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Re: OT: Dwight A Laker Soon? [Woj] 

Post#181 » by knicksnyk » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:14 am

3StarburyAriza21 wrote:Am I the only one that would much rather have Pau + Bynum than just Dwight (coming off back surgery)?


No you are not. I think Lakers could go really far with Pau and Bynum Nash and Kobe. Having Howard Nash Kobe is good to but i feel that is less wins than the first option. I guess with Howard, you know after Nash and Kobe retire you can build around him. But i dunno.
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Post#182 » by johnnywishbone » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:14 am

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3StarburyAriza21 wrote:Am I the only one that would much rather have Pau + Bynum than just Dwight (coming off back surgery)?


I agree, Lakers should keep what they've got

Nash will do wonders for Gasol & Bynum


IMO, Dwight Howard is top 3 player in the league. He is the perfect cornerstone for any franchise.

Gasol is getting old and Bynum is good but he is not Dwight Howard.
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Re: OT: Dwight A Laker Soon? [Woj] 

Post#183 » by GONYK » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:17 am

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3StarburyAriza21 wrote:Am I the only one that would much rather have Pau + Bynum than just Dwight (coming off back surgery)?


I agree, Lakers should keep what they've got

Nash will do wonders for Gasol & Bynum


IMO, Dwight Howard is top 3 player in the league. He is the perfect cornerstone for any franchise.

Gasol is getting old and Bynum is good but he is not Dwight Howard.


Dwight Howard alone is not better than both Bynum and Gasol
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Post#184 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:17 am

LA can't give out 35 mil and only take back 20.

If they trade Pau too, turk is going as well.
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Post#185 » by knicksnyk » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:17 am

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Still trying to follow up on the Howard thing. Of the configurations I heard, one doesn't make sense for the Lakers, the other doesn't make
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Larry Coon@LarryCoon
...sense for the Magic. Magic not going to do a deal if there's a better one on the table with Houston. Likewise, Lakers not going to do
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Larry Coon@LarryCoon
...a deal if they're better off standing pat, and I say this with full realization that they'd be saving money in the deal.
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Momotaros@Momotaros_KP 9 Aug 12
@LarryCoon Howard already said he wont play for the Rockets.
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@Momotaros_KP Yet the Rockets still have a deal on the table for him. If it's better than what they get from this deal (and it is), then
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@LarryCoon Howard already said he wont play for the Rockets.
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@Momotaros_KP ...the Magic would take the Rockets deal.
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Anthony Irwin@AFIrwin1286 9 Aug 12
@LarryCoon even if (as @RicBucher reported) Pau has been informed he's not in deal?
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@AFIrwin1286 That's the scenario that doesn't make sense for the Magic. If Bynum goes to Philly, what are they getting for Dwight?
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Post#186 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:21 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Denver gets there star in Iggy.

Denver and Philly should have enough picks to satisfy the Magic, everything things else is just matching up salaries.

Denver supposedly is shelling out Affalo and Al so that's about 14 mil, which is a few hundred grand away from Iggy.

Philly gets Bynum which equals out Iggy.

Lakers Get Dwight while dumping Bynum on equal money to Philly.

Doesn't matter where the players move to as long as the teams are matching up somehow.

For Orlando if the don't get Pau it's just a straight salary dump with a large TPe? (not sure about TPE)


who has cap space ? a tpe doesn't work. why the hell would they take on al and affalo if they want to jettison contracts. denver's picks aren't gonna be worth anything much.

so what will they get in the end ? 2 first round picks from philly. a late first from denver. and al and affalo. that is absolutely terrible.
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Post#187 » by johnnywishbone » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:21 am

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Dwight Howard alone is not better than both Bynum and Gasol


I think the Lakers are the worst offenders when it comes to the salary cap - and Bynum is up for a new contract.

Plus look at the long term. Even after Nash's contract runs out and Kobe retires Howard will still be young. At that point Gasol will be 35.
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Post#188 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:22 am

Pretty sure Stephen a said the nets deal was done
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Post#189 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:23 am

god shammgod wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Denver gets there star in Iggy.

Denver and Philly should have enough picks to satisfy the Magic, everything things else is just matching up salaries.

Denver supposedly is shelling out Affalo and Al so that's about 14 mil, which is a few hundred grand away from Iggy.

Philly gets Bynum which equals out Iggy.

Lakers Get Dwight while dumping Bynum on equal money to Philly.

Doesn't matter where the players move to as long as the teams are matching up somehow.

For Orlando if the don't get Pau it's just a straight salary dump with a large TPe? (not sure about TPE)


orlando doesn't have cap space. a tpe doesn't work. why the hell would they take on al and affalo if they want to jettison contracts. denver's picks aren't gonna be worth anything much.

so what will they get in the end ? 2 first round picks from philly. a late first from denver. and al and affalo. that is absolutely terrible.

Al is going to LA.

Maybe Orlando just wants a firesale, and really just want to get away from being apart of Dwight.

LA has been willing to take him unextended, I'm sure they can sell him along the ride.
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Post#190 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:25 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Denver gets there star in Iggy.

Denver and Philly should have enough picks to satisfy the Magic, everything things else is just matching up salaries.

