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Post#101 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:37 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Whoever they start at PF, be it Moultrie, Hawes, or Young, that team will have issues with spacing.

Memphis has a star at SF who would draw defensive attention and two stars in the post. The defense was focused on those guys as it was, which made it easier for a player like Allen to slash -- which is what he did best. Conley, I believe, also improved his outside shot last year a good amount.

As for our situation -- last year Felton =/= this year Felton...I thought everyone agreed on that no matter how much he/she despised him. As for Brewer, he is a hard slasher and does it very well. With the defensive attention focused on Melo and Amar'e (with Chandler cutting to the basket on pick and rolls), he will be able to move freely.

The 6ers would have one guy to demand attention - Bynum. No wing scorer...just Bynum (who is a semi-black hole and isn't a great passer out of the post, either).


I can't agree with any of this... sorry.

Turner and Holiday haven't even reached their peak.. and both can score from their positions.

And I'm sorry but what does =/= mean? If that's the universal symbol for "forget what Ray Felton did last year" then I can't agree with that either.

I'm sure Collins is well versed on whether or not he needs a PF to help create spacing on the court...

And we've already seen our frontline struggle with "spacing" in relation to the part of the court that is more valuable than the 3pt line.

I'm not seeing anyway if the Sixers add Bynum how they're not a better team.
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Post#102 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:37 pm

barborous wrote:Agreed... Sixers are in general in pretty bad shape right now, especially at PG. Jrue is one of the worst starters in the league.


He's better than Felton.
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Post#103 » by digitaldropoff » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:40 pm

barborous wrote:Agreed... Sixers are in general in pretty bad shape right now, especially at PG. Jrue is one of the worst starters in the league.


Say wha?.....Holiday is hands down more talented than Felton, let alone far better than the starters on teams like Portland, Charlotte, and GS. Felton is at least more experienced, so he might have an edge, but don't act like Holiday sucks. He's incredibly talented, he just happens to be wicked young. I expect him to turn a Ty Lawsoneque corner this year the way Ty did last. I don't see how the sixers are in bad shape either....they have a young and talented team, and they would be adding a top five center?
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Post#104 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:40 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Whoever they start at PF, be it Moultrie, Hawes, or Young, that team will have issues with spacing.

Memphis has a star at SF who would draw defensive attention and two stars in the post. The defense was focused on those guys as it was, which made it easier for a player like Allen to slash -- which is what he did best. Conley, I believe, also improved his outside shot last year a good amount.

As for our situation -- last year Felton =/= this year Felton...I thought everyone agreed on that no matter how much he/she despised him. As for Brewer, he is a hard slasher and does it very well. With the defensive attention focused on Melo and Amar'e (with Chandler cutting to the basket on pick and rolls), he will be able to move freely.

The 6ers would have one guy to demand attention - Bynum. No wing scorer...just Bynum (who is a semi-black hole and isn't a great passer out of the post, either).


I can't agree with any of this... sorry.

Turner and Holiday haven't even reached their peak.. and both can score from their positions.

And I'm sorry but what does =/= mean? If that's the universal symbol for "forget what Ray Felton did last year" then I can't agree with that either.

I'm sure Collins is well versed on whether or not he needs a PF to help create spacing on the court...

And we've already seen our frontline struggle with "spacing" in relation to the part of the court that is more valuable than the 3pt line.

I'm not seeing anyway if the Sixers add Bynum how they're not a better team.


Why can't you agree with any of it? What did I say that is exactly wrong?

=/= is not equal to. Last year's Felton was a disaster. He played the season fat and out of shape...he even admitted that.
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Post#105 » by Dr. Detfink » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:41 pm

moabu08 wrote:Im surprised the lakers arent willing to try it out with just Nash Kobe Pau and Bynum.


While Bynum isn't on Rondo territory for a punk, he's approaching a level of discourse where Kobe would like a guy who has his own game and yet, doesn't want to be the alpha male.

Dwight is so fake, he fits PERFECTLY in LA
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Post#106 » by DLTGWH » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:41 pm

barborous wrote:Agreed... Sixers are in general in pretty bad shape right now, especially at PG. Jrue is one of the worst starters in the league.


Well than someone better inform his agent... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jrue Holiday Wants a Max Contract to Stay in Philadelphia

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/07/jrue-holiday-wants-a-max-contract-to-stay-in-philadelphia
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Post#107 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:49 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Whoever they start at PF, be it Moultrie, Hawes, or Young, that team will have issues with spacing.

Memphis has a star at SF who would draw defensive attention and two stars in the post. The defense was focused on those guys as it was, which made it easier for a player like Allen to slash -- which is what he did best. Conley, I believe, also improved his outside shot last year a good amount.

