Melo is a great passer

johnnywishbone · Post #121 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:09 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Who's the third, I only see two in the example.

The thread is about Melo, no?

Post #122 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:11 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Who's the third, I only see two in the example.

The thread is about Melo, no?

The poster you quoted was talking about even SG don't rack rack up 5 dimes often.

But why compare Jordan and Kobe to Melo?

nobody in the right frame of mind holds that standard for Melo.

johnnywishbone · Post #123 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:11 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:No sh*t, Melo isn't as good as MJ or Kobe.

@Thugger, 3rd=Melo.

A. I thought you were done?
B. We are talking championship for this team in the next three years. It's useful to look at past champs to see where you have to set the bar.

bronxknicksfan1 · Post #124 » by **bronxknicksfan1** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:12 pm

So Melo is supposed to become MJ or prime Kobe? Gotcha.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #125 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:12 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Who's the third, I only see two in the example.

The thread is about Melo, no?

The poster you quoted was talking about even SG don't rack rack up 5 dimes often.

But why compare Jordan and Kobe to Melo?

nobody in the right frame of mind holds that standard for Melo.

Anything to shoot down Melo, fam. You should know this by now.

johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:No sh*t, Melo isn't as good as MJ or Kobe.

@Thugger, 3rd=Melo.

A. I thought you were done?
B. We are talking championship for this team in the next three years. It's useful to look at past champs to see where you have to set the bar.

So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

Post #126 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:16 pm

Melo might as well retire if that's the standard he has to reach.

johnnywishbone · Post #127 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:17 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

bronxknicksfan1 · Post #128 » by **bronxknicksfan1** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:17 pm

If you want to look at a past champion to set the bar for a SF, look no further than Paul Pierce, whom many have already compared Melo to. You're being completely ridiculous if you're expecting Melo to perform as if he were a top 10 GOAT.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #129 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:19 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

But he's never going to be those players. You might as well give him a fighting chance and compare him to players that are similar to him.

Post #130 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:21 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

It's not sensitivity, it's being realistic, and actually insulting to a conversation.

Melo isn't in those guys leagues, but they aren't the only champions either.

johnnywishbone · Post #131 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:26 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

But he's never going to be those players. You might as well give him a fighting chance and compare him to players that are similar to him.

I think he can be as good as Kobe. But his main problem to me is that he can't see himself. He gets asked a question about being selfish and he blames Linsanity.

Everybody get criticized - it's the nature of the game. But the best are able to hear the criticisms and learn from it.

btw... what NBA champion should we be comparing him to?

johnnywishbone · Post #132 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:27 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
So the bar is set at two of the greatest of all times?

I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

It's not sensitivity, it's being realistic, and actually insulting to a conversation.

Melo isn't in those guys leagues, but they aren't the only champions either.

You guys insult me and then when I throw it back at you - you cry foul. AKA too sensitive.

johnnywishbone · Post #133 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:29 pm

btw...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... edw01.html

Or is he too good to compare to?

bronxknicksfan1 · Post #134 » by **bronxknicksfan1** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:29 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
btw... what NBA champion should we be comparing him to?

If you want to look at a past champion to set the bar for a SF, look no further than Paul Pierce, whom many have already compared Melo to.

Post #135 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:31 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
I can put up stats for Lebron, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson et al... If you are going to be an NBA champion you are going to be the best. That's the way it works.

For Carmelo to achieve that he has to become better - I don't get how that is such a dig. Are you guys really this **** sensitive?

It's not sensitivity, it's being realistic, and actually insulting to a conversation.

Melo isn't in those guys leagues, but they aren't the only champions either.

You guys insult me and then when I throw it back at you - you cry foul. AKA too sensitive.

Sensitive towards what? Comparing Melo to Jordan actually shows how stupid this board gets.

Post #136 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:32 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:btw...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... edw01.html

Or is he too good to compare to?

Is Melo playing the guard position?

johnnywishbone · Post #137 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:37 pm

bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
btw... what NBA champion should we be comparing him to?

If you want to look at a past champion to set the bar for a SF, look no further than Paul Pierce, whom many have already compared Melo to.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... cpa01.html

When he won the championship he averaged 4.5 assists a game and only took 14 fga. While Melo is close to that, in terms of assists, he would still need to improve.

But I think Melo should set his ceiling higher than Paul Pierce.

Post #138 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:38 pm

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You too wet behind the ears to feel the emotions you author
Under scrutiny, you allow puberty
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your opinions are delusions,..accusing others of collusion
Sitting in your mothers seat doing
what your drunk pops was influencing
But you ignore it like teenagers with short pubic hairs

johnnywishbone · Post #139 » by **johnnywishbone** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:38 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:btw...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... edw01.html

Or is he too good to compare to?

Is Melo playing the guard position?

It's an answer to a direct question - how many shooting guards average 5 assists?

Post #140 » by **Thugger HBC** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:40 pm

johnnywishbone wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:btw...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... edw01.html

Or is he too good to compare to?

Is Melo playing the guard position?

It's an answer to a direct question - how many shooting guards average 5 assists?

You might wanna go back and read it, that was hardly a question. :lol: