Jonas Valanciunas Summer Discussion II

xprt · Post #421 » by **xprt** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:26 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:
Dweetright wrote:Do u guys feel he's better than Anthony Davis RIGHT NOW at this stage of their careers? I'm not saying over all career.

Davis could make the all-star team as a rookie IMO.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8[/youtube]

Dweetright · Post #422 » by **Dweetright** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:37 am

Thanks for the response guys. I've been reading these boards since 2005 even though I joined recently. I've been following Jonas's career just like u guys since he was drafted.

Although I respect dr. Mufasa assessment of Jonas, I had a hard time after watching most games of Jonas,what makes Davis miles and miles better than Jonas right now. Yes Davis is defensively a beast, but I'm positive Jonas will give him quite a battle in a head to head matchup.

Wanted to see what the rest of the board thought.

BAMartian · Post #423 » by **BAMartian** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:47 am

I can't wait to see Val against team USA. that's the most important game of the summer as far as I'm concerned.

juostu · Post #424 » by **juostu** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:13 am

Tonight the last final for Jonas' golden generation
Free stream on FIBA website
http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2 ... 3-A-1.html

trenekas · Post #425 » by **trenekas** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:31 am

BAMartian wrote:I can't wait to see Val against team USA. that's the most important game of the summer as far as I'm concerned.

Agree but Jonas this summer also will play against other NBA bigmans, so we are waiting nice summer . :lol:

Los Manos · Post #426 » by **Los Manos** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:53 am

juostu wrote:Tonight the last final for Jonas' golden generation
Free stream on FIBA website
http://u20men.fibaeurope.com/en/cid_FW2 ... 3-A-1.html

The 'golden generation' don't look quite as golden without Valanciunas. They're 2-3 so far in the under 20's.

xprt · Post #427 » by **xprt** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:57 am

Still they made it to the finals

Los Manos · Post #428 » by **Los Manos** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:04 am

xprt wrote:Still they made it to the finals

I hadn't realised it had already got to the final. That semi-final win over Serbia was very impressive considering they hadn't lost a game in the tournament. I assume they are but is Lithuania the favourite in the final against France?

fabste · Post #429 » by **fabste** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:09 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:
Dweetright wrote:Do u guys feel he's better than Anthony Davis RIGHT NOW at this stage of their careers? I'm not saying over all career.

Davis is much much better. Jonas is bad at defense right now and a project at that end who's expected to improve because of his physical tools. Davis is elite at defense right now. And Davis is a better offensive player as well. Davis could make the all-star team as a rookie IMO. Rookie Jonas will be fortunate to better than sophmore Kanter and Biyombo, who I think Davis was probably better than when he was in high school

i can't understand.....hater or troll?

trenekas · Post #430 » by **trenekas** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:16 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:Kanter put up 12/11.5/50% per 36 last year at 19 who didn't play college ball. His skill level in the pros has been very disappointing but he is hardly a bust. I would take Kanter over Derrick Williams, the guy literally everyone else had as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, so there's that. I think Kanter goes above all the other top 10 picks except Irving and Valanciunas if the redraft was done today tbh

First time when i can agee with Mufasa .

Los Manos · Post #431 » by **Los Manos** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:21 am

trenekas wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:Kanter put up 12/11.5/50% per 36 last year at 19 who didn't play college ball. His skill level in the pros has been very disappointing but he is hardly a bust. I would take Kanter over Derrick Williams, the guy literally everyone else had as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, so there's that. I think Kanter goes above all the other top 10 picks except Irving and Valanciunas if the redraft was done today tbh

First time when i can agee with Mufasa .

It seems Mufasa's resolve on Valanciunas is starting to show cracks. Up until a month ago he was saying that Valanciunas wouldn't have been drafted in the top 10 in this years draft.

Los Manos · Post #432 » by **Los Manos** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:29 am

fabste wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:
Dweetright wrote:Do u guys feel he's better than Anthony Davis RIGHT NOW at this stage of their careers? I'm not saying over all career.

Davis is much much better. Jonas is bad at defense right now and a project at that end who's expected to improve because of his physical tools. Davis is elite at defense right now. And Davis is a better offensive player as well. Davis could make the all-star team as a rookie IMO. Rookie Jonas will be fortunate to better than sophmore Kanter and Biyombo, who I think Davis was probably better than when he was in high school

i can't understand.....hater or troll?

I actually don't wildly disagree with Mufasa's assessment here for once. Valanciunas is definitely a project defensively and will have his struggles. Right now he is a better offensive player than a defensive one. He is smart though and will get to his spots defensively in Casey's system. Anthony Davis is just a phenomenal prospect and it's no slight on Valanciunas. If Valanciunas in his rookie year puts up better numbers than a sophomore Kanter then I expect most raptor fans to be very with that.

fabste · Post #433 » by **fabste** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:47 am

yep you took a good point and from that point of view i'm with you and Mufasa
But Davis better than Val offensively today? absolutely false

DA_SCOUT · Post #434 » by **DA_SCOUT** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 am

EFF3KT wrote:Exhibition schedule
July 22 vs Russia

Anyone know the time yet?

DBA · Post #435 » by **DBA** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:09 pm

DA_SCOUT wrote:
EFF3KT wrote:Exhibition schedule
July 22 vs Russia

Anyone know the time yet?

10 AM Toronto time.

Los Manos · Post #436 » by **Los Manos** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:13 pm

DBA wrote:
DA_SCOUT wrote:
EFF3KT wrote:Exhibition schedule
July 22 vs Russia

Anyone know the time yet?

10 AM Toronto time.

Am I to assume the game isn't being broadcast as it isn't currently listed on the usual sites or on rtyas.tv?

xprt · Post #437 » by **xprt** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:29 pm

Its on other channel which doesnt have live stream

LithuanianOne · Post #438 » by **LithuanianOne** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:34 pm

But there will probably/most certainly be some sort of stream available.

carl_english · Post #439 » by **carl_english** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:46 pm

rly excited for val! he gets to start

UcanUwill · Post #440 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:53 pm

LSHunter has a russian stream.