As for our situation -- last year Felton =/= this year Felton...I thought everyone agreed on that no matter how much he/she despised him. As for Brewer, he is a hard slasher and does it very well. With the defensive attention focused on Melo and Amar'e (with Chandler cutting to the basket on pick and rolls), he will be able to move freely.

The 6ers would have one guy to demand attention - Bynum. No wing scorer...just Bynum (who is a semi-black hole and isn't a great passer out of the post, either).


I can't agree with any of this... sorry.

Turner and Holiday haven't even reached their peak.. and both can score from their positions.

And I'm sorry but what does =/= mean? If that's the universal symbol for "forget what Ray Felton did last year" then I can't agree with that either.

I'm sure Collins is well versed on whether or not he needs a PF to help create spacing on the court...

And we've already seen our frontline struggle with "spacing" in relation to the part of the court that is more valuable than the 3pt line.

I'm not seeing anyway if the Sixers add Bynum how they're not a better team.


Why can't you agree with any of it? What did I say that is exactly wrong?

=/= is not equal to. Last year's Felton was a disaster. He played the season fat and out of shape...he even admitted that.


Man... you can't even begin to give a guy the benefit of the doubt when you're excuse for his poor play is he was fat and out of shape. The dude was getting payed to play and to stay in shape. That type of situation has never turned out good in the NBA.

And like I said I'll give Collins the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how he uses his 4 man in relation to spacing.

Bynum in the post won't draw attention from defenses even before he touches the ball enough for Turner who handles the ball better than Gay to play make and score?

You said they wouldn't have any wing scorers... Turner and Holiday can't score from the wing?

You guys start out by saying teams can just play a zone against Philly to beat them... I say that's not true... any justifications are futile from that point on from my point of view.

I'm not buying any of that zone stuff or spacing stuff... my fault. They flat out become a better team if they add Bynum for Igoudala, period.
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Post#108 » by [GR] » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:56 pm

Plus people talking zone: Aside from the Mavs, no team in this league runs zone frequently. If teams didn't zone the Lakers, with their terrible 3 pt shooters, why would they zone the Sixers?
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Post#109 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:56 pm

I just think a lot of things affected Felton last year (none of them are excusable, btw). Like you said, he's a professional. I just trust that he will bounce back this year and will be solid, not great, but solid.

We'll see with Collins. IIRC, Philly fans started not to like him last year and weren't there rumors about the team tuning him out? *could be mistaken*

Bynum will draw attention, but not enough to completely disrupt a defense. Also, those guys may be able to score from the perimeter, but they are not perimeter scorers -- someone you can give the ball to and tell him to just go and score while taking the attention away from other players.

Hey, you don't need to buy into what I'm saying / the zone part...that's cool with me.
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Post#110 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:56 pm

[GR] wrote:Plus people talking zone: Aside from the Mavs, no team in this league runs zone frequently. If teams didn't zone the Lakers, with their terrible 3 pt shooters, why would they zone the Sixers?


I tried that one GR... I know for damn sure we ain't playing a zone... :lol:
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Post#111 » by I_Love_NYK » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:00 pm

[GR] wrote:Plus people talking zone: Aside from the Mavs, no team in this league runs zone frequently. If teams didn't zone the Lakers, with their terrible 3 pt shooters, why would they zone the Sixers?



Steve Nash and Jamison can hit the three.
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Post#112 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:05 pm

I_Love_NYK wrote:
[GR] wrote:Plus people talking zone: Aside from the Mavs, no team in this league runs zone frequently. If teams didn't zone the Lakers, with their terrible 3 pt shooters, why would they zone the Sixers?



Steve Nash and Jamison can hit the three.


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Post#113 » by UnderdogKnicks » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:18 pm

Antawn Jamison sucks now, I'm pretty sure every1 would want him to shoot compare to his teammates.
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Post#114 » by ezmoney707 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:21 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:I just think a lot of things affected Felton last year (none of them are excusable, btw). Like you said, he's a professional. I just trust that he will bounce back this year and will be solid, not great, but solid.

We'll see with Collins. IIRC, Philly fans started not to like him last year and weren't there rumors about the team tuning him out? *could be mistaken*

Bynum will draw attention, but not enough to completely disrupt a defense. Also, those guys may be able to score from the perimeter, but they are not perimeter scorers -- someone you can give the ball to and tell him to just go and score while taking the attention away from other players.

Hey, you don't need to buy into what I'm saying / the zone part...that's cool with me.

