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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1421 » by Ahmadab » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:20 pm

Guys, if you think that the Magic want to take back Gasol and not flip him for other pieces when they could simply trade for Bynum straight up then you're crazy.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1422 » by Def Swami » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:20 pm

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As others have noted, this one reeks of "hey Houston, we're gonna do this. I swear. I'm just about to do it. No really. Here I go ..."
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1423 » by Just Plain Mark » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:21 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:I think Gasol is underrated around here. I'd welcome him without hesitation. Don't forget he becomes a huge expiring next season.


Howard is a huge expiring this year. If the Magic want to clear salary, why would take on a salary that has more time on it? Plus, Aflalo is getting paid $7.7 for 3 more years.

I don't think there's anyway the Magic would contend with Pau and Aflalo added to the team, and adding those two delays a rebuild. So it seems like a bad deal all around to me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1424 » by Def Swami » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:22 pm

Again, D12 and J-Rich for Pau and Bynum would be a better deal.
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Edition) 

Post#1425 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:22 pm

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As others have noted, this one reeks of "hey Houston, we're gonna do this. I swear. I'm just about to do it. No really. Here I go ..."

I agree. This one just stinks. About as bad as the Nets deal.
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Post#1426 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:23 pm

Regardless, you can see Lakers are wanting to spread the floor for Nash & Dwight and have shooters camped out.
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Post#1427 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:23 pm

Is this the offer:

-Magic get: Andrew Bynum, Aaron Afflalo, Devin Ebanks
-Lakers get: Howard, Richardson
-Nuggets get: Iggy, Nikola Vucenvic
-76ers get: Wilson Chandler, Josh McRoberts, Chris Duhan, Christian Eyenga
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Post#1428 » by grayson11 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:23 pm

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The Lakers haven't been able to flip Gasol for role players, so idk why the Magic think they'd be able to. ¯\(ツ)/¯

yep

Perhaps because LA is not looking to rebuild with picks and prospects?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1429 » by Def Swami » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:25 pm

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VGOSWAMI wrote:
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The Lakers haven't been able to flip Gasol for role players, so idk why the Magic think they'd be able to. ¯\(ツ)/¯

yep

Perhaps because LA is not looking to rebuild with picks and prospects?

Gasol can net picks and prospects?
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Post#1430 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:25 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Is this the offer:

-Magic get: Andrew Bynum, Aaron Afflalo, Devin Ebanks
-Lakers get: Howard, Richardson
-Nuggets get: Iggy, Nikola Vucenvic
-76ers get: Wilson Chandler, Josh McRoberts, Chris Duhan, Christian Eyenga

I'd take that offer over what we're getting.
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Post#1431 » by Ahmadab » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:26 pm

I spoke with Magic CEO Alex Martins two days ago about the Dwight Howard situation, & he had the following to say. I share this now, of course, since Yahoo! is reporting four-way Howard talks with Orlando, the Lakers, Philly and Denver.
Martins. I had asked Martins about the recent assertion in the media that the Magic were changing their wish list in a possible deal and unclear what they wanted.
Martins to SI.com: "Without divulging what the specifics are, I would say that we have very specific goals as to what we would hope to achieve if we were to trade Dwight, ok? And clearly, we have three primary goals that we’re trying to achieve in what we would receive in return. We acknowledge and are realistic about the fact that you’re never going to get equal value in return for Dwight Howard. But if we were to trade him, we have three primary goals that we’re trying to achieve and in the end, any deal that’s proposed to us I think we’ve been very clear about the fact about the goals of what we’re trying to achieve. We have never delineated from that. Some may think that we have, but we have not. Clearly, when we find the right combination of pieces that we’re looking for in return, that will determine whether we make a deal or not." -
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1432 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:26 pm

When I first saw Philly and Denver, I was hoping for Turner and Faried but Gasol & Affalo?? Yuck, next one please
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Post#1433 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:26 pm

I spoke with Magic CEO Alex Martins two days ago about the Dwight Howard situation, & he had the following to say. I share this now, of course, since Yahoo! is reporting four-way Howard talks with Orlando, the Lakers, Philly and Denver.
Martins. I had asked Martins about the recent assertion in the media that the Magic were changing their wish list in a possible deal and unclear what they wanted.
Martins to SI.com: "Without divulging what the specifics are, I would say that we have very specific goals as to what we would hope to achieve if we were to trade Dwight, ok? And clearly, we have three primary goals that we’re trying to achieve in what we would receive in return. We acknowledge and are realistic about the fact that you’re never going to get equal value in return for Dwight Howard. But if we were to trade him, we have three primary goals that we’re trying to achieve and in the end, any deal that’s proposed to us I think we’ve been very clear about the fact about the goals of what we’re trying to achieve. We have never delineated from that. Some may think that we have, but we have not. Clearly, when we find the right combination of pieces that we’re looking for in return, that will determine whether we make a deal or not."

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Post#1434 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:26 pm

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Post#1435 » by Snake101st » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:30 pm

If we don't get Iggy and Bynum out of this, I'll be disappointed. Either that or Iggy + Gasol + Ebanks/ W. Chandler. Basically, helping the nuggets get Iggy for al harrington and W. Chandler instead of us getting him is just silly.
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Post#1436 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:31 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
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Jason Richardson is under the belief that he may get traded to Denver.


Great news.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1437 » by Ahmadab » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:31 pm

If we can twist this somehow and end up with Iggy and Bynum + space to sign CP3 or Ellis or someone next summer DO EEEEEET
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1438 » by Howard Mass » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:32 pm

I like Aaron Afflalo but the rest of this deal does not really intrique me.

I doubt this deal is the one that goes down as it is just as bad if not worse than The Nets deal.

Draft picks would be hard to do unless they are going from Denver.

Philadelphia's first is incumbered because of a draft night deal they made with Miami and so are the Lakers who owe two firsts to Phoenix for Steve Nash.

I think this deal is just another rumor and I think everyone sees it for what it is.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1439 » by Def Swami » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:32 pm

Ahmadab wrote:If we can twist this somehow and end up with Iggy and Bynum + space to sign CP3 or Ellis or someone next summer DO EEEEEET

Anything with Bynum and some wing talent. Iggy preferably, but I wouldn't cry if it was Chandler or Gallo or even Afflalo.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#1440 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:32 pm

Give me Gasol (or Bynum), Afflalo, Turner, & Ebanks and picks

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