qm22 wrote:peja drobnjak wrote:lakerz12 wrote:Evolution is being abandoned by many scientists, also. It is taught as fact in public schools, but is subject to debate amongst world renowned scientists. Look it up.
yeah no the debate is mostly about things like is there a valid method by which something like kin selection is applied to living organisms etc. they'll fight about it but in the grand scheme they're little niggles
no biologist, likely nobody prominent working in the physical sciences, doesn't consider the theory of evolution valid. also wtf is this doing in a gay marriage thread
OMFG _!_!_!_!_!_!_
Someone who has internet access... is capable of believing that evolution is a debate and being abandoned by many scientists? Ouch, humanity, ouch. Ouch.
Not sure if second poster is being sarcastic but here are some quotes you both may find interesting:
"Nine-tenths of the talk of evolutionists is sheer nonsense, not founded on observation and wholly unsupported by facts. This museum is full of proofs of the utter falsity of their views. In all this great museum, there is not a particle of evidence of the transmutation of species." (Dr. Etheridge, Paleontologist of the British Museum)
"I reject evolution because I deem it obsolete; because the knowledge, hard won since 1830, of anatomy, histology, cytology, and embryology, cannot be made to accord with its basic idea. The foundationless, fantastic edifice of the evolution doctrine would long ago have met with its long- deserved fate were it not that the love of fairy tales is so deep-rooted in the hearts of man." (Dr. Albert Fleischmann, University of Erlangen)
"By the late 1970s, debates on university campuses throughout the free world were being held on the subject of origins with increasing frequency. Hundreds of scientists, who once accepted the theory of evolution as fact, were abandoning ship and claiming that the scientific evidence was in total support of the theory of creation. Well-known evolutionists, such as Isaac Asimov and Stephen Jay Gould, were stating that, since the creationist scientists had won all of the more than one hundred debates, the evolutionists should not debate them." (Luther Sunderland, "Darwin's Enigma", p.10)
"The more one studies paleontology, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based on faith alone; exactly the same sort of faith which is necessary to have when one encounters the great mysteries of religion... The only alternative is the doctrine of special creation, which may be true, but is irrational." (Dr. L.T. More)
"I have come to the conclusion that Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research programme... (Dr. Karl Popper, German-born philosopher of science, called by Nobel Prize-winner Peter Medawar, "incomparably the greatest philosopher of science who has ever lived.")
"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an unproved theory -- is it then a science or faith? Belief in the theory of evolution is thus exactly parallel to belief in special creation..." (Dr. L. Harrison Matthews, in the introduction to the 1971 edition of Darwin's "Origin of Species")
More here:
http://www.aboundingjoy.com/scientists.htmAnd just keep looking, put evolution to the test and it fails.. not that it would disprove God whatsoever anyways