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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#121 » by sir G Wallace » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:24 am

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Morthello wrote:Lol im a straight male with absolutely no desire to ever have children. Do i have a malfunction? I didnt know marriage was only about reproducing.


No, you don't have one. You love women (as you were evolved to do, correctly) and it is only modern birth control science that is helping you. If you lived 200 years ago with no contraceptives, you'd have children by now, whether you liked it or not.

Im sure he is talking about a mental malfunction and not a physiological mmalfunction when it comes to the natural desire to have kids.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#122 » by Froob » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:25 am

Not the best PR move to make but they are free to do it. I'm kinda neutral with the gay marriage thing I think they should have equal rights for sure equalivalent to marriage. But I don't really want them to force people to marry them against their belief. Haven't put a whole lot of thought and research into it though.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#123 » by RIPskaterdude » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:25 am

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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:The government is not favoring a religion over another, they are just staying out of it completely.


Not quite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act


That was just to preserve state to state laws. If that wasn't passed, everyone would simply move to states that allow it, get married, and move back.
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Post#124 » by sir G Wallace » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:26 am

Pretty dumb move when you are a business. No matter how strongly you feel about it if you are involved in a job that has to do with openly pleasing people then you shouldn't jump into such things.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#125 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:26 am

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There is no scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic. Studies are currently inconclusive, with evidence both for and against


All gay people say they were born that way.

Maybe they are confused and just believe their own deceptive reality. I don't know for sure, but I take them at their word for it.


Well that is obviously completely subjective and far from strong evidence.

But if you like, do a search on Google for people who used to practice homosexuality and are now heterosexual


Thanks, I think I will. I've heard about homosexuals going heterosexual before, but never really researched into it.

I think this whole issue is ridiculous, because the actual gay population is TINY. Very very small, yet they cause a ruckus louder than a lot of other, frankly, more important issues.
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Post#126 » by Myst » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:28 am

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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#127 » by Froob » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:29 am

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There is no scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic. Studies are currently inconclusive, with evidence both for and against


All gay people say they were born that way.

Maybe they are confused and just believe their own deceptive reality. I don't know for sure, but I take them at their word for it.

It's kinda hard to believe its not genetics. The way we are attracted to woman through hormones and stuff I find it hard to believe you can just choose to feel differently.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#128 » by og15 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:29 am

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Thanks, I think I will. I've heard about homosexuals going heterosexual before, but never really researched into it.

I think this whole issue is ridiculous, because the actual gay population is TINY. Very very small, yet they cause a ruckus louder than a lot of other, frankly, more important issues.

Don't be quick to complain about the minority getting press because you won't be saying the same thing if you became a minority due to some aspect of your life. Even if I don't support something, I won't have any problem with minority groups making their requests heard. Majority wins is not the way to go in everything. That only works for some things.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#129 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:29 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
Morthello wrote:Lol im a straight male with absolutely no desire to ever have children. Do i have a malfunction? I didnt know marriage was only about reproducing.


No, you don't have one. You love women (as you were evolved to do, correctly) and it is only modern birth control science that is helping you. If you lived 200 years ago with no contraceptives, you'd have children by now, whether you liked it or not.

Im sure he is talking about a mental malfunction and not a physiological mmalfunction when it comes to the natural desire to have kids.


Yes but I didn't acknowledge that side because it's irrelevant.... people can decide to not want to eat and use their willpower to starve. The body, however, wants you to eat.

So, as long as your body is functioning correctly, I don't really worry about what people want to think. Our minds are powerful and can do pretty much anything we want, including going against your very own biology. No point in talking about it.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#130 » by og15 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:31 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
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There is no scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic. Studies are currently inconclusive, with evidence both for and against


All gay people say they were born that way.

Maybe they are confused and just believe their own deceptive reality. I don't know for sure, but I take them at their word for it.

It's kinda hard to believe its not genetics. The way we are attracted to woman through hormones and stuff I find it hard to believe you can just choose to feel differently.

A lot of gay people's attraction isn't just of a sexual nature, for some, the sexual attraction is not even a big thing. For some it is an emotional attraction that spurs their orientation. Again, that's why there's no determined "reason" why one is gay, but there are multiple influencing factors with both nature and nurture playing a part.
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Post#131 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:32 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
Thanks, I think I will. I've heard about homosexuals going heterosexual before, but never really researched into it.

I think this whole issue is ridiculous, because the actual gay population is TINY. Very very small, yet they cause a ruckus louder than a lot of other, frankly, more important issues.

Don't be quick to complain about the minority getting press because you won't be saying the same thing if you became a minority due to some aspect of your life. Even if I don't support something, I won't have any problem with minority groups making their requests heard. Majority wins is not the way to go in everything. That only works for some things.


