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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#41 » by Tirion » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:37 am

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Tirion wrote:We weren't sucking for ten years! We were only sucking for eight! Get your logic straight!

I find it hard to believe we were rebuilding when Kevin Garnett was still on the roster.


So what were they doing by trading for Ricky Davis and Mark Blount? Competing?
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#42 » by Breakdown777 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:52 am

I believe Taylor, but teams and franchises and towns get screwed all the time. I wouldn't be surprised If/when a new "out of state" owner has a majority stake, and another town has a great new arena and an eager fan base, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves at the top of that "potential move" list. Currently I think teams like Sac and Charlotte are in more danger of moving, but towns like Seattle, Vegas, St. Louis, and maybe even New Jersey again would be clamoring for a NBA team.
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#43 » by Breakdown777 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:54 am

Tirion wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Tirion wrote:We weren't sucking for ten years! We were only sucking for eight! Get your logic straight!

I find it hard to believe we were rebuilding when Kevin Garnett was still on the roster.


So what were they doing by trading for Ricky Davis and Mark Blount? Competing?


And this is just silly. I'm sure most of us define "rebuilding" as tanking for high picks. We were in "win now" mode with the Ricky trade. You exaggerated when you said a "decade" and Klomp called you on it...time to move on :dontknow:
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#44 » by Tirion » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:06 am

Breakdown777 wrote:And this is just silly. I'm sure most of us define "rebuilding" as tanking for high picks. We were in "win now" mode with the Ricky trade. You exaggerated when you said a "decade" and Klomp called you on it...time to move on :dontknow:


How can you be in a win-now mode, when you're not making playoffs for three years in a row?

Also, I distinctly remember Madsen shooting threes.
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#45 » by Tirion » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:15 am

I just have a problem with people giving Taylor a pass, cause he kept the team in Minnesota.

That's like justifing what Soviets did in Poland, cause they liberated them from Germany.

He still was and is a terrible owner, who runs a dysfunctional organisation, based on nepotism and shifting the blame to the previous guy.
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#46 » by Tirion » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:24 am

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Tirion wrote:Glen didn't step up to keep the team in MN. He just wanted a toy and a ticket to team owners club. And now, when he's bored with the toy, after some initial "let's keep the team here" lipservice, he's in the bed with some out of town money already. Also whatever goodwill he had, he burned with Joe Smith fiasco and years of bad descision-making. Team is on the rise? No ****, after a decade of rebuilding it better be.


You mad? ... you seem mad ... :cuddle


Of course I'm mad, Taylor had the top-3 player in the league from 2000 till 2007 and didn't do **** with it. Then he traded said player for 0.01 cent on a dollar and fed the fans with empty promises and horrible basketball for 4 years. How can you call yourself a fan and not be mad at the guy?
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#47 » by Saltine » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:15 am

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_211 ... nds-likely
Minnesota Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor, who has been seeking an investor to eventually take over controlling interest of the NBA team, said Monday, July 30, that he and an out-of-state person he wouldn't identify "sort of" have an understanding for a deal.

The new partner could commit to a deal before the coming season, said Taylor, 71. But it could be several years before the prospective investor becomes general partner.

Taylor, whose office is in Mankato, would remain as a minority partner, and the team would be required to remain in Minnesota. The WNBA Lynx, also owned by Taylor, have not come up in negotiations yet, he said.

"We haven't done any paperwork yet, drawn up any contract or anything like that," Taylor said. "Just because you sort of verbally agree to something doesn't necessarily mean it's going to get pulled off. But we're proceeding."

Taylor said the new partner probably would come in as a 25-percent investor, then gradually buy more than 50 percent of the team.

Taylor bought the Timberwolves for $89 million in 1995. The team was valued at $269 million in 2011 by Forbes. Taylor declined Monday to say what he feels the Wolves are worth.

"Usually it's finance that's the big issue -- money -- and I think with that part we have a pretty good understanding about what it would cost," Taylor said.

Taylor said he has mixed feelings about giving up controlling interest.

