moofs wrote:You've definitely got a point. I hadn't really thought of that one.
What I was thinking of though was not the list of guys you showed - because don't get me wrong, I know that guys CAN transition between the roles - but the guys you didn't show.
I was wondering why they don't make it, how many don't make it, why don't they make it, etc? Do they not have sufficient skill? To what degree does politics play into getting a job in the NBA over skill and ability? Are they not able to adapt? What about guys who aren't willing to acknowledge their place in the world and take a backseat? Are they just lacking some elite or very good skill in favor of a broader skillset that works in college but not in the pros?
I was looking at the adapt question and presuming that it was fairly common, but without any kind of numbers, or in-depth knowledge of why guys get drafted, why they don't, and why they aren't able to take off and/or fall out of the league... my statement was admittedly just pulling a bunch of guesswork out of thin air. Given how alpha-oriented the league is, I have a hunch that a lot of guys aren't willing to make the necessary modifications required for them to gain and keep their jobs.
Note: I don't think it's my PHONE that's the problem with not being able to post on realgm, I think it's this site. I'm getting the same issue in IE that I get from my droid, it's just easier to deal with from my PC.
1st switch to "Google Chrome" so much better than IE. I've also wonder if I should get that "tapa-talk?" for my phone cause sometime it can be a pain on my phone.
We would need so much more background info though to properly analyze the issue.
But yea it is a great example of "Nature vs Nuture"
I too have wondered about why some of these guys transition poorly. Johnny Flynn type players for example.
I would assume coaching aspect plays a big role in success. Some coaches would honestly tell player this is what I see you as in the pros, while others would just say no need to learn change anything cause you are dominating for me. Is Melo the only player from Syracuse to play at the same level he did in college?
Players like Adam Morrison I assume, is purely just a lack of confidence once they get in the pros. The ability is all there, they are given the chance... yet they lack confidence in themselves, things are different I guess when you get to your dream.
I know guys like Dwayne Wade have been in different roles all throughout their basketball life's. They learn to succeed in each role, and get great coaching. Usually over looked when picking a school, but as long as they have the size they tend to make it, in what ever role they get. Jordan falls into this category, and so does someone like Novak.
But yea the guys who have always been the best, tend to either completely wash out, or be really good but not quite as great as they should, not always the case though. Steve Francis, McGrady, LeBron, Marbury, Shaq, Kobe etc...