You have a relevant point, and it's true.... you are right about that..... but it was just a passing comment. Not really part of my arguments... just an observation.
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Post#132 » by MannyRam99 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:32 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
I think this whole issue is ridiculous, because the actual gay population is TINY. Very very small, yet they cause a ruckus louder than a lot of other, frankly, more important issues.


You could have done without including this segment in your post. It is very similar to something a racist would say, pre-MLK.
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Post#133 » by MagicTownBaller » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:33 am

Surprised this hasn't turned into a "That's why Dwight wants to leave" thread.
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#134 » by lakerz12 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:33 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
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There is no scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic. Studies are currently inconclusive, with evidence both for and against


All gay people say they were born that way.

Maybe they are confused and just believe their own deceptive reality. I don't know for sure, but I take them at their word for it.

It's kinda hard to believe its not genetics. The way we are attracted to woman through hormones and stuff I find it hard to believe you can just choose to feel differently.


Whether it's genetic or not, there are definitely many many factors that go into it. It definitely isn't just a simple choice.

If your parents both played professional basketball, you were born in that basketball home and culture, you are 6'9" 250 and ripped, you have a 45" verticle, and you play in the NBA.

Did you choose to play in the NBA? Yes.

Were you heavily influenced beyond your control to make that choice? Yes.

Haven't thought this out very much but it could be similar to that.. just one possibility
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Post#135 » by Yuri Vaultin » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:35 am

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2) Their genetic defect is perverse to most of us. It is wrong. We don't want to legitimize this perverse existence by putting it on equal footing to the real human family nucleus.

Get over yourself. Gay is everywhere. What should we do with all the gayness in nature? You know the nature your infallible God made in a matter of days? Should we put gay dogs down? Seek out and destroy gay monkeys? We should obviously do something to dissuade those homo sodomite dolphins from banging each other - it sets a bad example for all the other sea creatures and we can't legitimize it. Screw it, we should just kill all the other animals, because it's like we're condoning these animals' gay behavior. We must stop gay squirrels from spreading their unholy message and butt cheeks.

Do you even realize that homosexuality and more the more prevalent bisexuality has been around since the dawning of time. In fact one can make a stronger argument that a lack of homosexual behavior in society is more unnatural than having homosexuals.
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Post#136 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:36 am

og15 wrote:A lot of gay people's attraction isn't just of a sexual nature, for some, the sexual attraction is not even a big thing. For some it is an emotional attraction that spurs their orientation. Again, that's why there's no determined "reason" why one is gay, but there are multiple influencing factors with both nature and nurture playing a part.


Sexual attraction has to be the biggest factor, though. Because if it was just emotional, they would be able to fall in love with a woman. The fact they differentiate specifically between the genders, means that their brains messed up during development and are attracted to the wrong gender.
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Post#137 » by tiderulz » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:39 am

TylerTheDebater wrote:
Jameslm18 wrote:People are entitled to there opinion!

I am against gay marrage, I don't have anything against homosexual people I just don't think they should be aloud to marry as that's a religious bond between two people of oppersite sexes

I'm sure many won't agree with me and that's ok but to call them names would be wrong

So the idiot that said "bigot" and other such terms grow up


Marriage is not a religious bond.

And by religious you meant Christian, anyway. So Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc, cannot get married?

And you do have something against homosexuals, you just said it yourself. Homosexuals cannot get married in your eyes because they don't classify as religious to you, when there are many, many gay Christians, Jews, etc.


marriage can be a religious bond. you get married by your church if you want, making a vow in front of your god if you believe that.
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Post#138 » by Froob » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:39 am

Are there really gay animals tho? Like animals do "weird" things but they all have heterosexual drive don't they even though they will do homosexual acts? Someone correct me if I'm off here.
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Post#139 » by lovethewire » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:40 am

I'm completely against gays period, that includes marriage, the adoption of kids, and that they get these rights they don't deserve
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Post#140 » by Felixano » Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:42 am

TylerTheDebater wrote:
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Anyone defending the hatred against homosexuals when it comes to marriage is a homophobe. There's no way around it. There's no reason to be against same sex marriage. AT ALL. If you say "that's how marriage always was"... you were against inter-racial marriage too? Inter-religion marriage? You wouldn't admit to that, but it's okay to admit to being against same sex marriage? GTFO.

No, no, no, no.

Interracial marriage does not have the same implications as same sex marriage, don't even go there. Interracial marriage doesn't involve anything that goes against or defies holy matrimony, same-sex marriage does.


People are born gay.

People are born black.


The bible has nothing to do with marriage. Marriage was not invented by Christians.


If I hear this crappy argument again I am gonna freaking lose it. There is NO proof that homosexuality is genetic in any way shape or form, you are not BORN gay. All evidence points to homosexuality being a choice or condition created by how a person is brought up or what they experience throughout their lives. On the other hand, I WAS born black so there it is not acceptable to discriminate against myself or any other black person.

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