"I don't like to think that at some time I won't be in control, but
I've got to think of my life and where I'm at and have a plan," he said. "I look at some other clubs where the owner has actually passed away, and it's really left them in kind of a bad situation, that they didn't have a plan of how they were going to do the transition. And they went through some very difficult times.

"As an owner, I just don't want that to happen here. So I think I have to give up some of my pride and being close to it and do what's right for the club."

Taylor said his health is good.

"It's just me planning ahead and being thoughtful about the whole process," he said. "But I think it would be the best for the organization, and you want to find someone who's really committed to Minnesota and who would be respected."

Taylor said that until a deal is done, the potential partner has requested to remain confidential.

"He's a businessperson like myself," he said.

Taylor added, "If this thing falls apart, then I'll go to someone else." He said several groups are interested in buying into the team.

Taylor has about a dozen limited partners in the Wolves.

"And I've met with them and told them of this plan, and a number of them probably would end up selling their stock to (the new partner)," he said.
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#48 » by cpfsf » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:09 pm

Tirion wrote:
Dewey wrote:
Tirion wrote:Glen didn't step up to keep the team in MN. He just wanted a toy and a ticket to team owners club. And now, when he's bored with the toy, after some initial "let's keep the team here" lipservice, he's in the bed with some out of town money already. Also whatever goodwill he had, he burned with Joe Smith fiasco and years of bad descision-making. Team is on the rise? No ****, after a decade of rebuilding it better be.


You mad? ... you seem mad ... :cuddle


Of course I'm mad, Taylor had the top-3 player in the league from 2000 till 2007 and didn't do **** with it. Then he traded said player for 0.01 cent on a dollar and fed the fans with empty promises and horrible basketball for 4 years. How can you call yourself a fan and not be mad at the guy?


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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#49 » by Tirion » Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:28 am

cpfsf wrote:
Tirion wrote:Of course I'm mad, Taylor had the top-3 player in the league from 2000 till 2007 and didn't do **** with it. Then he traded said player for 0.01 cent on a dollar and fed the fans with empty promises and horrible basketball for 4 years. How can you call yourself a fan and not be mad at the guy?


It's just a game and a business.


It's just emotions.
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#50 » by cpfsf » Thu Aug 2, 2012 1:58 pm

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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#51 » by eyeteeth » Thu Aug 2, 2012 2:39 pm

It's energy, coruscating through the illusory field of space-time.
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Post#52 » by [RCG] » Thu Aug 2, 2012 5:04 pm

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt
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Re: Glen Taylor Looking For Successor 

Post#53 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Aug 3, 2012 4:59 am

Tirion wrote:
cpfsf wrote:
Tirion wrote:Of course I'm mad, Taylor had the top-3 player in the league from 2000 till 2007 and didn't do **** with it. Then he traded said player for 0.01 cent on a dollar and fed the fans with empty promises and horrible basketball for 4 years. How can you call yourself a fan and not be mad at the guy?


It's just a game and a business.


It's just emotions.


KG was my all-time, but I don't think there's any doubt that we have a higher ceiling now than we would have had w/ KG. Personally I would have rode it out w/ KG to the bitter end just b/c the guy was willing to stay, but for me the biggest issue isn't that Glen traded KG or that we got a gash return, but just the way it was handled. He deserved to be sent off as a king and as farewell gift to him to let him compete for a title with nothing but goodwill, but all this negative media talk got in the way and now KG is basically indifferent to the franchise.

To me thats annoying b/c I feel the fans are the face and representation of the franchise, not Glen or McHale or whatever, but GT said some things that had nothing to do w/ the fan's feelings talking about KG's effort and whatnot and that puts the fans in a situation where they're choosing between the franchise and KG. Like a kid caught in his parent's divorce...I never really even cared about basketball pre-KG so his tenure was a big episode for me; I wish we could be in a situation where this offseason we were looking at KG as our big acquisition for a final hurrah, but that wasn't even possible thanks to the shenanigans of the higher ups.

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