Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLII Off-Season Edition)

[Just Plain Mark]

I've been on the be patient bandwagon...but even Im starting to wonder what the hold up is.

2 issues are holding things up

1. Rob still wanted to work on changing Dwight's mind. Call it foolish or shortsighted, but I really don't see the downside. Everything that's come out of this last meeting has been either the same as before or slightly better (he's willing to go to LA).

2. Crappy trade offers. As much as I think Rob wanted another shot at changing Dwight's mind, I think a deal would have been done if it was good. Come on, Anderson Verajao and a 1st round draft pick from the Kings that could end up as a 2nd rounder or no pick at all? Brook Lopez for the max? This is as much as Rob has said - he'll make a trade that's good for the team. We can judge him when a trade does occur, but I can't see filling in the information gaps when the reports have been so inaccurate (Bucher at ESPN, Woj at Yahoo, Broussard at ESPN and Alex Kennedy) or biased (J. Rudolph).

[ChildishGambino]

Well one thing i think for certain is if Dwight really does want to go to LA then there isn't room for 2 dominant centers on that team plus Gasol....so maybe the avenue is going to be that 3 team deal with LA/Hou/Orl...everyone seemingly gets what they want.....Dwight gets LA.....Houston gets an All-Star in Bynum to pair with Lin......We get out of Dwightmare with all the fixin's......question is how do we get from here to that point?

[darthkiller]

Well one thing i think for certain is if Dwight really does want to go to LA then there isn't room for 2 dominant centers on that team plus Gasol....so maybe the avenue is going to be that 3 team deal with LA/Hou/Orl...everyone seemingly gets what they want.....Dwight gets LA.....Houston gets an All-Star in Bynum to pair with Lin......We get out of Dwightmare with all the fixin's......question is how do we get from here to that point?

why not just trade Dwight for lebron and wade while you at it. also ask for a billion first round picks

[DMack78]

Well one thing i think for certain is if Dwight really does want to go to LA then there isn't room for 2 dominant centers on that team plus Gasol....so maybe the avenue is going to be that 3 team deal with LA/Hou/Orl...everyone seemingly gets what they want.....Dwight gets LA.....Houston gets an All-Star in Bynum to pair with Lin......We get out of Dwightmare with all the fixin's......question is how do we get from here to that point?

why not just trade Dwight for lebron and wade while you at it. also ask for a billion first round picks

LOL now thats a trade everyone would be on board with..............well everyone outside of Miami.

[BN]

I've been on the be patient bandwagon...but even Im starting to wonder what the hold up is.

2 issues are holding things up

1. Rob still wanted to work on changing Dwight's mind. Call it foolish or shortsighted, but I really don't see the downside. Everything that's come out of this last meeting has been either the same as before or slightly better (he's willing to go to LA).

2. Crappy trade offers. As much as I think Rob wanted another shot at changing Dwight's mind, I think a deal would have been done if it was good. Come on, Anderson Verajao and a 1st round draft pick from the Kings that could end up as a 2nd rounder or no pick at all? Brook Lopez for the max? This is as much as Rob has said - he'll make a trade that's good for the team. We can judge him when a trade does occur, but I can't see filling in the information gaps when the reports have been so inaccurate (Bucher at ESPN, Woj at Yahoo, Broussard at ESPN and Alex Kennedy) or biased (J. Rudolph).

At this rate, a few more henmeets and Dwight should theoretically commit with the Rockets

[OOO]

Well one thing i think for certain is if Dwight really does want to go to LA then there isn't room for 2 dominant centers on that team plus Gasol....so maybe the avenue is going to be that 3 team deal with LA/Hou/Orl...everyone seemingly gets what they want.....Dwight gets LA.....Houston gets an All-Star in Bynum to pair with Lin......We get out of Dwightmare with all the fixin's......question is how do we get from here to that point?

