State of the Roster

spolgar · Post #161 » by **spolgar** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:38 pm

Z3Snap, I re-editted my post.

Jacque Vaughn should also work as well.

texasholdem · Post #162 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:51 pm

Z3snap wrote:Marshall was the most talked about guy in March! As the best PG in the country.
The most important if not best player on that UNC team..

Marshall was the 5th leading scorer and took the fewer shots than Barnes, Zeller, Henson or Bullock so how else would you describe him if not 5th option on offense?

MaxRider · Post #163 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:51 pm

Bruce Bowen

texasholdem · Post #164 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:54 pm

MaxRider wrote:Bruce Bowen

He was actually good in college.

Bowen played four seasons at Cal State Fullerton, appearing in 101 games, and averaged 11.4 points and 5.8 rebounds per game.[3] After averaging 16.3 points, 6.5 rebounds and 2.3 assists in 36.6 minutes in 27 games as a senior in 1992–93, he was named to the All-Big West Conference First Team. Bowen ranks 12th on the Titans' all-time list in career points (1,155) and is seventh all-time in rebounds (559).[4]

texasholdem · Post #165 » by **texasholdem** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:44 am

Chris Duhon freshman year at Duke - 6th option behind Jay Williams, Battier, Dunleavy, Boozer and Nate James

Chris Duhon sophomore year at Duke - 5th option behind Jay Williams, Boozer, Dunleavy and Dahntay Jones

Chris Duhon junior year at Duke - 4th option behind D.Jones, JJ Redick and Daniel Ewing

Chris Duhon senior year at Duke - 5th option behind Redick, Luol Deng, Daniel Ewing an Shelden Williams

He's averaged 26.3 minutes per game in 560 NBA games (with 310 games starts) so it's fair to say he's a rotational player and has probably been the 5th option or worse on all the NBA teams he's played for since his career average is only 6.8 points per game.

spolgar · Post #166 » by **spolgar** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:47 am

Oh, and if he blows up, Josh Selby.

Zubby · Post #167 » by **Zubby** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:20 pm

spolgar wrote:Z3Snap, I have someone in mind.

Jacque Vaughn was the fourth scoring option behind Lafrentz, Scot Pollard, Paul Pierce. He played backup for the Spurs for a few years.

And there is Billy Thomas

PLEASE MSG ME ADDRESS FOR DESTINATION OF COOKIES!

Billy Thomas & Josh Shelby(even tho he was a Freshman, and would of had a bigger role if he stayed)

Edit: Shelby was after the 24 hour deadline... so no future cookies in the event Shelby wakes up.

For these picks, they are close... but not quite there. You get NO Cookie.

Cookies are never given, they are earned.
Close is not good enough.

Vaughn was not a 5th option/5th best player so no cookie.
Also I assume you are a KU fan, and KU wins a lot, meanwhile my Buckeye don't win sh*t = NO cookies for KU fan!

texasholdem wrote:Chris Duhon freshman year at Duke - 6th option behind Jay Williams, Battier, Dunleavy, Boozer and Nate James

Chris Duhon sophomore year at Duke - 5th option behind Jay Williams, Boozer, Dunleavy and Dahntay Jones

Chris Duhon junior year at Duke - 4th option behind D.Jones, JJ Redick and Daniel Ewing

Chris Duhon senior year at Duke - 5th option behind Redick, Luol Deng, Daniel Ewing an Shelden Williams

He's averaged 26.3 minutes per game in 560 NBA games (with 310 games starts) so it's fair to say he's a rotational player and has probably been the 5th option or worse on all the NBA teams he's played for since his career average is only 6.8 points per game.

Duhon(like Kendall Marshall) played more minutes then pretty all those guys mentioned... even as an underclassmen... even started majority of his freshman year.
Duhon is the all-time leader in minutes at Duke!
Also in steal, 2nd in assist.
Duhon was a POY candidate.

Duhon/Marshall controlled the ball 90% of the time... and were involved in pretty every single play/possession.

Neither guy was the 5th best player or the 5th option on their team. Both had the green light given to them by their coaches.

Its like saying Kidd wasn't the 1st option on those NJ teams cause he didnt lead the team in scoring or FGA.
Or Nash in PHX...
Was Nash really the 5th option cause Amare, Marion, JJ, & Richarson took more FGA? or cause Nash was the 4th leading scorer?
How the hell did he win the MVP!

Post #168 » by **jwise44** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:18 pm

When will we find out who all is coming to training camp? Early or mid August right?

We better not cut machado

Post #169 » by **Mr. E** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:36 pm

As of acquiring Asik, how do you like this roster?

PG - Lin / Machado / Douglas
SG - Martin / Lamb / Draagic
SF - Parsons / Morris? / White?
PF - Patterson / Motiejunas / Jones?
C - Asik / Smith? / Harrelson?

Post #170 » by **jwise44** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:32 pm

Trade Martin for a poorly protected pick and I LOVE that lineup

also I would play harrellson over smith. Jorts showed he could rebound and wont back down against pros, Smith just proved he can look like Britney griners effeminate brother

Wish we could make more room for jones and white to play

It's hard cuz I like all the pfs we have left (Morris isn't a pf) hopefully jones or white can back up parsons some

Post #171 » by **Mr. E** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:39 pm

Does Chicago still have that Bobcats pick? That would be a nice trade deadline target for Martin.

Guy986 · Post #172 » by **Guy986** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:22 pm

Mr. E wrote:As of acquiring Asik, how do you like this roster?

PG - Lin / Machado / Douglas
SG - Martin / Lamb / Draagic
SF - Parsons / Morris? / White?
PF - Patterson / Motiejunas / Jones?
C - Asik / Smith? / Harrelson?

33 win team but it would be fun to watch our young guys grow.

Martin please gtfo.

Post #173 » by **Mr. E** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:24 pm

I forgot that we had Duhon, too.

Damn....how many guys do we have now? :lol:

EDIT - I'm an idiot, of couse we don't.

Post #174 » by **Mr. E** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:26 pm

Guy986 wrote:33 win team but it would be fun to watch our young guys grow.

Martin please gtfo.

If this is the team we go to bat with then I will enjoy watching them. I can see not many casual fans getting excited (unless Lin draws as an attraction).

My thoughts on Martin is that he won't finish the season with Houston, but he'll start it here. We should all be cheering for him to be healthy and play at his best to get that value back up!

Kal El · Post #175 » by **Kal El** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:49 am

Mr. E wrote:As of acquiring Asik, how do you like this roster?

PG - Lin / Machado / Douglas
SG - Martin / Lamb / Draagic
SF - Parsons / Morris? / White?
PF - Patterson / Motiejunas / Jones?
C - Asik / Smith? / Harrelson?

looks good to me. Except trade Martin, White ahead of Morris and i don't see any other player in rotation at center. I think White and Jones gets minutes between 3 and 4 and patterson gets minutes between 4 and 5. Should be fun to watch how everybody develops.

inquisitive · Post #176 » by **inquisitive** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:19 am

Danny Chau:

On the court, Jeremy Lamb has three (and only three) expressions: when a fellow Rocket fails to make the correct defensive rotation, Lamb flashes a look of disgust, same when the whistle blows against him; when he flashes down the lane hoping for a pass, his eyes, normally glazed over, bulge like an owl’s; then there’s every other moment where Lamb has the look of the Buddha – complete and utter nothingness.

It would be artful to make observations about how Lamb’s demeanor on the court belies the intensity he plays the game with. I’d imagine it to be true. For all of Lamb’s lack of definition in interviews, his game is full of nuance, language. After the game, he’ll plainly tell you what he did. During the game, it’s all metaphors and Bible verses and dream interpretations. Basketball is the profession, the joy, the expressive force. Because when you spend your entire life in the basketball circuit, it’s probably a lot easier to express yourself with the familiar rhythms of a bouncing ball than it is with words and awkward pauses.

rocketsballin · Post #177 » by **rocketsballin** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:28 am

kinda like me, im not that great with job interviews, but when they see me work my ass off they know they hired the right mug

texasholdem · Post #178 » by **texasholdem** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:37 am

ugh Lin and Lamb will be quoting bible verses at one another.

Zki41 · Post #179 » by **Zki41** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:59 am

Mr. E wrote:As of acquiring Asik, how do you like this roster?

PG - Lin / Machado / Douglas
SG - Martin / Lamb / Draagic
SF - Parsons / Morris? / White?
PF - Patterson / Motiejunas / Jones?
C - Asik / Smith? / Harrelson?

I would assume that Motiejunas would start over Patterson?

Also do you think that Martin would be slotted in as sixth man in order to allow Lamb playing time and room to develop? It's obvious that Martin is going to be traded and isn't part of the future, so I feel because of his offense a sixth man role might be more appropriate?

rocketsballin · Post #180 » by **rocketsballin** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:13 am

if the rockets wanna be real tankers, they'd deactivate martin till he's traded

i bet he's pissed if he stays on this team. see what happens when you dont nurse your sore vagina? nobody wants you on their team, even with that phat expiring contract. i still have a hard time believing this. offseason aint over tho. if he's traded for a pick, its gotta be a top 10 at least, without all that protection crap