Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Barton.

[King d]

Lillard was the fastest guy I saw in Summer League

I saw otherwise, and even if he was the fastest in the SL he's far from being as fast as Rondo, Rose or Paul let alone Deron Williams. We'll be lucky if he makes a good 8th man, frankly I think some people get more upset with Lillard than Felton considering how often he turns the ball over (at least judging by summer league.;.).

Stop being a hater dude, we already got you don't like the guy. But every post I see from you is bashing the kid for no reason

[LOOSH]

Oden2, no offense but you have not a clue what you're looking at out there. Lillard is an efficient PG, he had one game of bad TO game in summer league, and summer league is a turnover festival. Last year he led the entire country in efficiency. Beyond that, to call him slow is just ... asinine.

[LOOSH]

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
PHX coach Alvin Gentry says Elston Turner could be the right fit for the Blazers because Turner has been around Steve Nash the last 2 years

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
"After watching that kid Lillard run the screen-&-roll, what better guy to have around than a guy who coached Steve Nash?'' Gentry said.

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
By the way, Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry gushed about Blazers rookie PG Damian Lillard. "That kid is going to be great,'' Gentry said.

[d-train]

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
By the way, Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry gushed about Blazers rookie PG Damian Lillard. "That kid is going to be great,'' Gentry said.

This is encouraging.

[fishnc]

It's a nice sentiment, but to me it just sounds like Gentry trying to get his guy a head coaching opportunity.

[lucky strike]

Lillard was the fastest guy I saw in Summer League

I saw otherwise, and even if he was the fastest in the SL he's far from being as fast as Rondo, Rose or Paul let alone Deron Williams. We'll be lucky if he makes a good 8th man, frankly I think some people get more upset with Lillard than Felton considering how often he turns the ball over (at least judging by summer league.;.).

If you're trying to troll it's often more effective if you don't make it so obvious

[Shem]

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
By the way, Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry gushed about Blazers rookie PG Damian Lillard. "That kid is going to be great,'' Gentry said.

This is encouraging.

It's it interesting that you said this:

We have a lot riding on a rookie PG who is going to make fat Felton look like a 1st team All-NBA player.

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[Shem]

Here are the Top 10 plays from Summer League from NBA.com:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GtEM7tv5VY[/youtube]

Damian Lillard's dunk was #4.

[call.me.dude]

Here are the Top 10 plays from Summer League from NBA.com:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GtEM7tv5VY[/youtube]

Damian Lillard's dunk was #4.

Roye White:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGokcw1ajk[/youtube]

[PDXKnight]

Lillard was the fastest guy I saw in Summer League

I saw otherwise, and even if he was the fastest in the SL he's far from being as fast as Rondo, Rose or Paul let alone Deron Williams. We'll be lucky if he makes a good 8th man, frankly I think some people get more upset with Lillard than Felton considering how often he turns the ball over (at least judging by summer league.;.).

If you're trying to troll it's often more effective if you don't make it so obvious

I'm not a troll though I don't see the point of starting an argument so if it makes you feel better call me a troll for your own sake, though I would say I look more like inspector gadget than a troll considering that I'm a bit lengthy.

[PDXKnight]

Lillard was the fastest guy I saw in Summer League

I saw otherwise, and even if he was the fastest in the SL he's far from being as fast as Rondo, Rose or Paul let alone Deron Williams. We'll be lucky if he makes a good 8th man, frankly I think some people get more upset with Lillard than Felton considering how often he turns the ball over (at least judging by summer league.;.).

Stop being a hater dude, we already got you don't like the guy. But every post I see from you is bashing the kid for no reason

It is hardly no reason when I feel that I have valid concerns about Lillard. I'm starting to know what D-train must feel like at times.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Lillard is a good athlete, not an elite athlete, but still a far cry from "slow".

He will certainly have to use his shooting and "change of speed" savvy to make up for that extra gear, but I think it quite likely he is better than an 8th man. I think he ends up an overall average starting PG. Which is better than I used to think about him, but he showed enough ability to manage a team in SL that I think he will translate.

[Shem]

Damian Lillard, Then Everyone Else: Ranking The 52 Rookies At Summer League
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/7/23/3 ... an-lillard

For one thing, he already has an incredible sense of timing on the court. Most young point guards play at one speed because that's all they've needed to dominate their lower levels. Lillard, though, has already figured out how to shift rapidly from second gear to sixth gear, keeping his knees bent and his dribble low at all times so he can explode at any time.

He's a score-first player, but he never forces drives. He got trapped often in Vegas, in particular against the Denver Nuggets, but instead of dribbling too quickly to one spot on the court or getting rattled, he held off the trap with his quickness and patiently waited for just the right opening when his teammate would be open and in rhythm to fire. Some players take a decade to master that art. Lillard, despite being more of a scoring point guard, already has it down.

It's also amazing to see just how well he finishes against the trees. There are two reasons for this, and both of them are incredible given his age and experience against high-level competition in college. For one, not only is he capable jumping off one foot and off two feet, but he knows when to do each. He understands when he needs to use the one-foot jump to take advantage of a quick opening that will soon close, and he also understands when he needs the momentum of both feet to power through defenders and avoid the shot block. For another, his upper body strength is well-developed, allowing him to keep his attention on the rim even as his shoulders are being battered. His body control in the air reminds me of a young Gilbert Arenas.

And there is much more in the article.

[mojomarc]

Let's not be going around accusing people of trolling for stating opinions you don't like. The mods will take care of real trolling. Thanks!

[sabi]

Its really annoying that some blazer posters are this stubborn and keep posting all this crap. everyone who actually saw lillard in al including media, scouts, and other real gm members have nothing but positive things say as he was clearly head and shoulders above everybody else. as blazer fans we have every reason to be excited. to those fans whose mentality is deron Williams or bust then keep living that fantasy or simply go be a fan of one of the big markets so you can be happy. but spreading that negativity to out board without any actual analysis that can be discussed is just really really annoying.

If you have something negative to say then back it up because if not its just a scrappy opinion not worth reading.

[lucky strike]

I saw otherwise, and even if he was the fastest in the SL he's far from being as fast as Rondo, Rose or Paul let alone Deron Williams. We'll be lucky if he makes a good 8th man, frankly I think some people get more upset with Lillard than Felton considering how often he turns the ball over (at least judging by summer league.;.).

Stop being a hater dude, we already got you don't like the guy. But every post I see from you is bashing the kid for no reason

It is hardly no reason when I feel that I have valid concerns about Lillard. I'm starting to know what D-train must feel like at times.

Your reasons are that you think he's too slow to be good and that he's a turnover machine and that we'll be lucky if he is the 8th best player on our team. If we have to be lucky for him to be that "good' then it stands to reason that you think he'll likely be the 10th or so best player which given what most 10th best players are capable of you feel that by the end of the season he'll be racking up DNP's due to sucking so bad.

Given what's been written about him by all the nba writers, gm's, scouts, etc and how virtually none of that jives with your opinion I just assumed you were trolling. But if that's your honest opinion on him then I apologize for calling you a troll. I now just think your opinion is extremely misguided.

[sabi]

Oden2 you could've had fresh crow a couple of weeks ago. You are way beyond that now you get stincky fermented crow now.

[mojomarc]

Oden2 you could've had fresh crow a couple of weeks ago. You are way beyond that now you get stincky fermented crow now.

What did this comment really add to the conversation? Please refrain from personal attacks. Thanks!

[PDXKnight]

Oden2 you could've had fresh crow a couple of weeks ago. You are way beyond that now you get stincky fermented crow now.

I choose squirrel!

[PDXKnight]

Stop being a hater dude, we already got you don't like the guy. But every post I see from you is bashing the kid for no reason

It is hardly no reason when I feel that I have valid concerns about Lillard. I'm starting to know what D-train must feel like at times.

Your reasons are that you think he's too slow to be good and that he's a turnover machine and that we'll be lucky if he is the 8th best player on our team. If we have to be lucky for him to be that "good' then it stands to reason that you think he'll likely be the 10th or so best player which given what most 10th best players are capable of you feel that by the end of the season he'll be racking up DNP's due to sucking so bad.

Given what's been written about him by all the nba writers, gm's, scouts, etc and how virtually none of that jives with your opinion I just assumed you were trolling. But if that's your honest opinion on him then I apologize for calling you a troll. I now just think your opinion is extremely misguided.

All is a strong word, and I'm betting if either of us had the chance to talk to every single scout and sports writer we'd find plenty of people who see things differently. The way I see it a lot of people are high off of Lillard's vegas games which is understandable. I just still wonder if they could've gotten away with moving down 2 conditional on Toronto not drafting Lillard, pick up an asset along the way, and wind up better than they would have with lillard at 6. I can understand the pick and why many like it, and I'm sure I get called out for not being 100 percent sold on it if Lillard turns out well. Just a hint though, reverse psychology can be effective sometimes.