he's not smart but you catch my drift.

[dockingsched]

what leverage? does signing bynum to an extension suddenly make untradeable?

Until January, yes it does. Do you see this dragging out to January?

he can be traded immediately if his extension falls within the limits of the extend and trade rules. who knows what mitch wants to offer.

[Hunter103]

So the Cavs want Bynum to extend with them. What if they talk and he tells them he won't, but is willing to re-sign for 5 years? Are they willing to pony up for that?

[Jetset]

what leverage? does signing bynum to an extension suddenly make untradeable?

Until January, yes it does. Do you see this dragging out to January?

he can be traded immediately if his extension falls within the limits of the extend and trade rules. who knows what mitch wants to offer.

And yet, why would he threaten to extend Bynum without currently having an agreement from any team (that's known) for a S&T? No deal has been agreed upon yet from any party.

With what you're saying we could just S&T Bynum and be done with it, well then why is there concern about Bynum extending with Cleveland if that's the case?

[Jetset]

So the Cavs want Bynum to extend with them. What if they talk and he tells them he won't, but is willing to re-sign for 5 years? Are they willing to pony up for that?

Well, it'd definitely be more encouraging than Bynum just telling them flat out no. But it's what we plan on doing with Howard.

I think us and Cleveland would probably have Bynum and Howard sign a piece of paper making their intentions known to re-sign at seasons end in case one of them tried something slick.

[BEazy]

Dwightmare to Bynumare?

[dockingsched]

Until January, yes it does. Do you see this dragging out to January?

he can be traded immediately if his extension falls within the limits of the extend and trade rules. who knows what mitch wants to offer.

And yet, why would he threaten to extend Bynum without currently having an agreement from any team (that's known) for a S&T? No deal has been agreed upon yet from any party.

With what you're saying we could just S&T Bynum and be done with it, well then why is there concern about Bynum extending with Cleveland if that's the case?

hmmm, i'm not really sure i'm making my point clear from this reply.

my point is that this "bynum extension" talk from mitch isn't getting anyone any leverage. the magic are going to pull off a trade when they get what they want or wait it out. if thats training camp, start of the season, january, or trade deadline, so be it.

[dockingsched]

So the Cavs want Bynum to extend with them. What if they talk and he tells them he won't, but is willing to re-sign for 5 years? Are they willing to pony up for that?

Well, it'd definitely be more encouraging than Bynum just telling them flat out no. But it's what we plan on doing with Howard.

I think us and Cleveland would probably have Bynum and Howard sign a piece of paper making their intentions known to re-sign at seasons end in case one of them tried something slick.

i don't think you're legally going to get anything more than a verbal promise/agreement. I think thats all you need really.

[WCDYNASTY]

So the Cavs want Bynum to extend with them. What if they talk and he tells them he won't, but is willing to re-sign for 5 years? Are they willing to pony up for that?

Question of the day... hopefully the answer is yes though...

[iamworthy]

Like the lakers were going to do with Howard, Cleveland is going to have to call Andrews Bluff if he doesnt say the words they want to hear.

[Jetset]

my point is that this "bynum extension" talk from mitch isn't getting anyone any leverage. the magic are going to pull off a trade when they get what they want or wait it out. if thats training camp, start of the season, january, or trade deadline, so be it.

You're looking at it from Orlando's standpoint, and they could wait that long. But obviously LA is growing impatient and wants to speed up the process or the thought of them pulling out of the race by extending Bynum would've never been leaked had LA been fine playing months long game of paddy cake.

[Slava]

I think if Bynum is offered a 5 year max contract he will sign anywhere. Too much of a gamble on him to pass before the season starts.

[Jetset]

So the Cavs want Bynum to extend with them. What if they talk and he tells them he won't, but is willing to re-sign for 5 years? Are they willing to pony up for that?

Well, it'd definitely be more encouraging than Bynum just telling them flat out no. But it's what we plan on doing with Howard.

I think us and Cleveland would probably have Bynum and Howard sign a piece of paper making their intentions known to re-sign at seasons end in case one of them tried something slick.

i don't think you're legally going to get anything more than a verbal promise/agreement. I think thats all you need really.

Well then I can definitely see Cleveland possibly being a little weary in dealing for Bynum.

[iamworthy]

I think if Bynum is offered a 5 year max contract he will sign anywhere. Too much of a gamble on him to pass before the season starts.

+1 Im kinda surprised he wouldnt take the 3yr deal. I understand it, but kinda surprised with his history. But if he makes it to next summer no way in hell is he going to give away his bird rights.