Seed the West

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Re: Seed the West 

Post#121 » by Mr Grant Hill » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:37 pm

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
Mr Grant Hill wrote:denver fans think they have something to contribute? lol. please just contribute your 7th seed expectations and leave. thx.


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Re: Seed the West 

Post#122 » by Br0ken_Sp0ke » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:39 pm

1. OKC
2. LAL
3. SAS
4. LAC
5. MEM
6. DEN
7. MIN
8. DAL

9. GSW
10. PHX
11.UTA
12. POR
13. HOU
14. NOH
15. SAC
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#123 » by CAE15 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Most general discussion about the Jazz since the finals days. 2004 jazz team was supposed to finish with the worst record of all time. Jazz weren't supposed to make playoffs last year. Its the same every year. No matter what utah does, people always underrate them. Added 3 point shooting which was our biggest need. Without losing anything. But we will be the 13th seed. Yup...alrighty..might as well call being anti jazz a religion..because you people will ignore logic.

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Re: Seed the West 

Post#124 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:44 pm

oh im still anti-jazz but lets be real about things. No chance in hell Minny wins more games than Utah barring major injury. And GSW? please. Phoenix? Never.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#125 » by Dual » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:53 pm

OKC
LAL
SAS
MEM
LAC
DAL
MIN
DEN
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#126 » by patrol345 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:01 pm

OKC
SAS
DEN
LAL
LAC
MEM
UTA
MIN

Out with the old in DAL. I just don't see a great front court or back court really, phx sorry beasely and wes minnys culls? Sorry not buying it.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#127 » by Johnny Firpo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:04 pm

Nuggets_Talk wrote:fair enough but you said "Also, that roster is definitely upgraded, i would even say it's better than our championship roster"

mav fans love to use that one.

you definitely are NOT implying this mav team can win a title in 2013 so my bad on that. :lol:


Yes, i'm definitely not implying, in fact, i even wrote why i'm not implying this, when i talked about chemistry, and synergy. I do think that this roster is more talented, and yet i do think they have little chance to duplicate that chemistry, and synergy, that the 2011 Mavs showed. But i already wrote all that, and yet, you didn't understand. Talent, doesn't necessarily correlates with being great. That Mavs team probably had GOAT-level chemistry, and had desperate veterans, who left everything on the court to finally win it all. This team obviously doesn't have that, despite (at lest in my opinion) being more talented.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#128 » by shadester76 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:13 pm

As of today.
1. OKC
2. LAL
3. SAS
4. LAC
5. DEN
6. MEM
7. DAL
8. MIN
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#129 » by Winsome Gerbil » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:16 pm

I'm actually predicting one of the old teams is going to fall out, and one of the young ones replace them this year. I just can't decide on who, so will wimp out and stick with this for the moment:

1. OKC-- fairly obvious choice.
2. LAL -- biggest competing choice
3. LAC -- added vets to patch many holes. As long as the vets have enough left.
4. SAS -- the choice made because there are no better ones. but another year older.
5. MEM -- only way they improved is if we finally get to see a full season of Gay + Zach)
6. DAL (added size/talent cheaply. when they play the Spurs front row replaced with crashcarts)
7. DEN (a stack of pretty good young players, if Karl wasn't the coach, I wouldn't be as confident)
8. MIN (have to stay healthy, but coach tips the scales here)

9. GSW (roster finally makes sense pending the annual Curry/Bogut injuries which will sink them back)
10. UTH (wasn't convinced by playoff appearance last year, but young and improving)
11. SAC (ton of young talent, a wildcard team if it comes together)
12. PHX (have 4 pretty good looking pieces, but if any of them disappoints they are sunk)
13. POR (once you get past Aldridge its a full on reuild)
14. HOU (no idea how you look at this roster jumble and think playoffs. a mess)
15. NOH (not sold on Davis being ready from the start, Gordon can't make a team win by himself)
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#130 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:39 pm

LOL why are you listing the Jazz as a playoff team? They're not that good and they did not get better.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#131 » by ChicagoStrong » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:54 pm

1. Oklahoma City (59-23)
2. Los Angeles Lakers (56-26)
3. San Antonio (54-28)
4. Los Angeles Clippers (53-29)
5. Memphis (51-31)
6. Dallas (49-33)
7. Denver (46-36)
8. Up for grabs (43-39)
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#132 » by NW » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:04 am

1-OKC
2-LAL
3-SA
4-LAC
5-Mem

Pretty much givens

6-11 Denver, Dallas, Utah, GSW, Minnesota and maybe Houston (should Morey's endgame be successful) pretty much are fighting it out for those spots.

