Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage

[Stunnaboy2K11]

how is being gay a "defect"?
Doesnt defect mean a shortcoming or a fault? How does being gay make that person any lesser than the others around him?

Would be a nice pickup line though

Like, hey bert I have a defect for you

[peja drobnjak]

@jazze89 nope, because I choose to be attracted to women

That doesn't make any sense. Attraction isn't something you can choose. Name me a moment where you CHOSE to be attracted to someone or something where there was no attraction before.

Sure, when I was in high-school, I got hooked up with a chick that from a friend, I got to know her before we met, she had an excellent personality, when I met her, I wasn't attracted to her at all, however after time being with her on a regular basis, I chose to find attractive things about her and thus became attracted to her.

what i'm hearing is you faked it till you felt it

if that's how stuff works for you you should probably switch teams bro

[LOJ]

how is being gay a "defect"?
Doesnt defect mean a shortcoming or a fault? How does being gay make that person any lesser than the others around him?

Do you think people in wheelchairs are "lesser" than you? No, I don't think any of us do. I don't think homosexuals are "lesser" than anyone else.

But they are born with a genetic defect. Males are biologically evolved/created to mate with females. Fact. That is what our reproductive systems are for. If a male wants to behave like a woman, and is attracted to things that a woman is attracted to (males), then that man's sexual drive developed incorrectly, malfunctioned, genetic defect.

If a person is born with 3 arms, are they not suffering from a genetic malfunction? Is their condition not a genetic defect?

Are you so politically correct that you can't call a spade, a spade?

What he's trying to say is how that is an impediment in every day life. A "defect" as you would say

[L3GEND4RY]

I believe that gays are born that way..... a genetic defect/malfunction, same as any other in the long list of defects a person can be born with.

I can't force myself to be attracted to a male. When I look at a beautiful woman though.....oh I get happy and just want to shack up with her and make lots of babies. This is programmed into me, by evolution.


So, it would be logical to say that homosexuals sex drive is not working correctly.

Even though it's a pretty unpopular opinion, the case is made pretty well. Just like the other guy said, not sure if I'd refer to it as a "defect." No doubt you're going to get a lot of **** for that.

But as far as evolution goes, I think people are "pre-programmed" to be attracted to the opposite sex for survival purposes. Somewhere in between that stops being the case and you get people with a gay or bi-sexual orientation. Regardless of the fact, they should be given equal rights. Otherwise it's pretty much discrimination.

[Stunnaboy2K11]

People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So you could choose to get completely turned on by sucking me off?

Be nice to him, he's just a minor accident away from being a full on homo

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

why is your method correct when the reproductive drive isn't held to be the fundamental motivator for the vast majority of people's lives?

Fundamental motivator of what? You weren't clear

[Dennis 37]

@ jaze89

im just arguing its a choice, im not in the group who discriminates against homosexuality. We really have nothing to discuss because I agree with your points for the most part.

When you argue it is a choice you give ammunition to those conservative Christians who try to tell their gay children they have just made a wrong choice and they can be cured.

It is only a choice if they are bisexual.

Heterosexuals are like magnets. The are repulsed by the same pole. And it's not a choice. No heterosexual chooses to be gay. Who teaches you this stuff?

[LOJ]

I believe that gays are born that way..... a genetic defect/malfunction, same as any other in the long list of defects a person can be born with.

I can't force myself to be attracted to a male. When I look at a beautiful woman though.....oh I get happy and just want to shack up with her and make lots of babies. This is programmed into me, by evolution.


So, it would be logical to say that homosexuals sex drive is not working correctly.

But as far as evolution goes, I think people are "pre-programmed" to be attracted to the opposite sex for survival purposes. =

I was waiting until someone said this, because I knew it was coming. So you're telling me a 100% gay person will be so repulsed to have sex with a woman that if the survival of the human race hung in the balance of him procreating with the said female he wouldn't be able to?

Give me a break.

[Bertrob]

Would be a nice pickup line though

Like, hey bert I have a defect for you

My pants would drop at the sound of that

[Yuri Vaultin]

People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So you could choose to get completely turned on by sucking me off?

If you had an excellent personality when he met you for sure, despite not being attracted to you at all, however after time being with you on a regular basis, he will chose to find attractive things about you and thus became attracted to you.

[jaze89]

@ jaze89

im just arguing its a choice, im not in the group who discriminates against homosexuality. We really have nothing to discuss because I agree with your points for the most part.

Well part of my argument is that it isn't a choice. I can honestly say I can't force myself to be attracted to something. I can't force myself to be attracted to a female I don't find attractive but someone else might find beauty there.

but for arguments sake, lets say you screwed females all your life but one day you found your soul mate, who also happens to be a guy and you decided that is who you want to spend the rest of your life with. Have you not then made a conscious decision, in terms of sexual preference ? (male bisexuals are still homosexuals btw)

Legend:

decided = choice

decision = choice

preference = choice

Fine, the decision to be with a certain person is a choice, I don't think preference is a choice however. Maybe you prefer women 60% of the time and men 40% but I assume that's because you find women more attractive than men which I don't believe can be a "choice".

You're making it seem that your opinion is that it's a bad thing to pursue your soul mate if that person is the same sex if you are also attracted to females. I don't agree.

[AVolumeScorer]

To be completely off topic/debate, I have a question. I listen to rap, alot. One of my favorite artists is Lloyd Banks and he's had lines such as:
see these record labels got most artists getting **** like a gay rapper

I don't stop listening to Lloyd Banks because he has lines that are using "f@ggot" or implying that being gay is a negative as a human. Would you consider me a homophobe because I continue to listen to Lloyd Banks despite these lyrics?

