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TheLastDon wrote:T-Cat wrote:VGOSWAMI wrote:[quote]Tom Kessenich @TomKessenich
The #Bucks also following JJ Reddick, Hedo Turkoglu, Chris Duhon & Glen Davis. Either something's afoot or it's Random NBA Follow Day at BC.
Speculators, speculate!
Book it!
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TheLastDon wrote:T-Cat wrote:VGOSWAMI wrote:Speculators, speculate!
Book it!
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I'll do that deal RIGHT NOW... Who DISAGREES???
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Bensational wrote:The biggest thing about resigning Jameer for me is it makes me wonder what Hennigan's take on the market for PGs is. He obviously didn't see any young PGs this summer he felt would be better options to sign. Given the length of the deal, it makes me think there isn't someone on his radar for the next 2 seasons at least as a free agent either.
MagicTownBaller wrote:In regards to Jameer's contract, we needed a PG and he is an experienced one, he also wants to be here and is a leader.
I think people are forgetting how well he played after Dwight went down with the back injury. Him and Big Baby held the team together.
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thelead wrote:That's fine, but he overpaid. WAY overpaid. I'm not a Jeremy Lin fan but I would rather have him on his deal considering the upside. Jameer is 30 making nearly 9 mil on a team focused on making the lottery...
T-Cat wrote:Why doesn't Hennigan and RDV go all in for this year with Dwight? If that means acquiring extra salary to obtain a star player in Ellis/JSmoove (especially since they are FA's to be) so be it!
I honestly believed we could have gotten very far in the playoffs last season if D12 were healthy and everyone else play their roles a bit better!
BelgianMagic wrote:All those "better PGs than Jameer" who signed for less, all signed with playoff teams, most even with contending teams. We're not gonna contend anytime soon, there's no way those guys would've signed the same contracts with a team on its way to the worst record in the league.
I haven't been Jameer's biggest fan, I've always believed he'd be a better 6th man on a contending team than a starter, but Jameer wants to be here, he's a great leader and I'm happy we re-signed him.
Coach_McGuirk wrote:I wonder if we signed Jameer in anticipation of shipping out bad contracts and needing to hit the salary minimum the next few years and in the end we have a nice expiring contract?
He brings great leadership and can mentor the young guys.
Coach_McGuirk wrote:I wonder if we signed Jameer in anticipation of shipping out bad contracts and needing to hit the salary minimum the next few years and in the end we have a nice expiring contract?
He brings great leadership and can mentor the young guys.
thelead wrote:Coach_McGuirk wrote:I wonder if we signed Jameer in anticipation of shipping out bad contracts and needing to hit the salary minimum the next few years and in the end we have a nice expiring contract?
He brings great leadership and can mentor the young guys.
That is a really bad reason to sign a bad contract. You could have easily overpaid someone on a 1 year deal if it came to that in the next few years. We're now handcuffed with Jameer's contract.
dsg2021 wrote:Do people not understand the concept of cap space?
We had no legit cap space, ergo, we could not offer anything above ~3mil to any PG FA's.
There is also a cap floor that is higher than the previous CBA. That means you have to make salaries add up in future years and if you're rebuilding you don't want to dole out anything longer than 1-2 yrs, which ergo, reduces your FA pull to quality players. If we're rebuilding, would you take Jameer on for 2 seasons or total scrubs with more questionable team mentalities for every 1 year increment; not to mention the ensuing total lack of value in trades except as expiring only, Jameer would be quite valuable on his 2/3rd years and not just for some type of expiring (teams with interest in Jameer this summer also included Lal, nyk).
Jameer Nelson is only on 2 years of garantueed money. This is better than I imagined from a strategizer point. I would've given him a lowball type offer like we all wanted but nothing is as easy as that when it comes to true UFA, aka, they can sign anywhere and have the market setting the price, and sometimes the price is not the problem, it's the fact the player can leave altogether and you're stuck with no cap space. Had we given Jameer a lowball contract, I would've been 3-5 years of fully garantueed money as opposed to the just 2 he got now.
Finally, and I think Hennigan didnt even make this a big factor in re-signing but I think a 2 yr contract with a 3rd mostly ungarantueed is nothing to complain about, and instead it's a great signing. Jameer is the captain of this team, has played here his whole career, and has a common expression among many Magic fans, "When Jameer gets going, the whole team is dangerous.." Show some loyalty as fans for god sakes. Hennigan, who's not even an incumbent Magic member, seemed to appreciate this all with Nelson too and would value his contract strategically for his team culture for these 2 seasons of garantueed money.
dsg2021 wrote:Do people not understand the concept of cap space?
We had no legit cap space, ergo, we could not offer anything above ~3mil to any PG FA's.
There is also a cap floor that is higher than the previous CBA. That means you have to make salaries add up in future years and if you're rebuilding you don't want to dole out anything longer than 1-2 yrs, which ergo, reduces your FA pull to quality players. If we're rebuilding, would you take Jameer on for 2 seasons or total scrubs with more questionable team mentalities for every 1 year increment; not to mention the ensuing total lack of value in trades except as expiring only, Jameer would be quite valuable on his 2/3rd years and not just for some type of expiring (teams with interest in Jameer this summer also included Lal, nyk).
Jameer Nelson is only on 2 years of garantueed money. This is better than I imagined from a strategizer point. I would've given him a lowball type offer like we all wanted but nothing is as easy as that when it comes to true UFA, aka, they can sign anywhere and have the market setting the price, and sometimes the price is not the problem, it's the fact the player can leave altogether and you're stuck with no cap space. Had we given Jameer a lowball contract, I would've been 3-5 years of fully garantueed money as opposed to the just 2 he got now.
Finally, and I think Hennigan didnt even make this a big factor in re-signing but I think a 2 yr contract with a 3rd mostly ungarantueed is nothing to complain about, and instead it's a great signing. Jameer is the captain of this team, has played here his whole career, and has a common expression among many Magic fans, "When Jameer gets going, the whole team is dangerous.." Show some loyalty as fans for god sakes. Hennigan, who's not even an incumbent Magic member, seemed to appreciate this all with Nelson too and would value his contract strategically for his team culture for these 2 seasons of garantueed money.
