Keeper advice

[hsiaokang0903]

14-team Roto standard 9-cat

Each team gets to keep 5 players

I am having a hard time deciding between the following players:

Kevin Love
Deron Williams
Dwight Howard
Rajon Rondo
Ty Lawson
James Harden
Al Horford

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[azuresou1]

Love
Dwight
Horford
Deron

4th spot is a tossup between Harden and Rondo, I'd lean towards Rondo since you'd need AST more than 3PTM or PTS.

[witnessraps]

Love
Deron
Dwight
Rondo
Lawson

would be my choice. Question, how the heck is your team so stacked?

[hsiaokang0903]

Love
Deron
Dwight
Rondo
Lawson

would be my choice. Question, how the heck is your team so stacked?

Thanks for the suggestion.
I got lucky with reaching for Rondo in 08 and Love in 09. Those two picks paid off big time for me.

[witnessraps]

Love
Deron
Dwight
Rondo
Lawson

would be my choice. Question, how the heck is your team so stacked?

Thanks for the suggestion.
I got lucky with reaching for Rondo in 08 and Love in 09. Those two picks paid off big time for me.

I see what you mean. I'm in a keeper league and only going into the second year so I've only been through one draft. I'm planning on taking some young players to work out like your stars have, like Davis, Beal, MKG, Lillard

[Bank Shot]

How did you do last year? Dwight in roto is pretty much a do not want. I'm not a fan of punting in roto (I love Dwight in H2H though).

If you want to punt FT:

Dwight
Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford

If you want a more balanced team:

Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford
Harden

I'm not a fan of Rondo in fantasy, especially in roto. He's a beast in 2 cats, solid in another, and hurts you everywhere else. The above 5 guys are strong in assists anyways so I'd rather go for the better all-around guy in Harden.

[azuresou1]

I think it's pretty foolish to drop Dwight, when Love, Williams, and Horford are all pretty decent FT shooters, as is Harden.

Lawson's overrated IMO, and I'd take Rondo over him any day - Rondo gets close to 5 assists more a game, which is worth far more than anything Lawson contributes. You can pick up a guy like Jeff Teague who will give you 90% of what Lawson gives you in the draft; no one is giving you what Rondo gives.

[niQ]

Kevin Love
Deron Williams
Rajon Rondo
James Harden
Al Horford

For Roto, this would be my pick. I'd switch Horford for Dwight if it was H2H.
I love Ty Lawson but I can't pull myself to call him a keeper just yet. Plus with, Deron and Rondo, you're pretty stacked at the PG already.

[Bank Shot]

I think it's pretty foolish to drop Dwight, when Love, Williams, and Horford are all pretty decent FT shooters, as is Harden.

Lawson's overrated IMO, and I'd take Rondo over him any day - Rondo gets close to 5 assists more a game, which is worth far more than anything Lawson contributes. You can pick up a guy like Jeff Teague who will give you 90% of what Lawson gives you in the draft; no one is giving you what Rondo gives.

Even with Love, Williams, Harden and Horford, his team's FT% with Dwight would be 72%. That would be good for a 1 in FT%. Obvious it gets even worse with Rondo. To make things worse, this team is going to be really bad in TO (especially with Rondo) so right off the bat if you go with Dwight you're in big trouble in 2 cats. If you go for the a more balanced lineup like the one I suggested, you still have a stacked team but don't put yourself at a disadvantage right off the bat.

Really, really, really disagree with Rondo over Lawson. Maybe, depending on team make up, in H2H it could make sense but definitely not in roto. Lawson was ranked 24th last year and Rondo 96th for a reason. Rondo's assists are great but Lawson has huge advantages in percentages, turnovers, and points, and can actually hit threes. Rondo hurts you in 6 cats, including being the 5th worst player in TOs and the 6th worse in FT%. Rondo hurts you at the line more than guys like DeAndre and Bogut. Lawson hurts you badly nowhere (2.4 TOs is solid for a PG) and is above average in 6 cats.

Lawson has been great for a year and a half now and is only going to get better. Lawson is locked into the top 40 and has top 20 upside; there's not a lot to not like.

[hsiaokang0903]

How did you do last year? Dwight in roto is pretty much a do not want. I'm not a fan of punting in roto (I love Dwight in H2H though).

If you want to punt FT:

Dwight
Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford

If you want a more balanced team:

Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford
Harden

I'm not a fan of Rondo in fantasy, especially in roto. He's a beast in 2 cats, solid in another, and hurts you everywhere else. The above 5 guys are strong in assists anyways so I'd rather go for the better all-around guy in Harden.

My team ranked 1st and 2nd during the past two seasons, but that's when we counted OREB and A/T.
With a core of Love/Howard/Williams/Rondo/Horford, my team ranked near the top on everything except for FT% and TO. I was able to get shooters late in the draft consistently.

Now the managers voted to switch back to standard 9-cat, I am seriously considering dropping Howard. It's possible to punt FT% and win a league with 11-cat roto, but I am not sure if it is doable on a standard 9-cat.

[Hypnotoad]

Kevin Love
Deron Williams
Dwight Howard
Rajon Rondo
Ty Lawson
James Harden
Al Horford

Love and Williams are no-brainers, those guys are elite talents.

Lawson, Horford and Harden are all solid but not category-winning playersthat give you good balance.

Dwight is a huge talent, but he's also highly problematic. He's pretty much an instant kill to your free throws because not only does he miss them, he misses a ton of them because of his FT volume. He also has high turnover totals for a non-ballhandler, which puts you in a hole there as well. It's easier to get away with that in head-to-head scoring than roto, you have to dominate the other categories.

I'm really not big on Rondo, especially in roto. He's basically a 2-category player. You basically need to compensate in the other 7 categories if you take him.

Basically, it comes down to whether you want Howard or not. If you take him, you might as well grab Rondo too since you're already losing FT% and turnovers. You'd own rebounds and assists, have 3 reasonably solid scorers and have a really good contributor in 3's, steals and blocks on the roster already. The last spot would be debateable, between Harden and Horford IMO because you'd want to improve your 3's and FG% a bit. It'd be a shame to lose Lawson, but he'd be fairly redundant with Williams and Rondo already (Can you trade before the draft? I'd think you could get good value for him).

If you don't want to start basically losing two categories right away, I'd say take the other 5 guys besides Dwight and Rondo. They're all balanced, solid players that will contribute in a lot of areas and won't kill you anywhere. Plus if you draft well, you can always try to package one of them with some of your good later picks to get another monster.

[raffrox]

In roto, lose Dwight and Rondo and keep the rest.

[patentboy23]

How did you do last year? Dwight in roto is pretty much a do not want. I'm not a fan of punting in roto (I love Dwight in H2H though).

If you want to punt FT:

Dwight
Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford

If you want a more balanced team:

Love
Williams
Lawson
Horford
Harden

I'm not a fan of Rondo in fantasy, especially in roto. He's a beast in 2 cats, solid in another, and hurts you everywhere else. The above 5 guys are strong in assists anyways so I'd rather go for the better all-around guy in Harden.

co-sign. If it's roto then you definitely do not want Dwight. In that case, Love, Harden, Lawson, Deron, and Horford.