Price will not return

n_s_s31 · Post #1 » by **n_s_s31** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 4:35 pm

Nothing shocking or particularly ground breaking but this does give us just a little bit more cap space without his cap hold. Is this a sign that we are clearing a little more room to match Hibbert? Or is it in preparation for some other moves, i.e Elton Brand?

Like I said this isn't a particularly big move but it could tell us a little bit about what our team is trying to do in the coming weeks.

Wizop · Post #2 » by **Wizop** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 5:20 pm

probably just a courtesy to a player that doesn't fit into our plans. we'll have a better idea after we see a few summer league games.

SmashMouthRod · Post #3 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 5:37 pm

I think he was renounced because the team would need to clear a roster spot to sign Mayo or Lee or any free agent for that matter. I would have rather let go of Dahntay Jones considering the team has Johnson and Stephenson. I liked Price as a player. He filled in nicely whenever called upon. And considering he was playing on a vet minimum like contract; he was definitely worth every penny. A shooter like him will land on another team quickly. I think he was a great locker room guy too; I think Indy will miss Price and may come to regret letting him leave if he goes elsewhere and displays abilities that he was never really given the opportunity to display.

granger05 · Post #4 » by **granger05** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 5:47 pm

The title is a bit misleading because we've renounced our rights to him, but it doesn't mean we couldn't re-sign him. One probably leads to the other but there's still a possibility that Price comes back on another deal after we've done whatever we're planning to do with this extra bit of cap space.

n_s_s31 · Post #5 » by **n_s_s31** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:32 pm

Sorry about the misleading title. My thinking was that since we renounced his rights we are planning on being close to or a little over the cap when we are done making moves, and since we no longer have his bird rights I assume that he will not return. You are right though, I guess he could still theoretically return.

Wizop · Post #6 » by **Wizop** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:21 am

I don't think a player can return after a renunciation unless a certain amount of time passes. as to why we didn't renounce Dahntay, it's because he has a player option while AJ had either a team option or a non-guaranteed contract. we'd have to eat Dahntay's contract to get that roster spot unless he waives his option. amnesty isn't a possibility because we used that chip last year.

jnzook · Post #7 » by **jnzook** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:27 am

i liked price. he did what we asked of him and had good morale. he will get picked up by someone. i wish him the best

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:30 am

Probably a confidence statement in Lance as a 3rd PG more than anything. Otherwise, AJ was likely to go elsewhere anyway, as we were unlikely to match an offer to him.

Wizop · Post #9 » by **Wizop** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:33 am

I think OJ can play some point in a pinch too.

Boneman2 · Post #10 » by **Boneman2** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:18 am

OJ might get some burn, but not as a 1. That was Lance setting him up tonight.

You've got to figure Scoot is right in that team officials are comfortable with Lance as our emergency 1 or 2. Although, OJ might have something to say about that 2 spot. It's ironic that Lance might screw himself at the 2, just to prove he is a 1.

I think Lance has more pg abilities than a lot of these 6'2"/6'3" combo guards around the league forced to play the 1.

chube · Post #11 » by **chube** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:59 pm

AJ got some heat on this board and others, but I liked him. He was very serviceable and filled in pretty nicely when called upon the past couple years. Since Lance can play the 1 if need be, this makes sense in terms of combining Lance's duties and making way for a backup 2 (if we don't turn to Orlando Johnson for that) or a backup 3 or whatever.

On a related note, I would love to try and get Sonny Weems as a backup 3. Played pretty well in Toronto in the season before the lockout and could be had pretty cheap coming back from overseas. If we could get Sonny as a reserve 3, hopefully we could package Dahntay and AJ in a trade or something.

Post #12 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:42 pm

Renouncing our rights to AJ Price only saved us about $500,000 against the cap. I doubt that we ultimately renounced him for this little value, or the roster space (there are no roster limits in the summer).

Ultimately, it seems we just didn't see a spot for AJ on the roster and wanted to allow him to move him. Sometimes, free agents just don't garner any interest if they are restricted. No one wants to deal with negotiating a long, drawn out contract for little money with an end of the bench free agent and then just see it matched asap. Probably a courtesy.

granger05 · Post #13 » by **granger05** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:46 pm

Price joins the Wizards according to wiretap.

Price, who spent the past three seasons with the Pacers, will serve as John Wall's backup at point guard.

The only other non-John Wall PG on their roster is Shelvin Mack so it looks like Price is likely going to a situation where he'll get a bit more burn. Good for him. He wasn't a great player, but he conducted himself like a pro and was a good guy for the locker room which Washington seems to need. Good for him.

Wizop · Post #14 » by **Wizop** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:02 pm

glad he found a home. I always thought he was better than he got credit for being. I know O'B never thought he was NBA quality but OB was tough for young players to please. only downside here is that he'll be competing for PT with a Butler kid.

FAH1223 · Post #15 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:00 pm

We on the Wizards board look at him as Shelvin Mack with more experience. But his numbers seem to indicate he has gotten worse each year. Pacers fans... can this guy play 10 minutes a night for Wall?

Sidenote: We all hate Ernie Grunfeld and every move he has made for the last couple years has us all thinking each and every move is horrible because EG is a horrible GM.

Wizop · Post #16 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:05 pm

He's not Mack at all. Mack is much more physical and played in a college system where everyone touched the ball and everyone defended hard. whether he has the court vision to be an NBA point guard is undecided. the great ones have extraordinary peripheral vision.

AJ is a point guard. he didn't get a lot of minutes here but no one groaned when he did. how well he does probably depends upon how well his skills fit with your system.

I don't see any reason to be that hard on Grunfeld but I don't study every move other teams make. I think Nene is overpaid. McGee needed to be moved. I like Seraphin. actually I liked McGee too on the court until he started talking like he was much better than I'd seen. looks like you cleared a lot of overhead and should have the cap in control when Okefor's contract expires. I don't know how many wins Vegas is projecting for you, but were I to bet, I'd take the over.

truwizfan4evr · Post #17 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:31 pm

What can you guys tell me about A.J price?

Post #18 » by **Jake0890** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:49 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Sidenote: We all hate Ernie Grunfeld and every move he has made for the last couple years has us all thinking each and every move is horrible because EG is a horrible GM.

Like getting two heavily overpaid players in Okafor and Ariza?

He is a horrible GM, I agree.