[MannyRam99]

People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So you could choose to get completely turned on by sucking me off?

If you had an excellent personality when he met you for sure, despite not being attracted to you at all, however after time being with you on a regular basis, he will chose to find attractive things about you and thus became attracted to you.

trololololololol

[lovethewire]

People are not born gay, its a choice, so if you choose to.live that life, deal with the consequences, you don't deserve all the rights as everyone else, same with felons not going able to vote, if you choose to break the law you don't deserve the privileges of everyone else

So you could choose to get completely turned on by sucking me off?

Be nice to him, he's just a minor accident away from being a full on homo

If I ever get there I'll b sure to get your advice on the journey ahead of me

[Ayt]

I suggest reading more and finding that there are rational reasons to oppose it.

Creationism is actually taught in some science classes (1 example: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... classroom/).

Evolution is being abandoned by many scientists, also. It is taught as fact in public schools, but is subject to debate amongst world renowned scientists. Look it up.

I really don't understand how people think Creationism is wrong, when every major astro-physicist going back to Albert Einstein will tell you that the universe was created (Big Bang) at a single point in time. Now, the DETAILS of creationism is where everyone has problems. Some people believe 3,000 years, other people believe the universe was created 15 billion years ago by God and then the plan was set into motion on it's own.

but science itself supports creationism. A natural system like the universe cannot create itself. That defies all logic and the basic laws of thermodynamics.

I completely agree. It is obviously rooted in a bias against the notion of a creator.

In other words, we don't currently understand a phenomena, therefore God did it. That has worked out extremely well throughout history. OMG! Lightning just struck! God did it! Wait. What century am I in?

Stating that creationism is scientific would be like stating water is dry. Scientific creationism is a contradiction in terms.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

lol, first you went from homosexuality is a genetic defect. But then genetic defects are natural (ergo, homosexuality is natural).

1) Being born with 3 legs is a genetic defect.

2) Genetic defects are a natural process of nature.

3) We try to "fix" these unfortunate birth defects for those who want to fix it(willingly), via medical science.

Are you trying to say being born with a genetic defect is good?

I don't see the problem with this.

So finally you're at health complications and dangers. Care to explain any proven health complications and dangers? Smoking is causes cancer, do we stop smokers from getting married?

Go educate yourself on the health complications and risks involved with homosexuality, especially for males. Hint : The anus was not designed for constant penetration.

[qm22]

I believe that gays are born that way..... a genetic defect/malfunction, same as any other in the long list of defects a person can be born with.

I can't force myself to be attracted to a male. When I look at a beautiful woman though.....oh I get happy and just want to shack up with her and make lots of babies. This is programmed into me, by evolution.


So, it would be logical to say that homosexuals sex drive is not working correctly.

There are possibilities you plainly ignore.

1. Bisexuality
2. Evolution of sexual preferences to be determined by randomly producing a diverse outcome of sexual orientations. The basis for this being a plausibly evolutionarily advantageous trait would be it could increase genetic diversity, a well known advantage to populations. Let's simplify it as one single gene causing random sexual preferences being carried, so it will at random cause some guys to be born with huge sexual desire (a direct advantage, let's call it +10 points for evolutionary advantage arbitrary units). It causes 3/10 guys to have an attraction to males, they might have population advantages through non-sexual function, but let's just say this is a -10 (it is less costly since they do not reproduce). If you compare this population (A) to a population without this gene (B), than A will outproduce B and breed with B, so it will become widespread.

Such a scenario causes an increase in species and diversity by routinely producing random super sexual guys as well as unpredictable potentially non-reproducing guys, but overall causes more offspring so is passed in evolution due to the super sexual perverts....

That's a very plausible scenario, thought up in 5 minutes. The point is there are a LOT of cases where a population has an advantage despite the loss of reproduction, but it is beneficial because the overall population benefits by carrying it, although on a reproductive level it fails individually.

[BigMarketFan]

I was holding out for the possibility you were being sarcastic but it looks like theres no saving you
There is NO evidence that most pedophiles are gay
I don't know how you came across the opinion that most of them are, but I'm sorry you need to do some thinking or something because what you are saying is completely false

pedophiles who attack males are gay. Jerry Sandusky is a gay, nh. Sorry if this offends the agenda that was forced upon you by the gremlins of society

[MannyRam99]

To be completely off topic/debate, I have a question. I listen to rap, alot. One of my favorite artists is Lloyd Banks and he's had lines such as:
see these record labels got most artists getting **** like a gay rapper

I don't stop listening to Lloyd Banks because he has lines that are using "f@ggot" or implying that being gay is a negative as a human. Would you consider me a homophobe because I continue to listen to Lloyd Banks despite these lyrics?

It's a metaphor, so although it can be considered offensive. There is no conclusive evidence for you or Lloyd Banks to be considered homophobes.

[AVolumeScorer]

I was holding out for the possibility you were being sarcastic but it looks like theres no saving you
There is NO evidence that most pedophiles are gay
I don't know how you came across the opinion that most of them are, but I'm sorry you need to do some thinking or something because what you are saying is completely false

pedophiles who attack males are gay. Jerry Sandusky is a gay, nh. Sorry if this offends the agenda that was forced upon you by the gremlins of society

If I'm black, am I more likely to r@pe someone?