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Re: A SIGNING HAPPENED!!!!!!! 

Post#181 » by pillwenney » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:40 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:BS, depends on what you consider a "star" but I can count 30 teams feeling their team has at least one star on it, and realistically every team does. Now getting into league wide standing as an All star or ever better yet a superstar is different. As for "stars", yeah 30 teams feel like they've got that checked I'd bet.

Still want to see Reke/Thornton/Cousins under the right situation and in the right system, and truthfully, if that's your core it needs to work because if not it needs to be changed. This team didn't work last year, not just Reke, not any one player, that was the coach I've been telling everybody they needed to dive bomb into extinction for more than a year. Sad thing is he had some of the right ideas on how this team should play, problem is he didn't know how to implement them nor did he have any rope left to hang himself with as far as the players were concerned. It's one thing if one or two players were playing poorly, but not an entire team.


Then that's an incredibly loose definition of what a star is. I would define a star as a guy that is an all-star caliber player. Tyreke is not. He has the potential to become that and more, but with the player he is right now, no. He's not a star.
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Post#182 » by SacKingZZZ » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:57 am

Hmmmm....I consider an All star caliber an All star.
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Post#183 » by pillwenney » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:10 pm

I'd consider them to be close to the same thing. But not a guy who averages like 16/5 on mediocre efficiency.
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Post#184 » by YC42Balla » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:18 am

This is just my opinion, but here's how I see it:

Stars: Kevin Marin, Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Monte Ellis, Nicolas Batum, Andrea Bargani, so on...

All-Stars: Chris Bosh, Iggy, Josh Smith, Love, Rondo, so on...

Superstars: LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight, so on...

Also, you could even separate the perennial all-stars from the all-stars, because in my opinion, some all-stars aren't exactly super-stars, however, they are more prominent athletes than other all-stars... like, Westbrook -- he's way better than Chris Bosh, IMO. So, I mean, it just depends. That's just me, though.
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Re: A SIGNING HAPPENED!!!!!!! 

Post#185 » by tru6playa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:02 am

YC42Balla wrote:This is just my opinion, but here's how I see it:

Stars: Kevin Marin, Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Monte Ellis, Nicolas Batum, Andrea Bargani, so on...

All-Stars: Chris Bosh, Iggy, Josh Smith, Love, Rondo, so on...

Superstars: LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight, so on...

Also, you could even separate the perennial all-stars from the all-stars, because in my opinion, some all-stars aren't exactly super-stars, however, they are more prominent athletes than other all-stars... like, Westbrook -- he's way better than Chris Bosh, IMO. So, I mean, it just depends. That's just me, though.


Melo a superstar? Gah!!

Tier #1 LeBron/Kobe/Durant

Tier #2 Howard/Wade/Rose/CP3/Rondo

Tier #3 Melo/Bosh/Love

Tie #4 Gasol/Iggy/Bynum (maybe Tier 3?)/Josh Smith
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Re: A SIGNING HAPPENED!!!!!!! 

Post#186 » by deNIEd » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 am

tru6playa wrote:
YC42Balla wrote:This is just my opinion, but here's how I see it:

Stars: Kevin Marin, Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Monte Ellis, Nicolas Batum, Andrea Bargani, so on...

All-Stars: Chris Bosh, Iggy, Josh Smith, Love, Rondo, so on...

Superstars: LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight, so on...

Also, you could even separate the perennial all-stars from the all-stars, because in my opinion, some all-stars aren't exactly super-stars, however, they are more prominent athletes than other all-stars... like, Westbrook -- he's way better than Chris Bosh, IMO. So, I mean, it just depends. That's just me, though.


Melo a superstar? Gah!!

Tier #1 LeBron/Kobe/Durant

Tier #2 Howard/Wade/Rose/CP3/Rondo

Tier #3 Melo/Bosh/Love

Tie #4 Gasol/Iggy/Bynum (maybe Tier 3?)/Josh Smith


IF Melo is Tier 3 and Bynum isTier 4...then at best Sacramento will have a Tier 4 player in Cousins and a bunch of Tier 6 & 7 players. Things do not look good then.
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Re: A SIGNING HAPPENED!!!!!!! 

Post#187 » by YC42Balla » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:33 am

tru6playa wrote:
YC42Balla wrote:This is just my opinion, but here's how I see it:

Stars: Kevin Marin, Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Monte Ellis, Nicolas Batum, Andrea Bargani, so on...

All-Stars: Chris Bosh, Iggy, Josh Smith, Love, Rondo, so on...

Superstars: LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Melo, Dwight, so on...

Also, you could even separate the perennial all-stars from the all-stars, because in my opinion, some all-stars aren't exactly super-stars, however, they are more prominent athletes than other all-stars... like, Westbrook -- he's way better than Chris Bosh, IMO. So, I mean, it just depends. That's just me, though.


Melo a superstar? Gah!!

Tier #1 LeBron/Kobe/Durant

Tier #2 Howard/Wade/Rose/CP3/Rondo

Tier #3 Melo/Bosh/Love

Tie #4 Gasol/Iggy/Bynum (maybe Tier 3?)/Josh Smith


I was using the "Buzzerbeater" format, haha! I don't look at basketball the same way, anymore.

Understandable -- The knicks barley made the playoffs, and they had a losing record with Melo in the starting line-up; However, Melo really impressed me during the Olympics... he can play the three, or four spot, and his defense isn't bad, either. He defended Scola well in the USA Vs. Argentina game. Also, he was shooting the three ball at a high %. I feel like he's going to be a much improved player this upcoming NBA season.
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