All of what you said is true. Philly doesn't have any consistent perimeter scoring. Evan Turner could be that scorer they need, but if his shaky history with coach Collins to his inconsistent up and down play Philly will still struggle to score from the guard and wing spots. The team also lacks consistent 3 point shooting. You can survive for the most part without a top perimeter scorer if you a have a good post presence's like Bynum, but you can't lack at the 3 the ball too.
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Post#115 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:50 pm

ezmoney707 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:I just think a lot of things affected Felton last year (none of them are excusable, btw). Like you said, he's a professional. I just trust that he will bounce back this year and will be solid, not great, but solid.

We'll see with Collins. IIRC, Philly fans started not to like him last year and weren't there rumors about the team tuning him out? *could be mistaken*

Bynum will draw attention, but not enough to completely disrupt a defense. Also, those guys may be able to score from the perimeter, but they are not perimeter scorers -- someone you can give the ball to and tell him to just go and score while taking the attention away from other players.

Hey, you don't need to buy into what I'm saying / the zone part...that's cool with me.

All of what you said is true. Philly doesn't have any consistent perimeter scoring. Evan Turner could be that scorer they need, but if his shaky history with coach Collins to his inconsistent up and down play Philly will still struggle to score from the guard and wing spots. The team also lacks consistent 3 point shooting. You can survive for the most part without a top perimeter scorer if you a have a good post presence's like Bynum, but you can't lack at the 3 the ball too.


Just because you agree with it don't make it true... :lol:
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Post#116 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:54 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
ezmoney707 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:I just think a lot of things affected Felton last year (none of them are excusable, btw). Like you said, he's a professional. I just trust that he will bounce back this year and will be solid, not great, but solid.

We'll see with Collins. IIRC, Philly fans started not to like him last year and weren't there rumors about the team tuning him out? *could be mistaken*

Bynum will draw attention, but not enough to completely disrupt a defense. Also, those guys may be able to score from the perimeter, but they are not perimeter scorers -- someone you can give the ball to and tell him to just go and score while taking the attention away from other players.

Hey, you don't need to buy into what I'm saying / the zone part...that's cool with me.

All of what you said is true. Philly doesn't have any consistent perimeter scoring. Evan Turner could be that scorer they need, but if his shaky history with coach Collins to his inconsistent up and down play Philly will still struggle to score from the guard and wing spots. The team also lacks consistent 3 point shooting. You can survive for the most part without a top perimeter scorer if you a have a good post presence's like Bynum, but you can't lack at the 3 the ball too.


Just because you agree with it don't make it true... :lol:


And just because you don't agree doesn't make it not true. :thumbsup:
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Post#117 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:58 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
And just because you don't agree doesn't make it not true. :thumbsup:


Except I didn't say anything I said was truth.. I just said I didn't agree with you... :thumbsup: :lol:
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Post#118 » by ezmoney707 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 9:59 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
ezmoney707 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:I just think a lot of things affected Felton last year (none of them are excusable, btw). Like you said, he's a professional. I just trust that he will bounce back this year and will be solid, not great, but solid.

We'll see with Collins. IIRC, Philly fans started not to like him last year and weren't there rumors about the team tuning him out? *could be mistaken*

Bynum will draw attention, but not enough to completely disrupt a defense. Also, those guys may be able to score from the perimeter, but they are not perimeter scorers -- someone you can give the ball to and tell him to just go and score while taking the attention away from other players.

Hey, you don't need to buy into what I'm saying / the zone part...that's cool with me.

All of what you said is true. Philly doesn't have any consistent perimeter scoring. Evan Turner could be that scorer they need, but if his shaky history with coach Collins to his inconsistent up and down play Philly will still struggle to score from the guard and wing spots. The team also lacks consistent 3 point shooting. You can survive for the most part without a top perimeter scorer if you a have a good post presence's like Bynum, but you can't lack at the 3 the ball too.


Just because you agree with it don't make it true... :lol:

Please tells us where we are wrong in our assessment of the team? My best friend is a Sixer fan. I watch them as if their my second team because of him. So please tell me where i'm wrong with my assessment of the team. The fans didn't like Collins last season, Jrue Holiday regressed as a player and is starting to look more and like a SG being forced to play PG, Collins/Turner have a rocky relationship, the lack 3pt shooting, struggle to score, but have a good team defense. So please tell me where i'm wrong with my assessment :D
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Post#119 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:02 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
And just because you don't agree doesn't make it not true. :thumbsup:


Except I didn't say anything I said was truth.. I just said I didn't agree with you... :thumbsup: :lol:


Touche, sir...touche. :lol:
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Post#120 » by ibraheim718 » Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:11 pm

Speaking of Jrue did any of you guys know that his girl is Lauren Chaney from the Olympic soccer team?

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