For start Hennigan needs to stop pi.ssing everyone off with his indecision. I think Houston will be more open to Bynum since Dwight says there's no way in hell that he will resign with them. Lakers though PO will obviously get over it to get the best center in the league. I think we can still get a pretty good package but won't be able to send out as many bad contracts. I could see the framework somewhat similar to this.

Orlando receives: Martin, Donatas, Jones, Ebanks, McRoberts, and multiple picks.

LA receives: Dwight, Richardson

Houston receives: Bynum, Duhon

[Just Plain Mark]

It could also be that RDV was the one who really wanted the meetings with Dwight. RDV is sort of an old school guy and I'm wondering if he thinks Dwight can be persuaded under the "you're still under contract and we'll try real hard if you come back" theory.

Regardless, I just don't see the reason for all the pearl clutching after this last meeting when nothing has changed.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

[Nyce_1]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

I'd welcome that deal.

[Skin]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

I really don't want to see Howard in LA. But if we get a damn good package from HOU, then that'll be acceptable.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

I'd welcome that deal.

I think is the best we could get in a hurry...

[ThatFloridaDude]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

Probably the best deal I've seen since joining last month.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Lineup:

DM/Ayon/Kyle
BBD/Drew/Harper
Hedo/Ebankz
Lamb/JJ/Liggins
Nelson/?/? <- maybe J-flynn

[LarsV8]

So let me get this straight, your rookies are so valuable that you wouldn't give up more than one for arguably the second best player on the planet but at the same time your rookies suck enough for you to be in position to get the number 1 pick. Did I read this correctly?

Pretty much, yes.

Just about every rookie, even superstars, does not have a huge amount of team success in thier first year.

[MagicTownBaller]

Ugh, Dwightmare is frustrating. Good thing I have my 360.

[Mule Tears]

LOL...ESPN anchor just said Tim Hennigan flew out to LA to meet with Dwight. Bunch of retards man..

[timgator]

So let me get this straight, your rookies are so valuable that you wouldn't give up more than one for arguably the second best player on the planet but at the same time your rookies suck enough for you to be in position to get the number 1 pick. Did I read this correctly?

Pretty much, yes.

Just about every rookie, even superstars, does not have a huge amount of team success in thier first year.

That's because rookies with superstar potential typically get drafted to the WORST teams in the league, and rookies who aren't projected to be very good at all typically go to the best teams in the league (i.e. teams with established starters). You couldn't figure this out for yourself?

[Skin]

LOL...ESPN anchor just said Tim Hennigan flew out to LA to meet with Dwight. Bunch of retards man..

Go Timmy, Go!

[arsenal6106]

Magic: DM, Lamb, Ebankz + 2 1st.

Lakers: Howard, Dudu

Houston: Bynum, JRich, McRobert

?

I really don't want to see Howard in LA. But if we get a damn good package from HOU, then that'll be acceptable.

I'm with you, but we're just going to have to suck it up. Sucks that we have no choice.

[LarsV8]

So let me get this straight, your rookies are so valuable that you wouldn't give up more than one for arguably the second best player on the planet but at the same time your rookies suck enough for you to be in position to get the number 1 pick. Did I read this correctly?

Pretty much, yes.

Just about every rookie, even superstars, does not have a huge amount of team success in thier first year.

That's because rookies with superstar potential typically get drafted to the WORST teams in the league, and rookies who aren't projected to be very good at all typically go to the best teams in the league (i.e. teams with established starters). You couldn't figure this out for yourself?

No, I understand Houston's position quite well. I was just trying to explain to someone why Houston would be hesitant to make a deadline move for Howard.

Also, the "thelead" took a very hard lined stance suggesting every player on a team that is in play for the #1 pick sucks, which is just ignorant. Charlotte, Sacramento, Washington, New Orleans, Cleveland were all in play for the #1 pick, but that doesn't mean Biyombo, Cousins, Wall, Gordon, and Irving are bad players.

This seems to have been lost on you, as you posted something completely irrelevant and then followed up with a snide statement, that frankly doesn't make much sense.