As for the Utah debate, they have improved, but let's be real. They made the playoffs last year, but who were they really competing with at the end? An overachieving Phoenix team and that's it. everyone else in the West was done for due to injuries, trades or flat out sucking.

This year the fight for the last spots are far more competitive with more teams that should be good barring injury.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#133 » by elbowthrower » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:12 am

As a Denver fan, one thing I've learned over the years is that it's foolish to assume Utah won't be competitive.

Putting competitive teams on the floor is something that's part of the culture there and I don't see why they have a worse chance than many of the other 2nd/3rd tier teams in the West (aside from the Nugs, of course, who look to be a superior team in many ways ;)).
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#134 » by OneWhoKnocks » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:20 am

1. OKC
2. LAC
3. LAL
4. SAS
5. DEN
6. MEM
7. MIN
8. DAL
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#135 » by pace31 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:14 am

1) OKC
2) LAL
3) SAS
4) LAC
5) MEM
6) DEN
7) UTH
8) DAL
9) MIN
10) PHX
11) POR
12) GSW
13) HOU
14) NOH
15) SAC

Had a tough time filling out the bottom of the West. Seems like the bottom teams really aren't that bad. Wouldn't surprise me if any of those teams moved up or down like 5 spots.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#136 » by Little Digger » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:20 am

For GSW , the whole season depends on Bogut's health..If he's back to 2009-10 level of play, the Warriors could win 50..There's just too much talent in that starting lineup ..On the other end, if Bogut misses 30 to 50 games, GSW will be back in the low 30's.

Curry health is important too, but I could see the warriors not falling apart with Jack starting at the 1. Jack-Thompson-Barnes-Lee-healthy Bogut is still good for 40+ wins and an outside shot at the 8th seed.
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#137 » by BlazersRizing » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:25 am

from most to least wins...

1- LAL (rather easily)
2- LAC (good offseason moves gonna pay off)
3- OKC (due for at least one injury, haven't had one in 4 seasons)
4- MEM
5- SAS (core is ancient, last year won't be repeated)
6- MIN
7- GSW (sleeper team if healthy)
8- UTH
9- DAL
10- NOH
11- DEN
12- SAC
13- POR
14- PHX
15- HOU (embarrassing offseason)
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#138 » by Young_Star11 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:33 am

Pacific: Lakers/Clippers/Warriors/Kings/Suns
Southwest: Spurs/Grizzlies/Mavericks/Hornets/Rockets
Northwest: Thunder/Nuggets/Timberwolves/Jazz/Blazers

Seeding:
1. Thunder
2. Spurs
3. Lakers
4. Grizzlies
5. Clippers
6. Nuggets
7. Mavericks
8. Jazz

Same as last year!

9. Timberwolves
10. Warriors
11. Blazers
12. Suns
13. Kings
14. Hornets
15. Rockets
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#139 » by Bertrob » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:36 am

1. OKC
2. LAL
3. LAC
4. SAS
5. MEM
6. DAL
7. DEN
8. MIN
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Re: Seed the West 

Post#140 » by black bart » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:42 am

Minnesota si massively underrated. Memphis is massively overrated. Memphis is going to have a meltdown season. It always happens when a team relies on defense and loses in the first round when they were expected to go further. That team shouldn't be put near the top 4, if anything history indicates that something like what happened to the bucks. They go back into the lottery. Utah has no talent and frankly got in because minnesota was injured. Houston, Phonenix, and New Orleans sucks.

1. OKC
2. Lakers
3. Spurs
4. Minnesota
5. Clippers
6. Denver
7. Dallas
8. Golden State

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