Denver supposedly is shelling out Affalo and Al so that's about 14 mil, which is a few hundred grand away from Iggy.

Philly gets Bynum which equals out Iggy.

Lakers Get Dwight while dumping Bynum on equal money to Philly.

Doesn't matter where the players move to as long as the teams are matching up somehow.

For Orlando if the don't get Pau it's just a straight salary dump with a large TPe? (not sure about TPE)


orlando doesn't have cap space. a tpe doesn't work. why the hell would they take on al and affalo if they want to jettison contracts. denver's picks aren't gonna be worth anything much.

so what will they get in the end ? 2 first round picks from philly. a late first from denver. and al and affalo. that is absolutely terrible.

Al is going to LA.

Maybe Orlando just wants a firesale, and really just want to get away from being apart of Dwight.

LA has been willing to take him unextended, I'm sure they can sell him along the ride.


that deal was with gasol. without gasol going to orlando, i don't see how this works or what the point for orlando is. if they're trading dwight and j-rich, they have to take that much in salaries back.
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Post#191 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:26 am

god shammgod wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[quote="Thugger HBC"]
Denver gets there star in Iggy.

Denver and Philly should have enough picks to satisfy the Magic, everything things else is just matching up salaries.

Denver supposedly is shelling out Affalo and Al so that's about 14 mil, which is a few hundred grand away from Iggy.

Philly gets Bynum which equals out Iggy.

Lakers Get Dwight while dumping Bynum on equal money to Philly.

Doesn't matter where the players move to as long as the teams are matching up somehow.

For Orlando if the don't get Pau it's just a straight salary dump with a large TPe? (not sure about TPE)


orlando doesn't have cap space. a tpe doesn't work. why the hell would they take on al and affalo if they want to jettison contracts. denver's picks aren't gonna be worth anything much.

so what will they get in the end ? 2 first round picks from philly. a late first from denver. and al and affalo. that is absolutely terrible.

Al is going to LA.

Maybe Orlando just wants a firesale, and really just want to get away from being apart of Dwight.

LA has been willing to take him unextended, I'm sure they can sell him along the ride.


that deal was with gasol. without gasol going to orlando, i don't see how this works or what the point for orlando is. if they're trading dwight and j-rich, they have to take that much in salaries back.[/quote]

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Post#192 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:27 am

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Dwight Howard alone is not better than both Bynum and Gasol


I think the Lakers are the worst offenders when it comes to the salary cap - and Bynum is up for a new contract.

Plus look at the long term. Even after Nash's contract runs out and Kobe retires Howard will still be young. At that point Gasol will be 35.

The drop off from Dwight to Bynum is not that much when comparing centers, which the league has so few of.

Plus the Lakers hardly ever make deal looking into the future.

Really can't just look at Dwight being a top 5 player so the deal must be done.
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Post#193 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:30 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
GS whenever a deal smells weird, it's usually a hustle.


something is definitely wrong with this whole scenario. it don't make sense.
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Post#194 » by richardhutnik » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:33 am

Mr_Perfect wrote:Why do all these All-Star teams form the minute we're good again? 10 year of awfulness and there wasn't this type of talent stacked on one team before. Now we're about to get 2 powerhouse teams (Lakers and Heat) and we will be nowhere close to their standard.


Free agent bonanza summer happen every so often. It so happened that the Heat got players the same season the Knicks did. All teams went this way. And the Lakers are, well, the Lakers.
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Post#195 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:33 am

god shammgod wrote:that deal was with gasol. without gasol going to orlando, i don't see how this works or what the point for orlando is. if they're trading dwight and j-rich, they have to take that much in salaries back.

LA up to it's usually team fleecing. :lol:

Let's just say all of the rumors are true.

Does Orlando take over paid newly extended players from the Nets........not likely.

Is Houston serious about taking an unextended Dwight....not likely, and they know he would walk.

Cavs just want Bynum no matter what they fork over in picks, and they have alot of them.

LA is the only team that can afford to take an unextended Dwight.

At least the Magic would get a boatload of picks.
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Post#196 » by johnnywishbone » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:34 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Dwight Howard alone is not better than both Bynum and Gasol


I think the Lakers are the worst offenders when it comes to the salary cap - and Bynum is up for a new contract.

Plus look at the long term. Even after Nash's contract runs out and Kobe retires Howard will still be young. At that point Gasol will be 35.

The drop off from Dwight to Bynum is not that much when comparing centers, which the league has so few of.

Plus the Lakers hardly ever make deal looking into the future.

Really can't just look at Dwight being a top 5 player so the deal must be done.


I admit prejudice. Given the opportunity to start a team with any player in the league I'd take Dwight Howard even over Lebron (well one or the other).
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Post#197 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:34 am

god shammgod wrote:
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something is definitely wrong with this whole scenario. it don't make sense.

When has a deal involving LA made sense for anyone but LA?

If the Lakers keep Pau, they win.
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Post#198 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:36 am

johnnywishbone wrote:I admit prejudice. Given the opportunity to start a team with any player in the league I'd take Dwight Howard even over Lebron (well one or the other).

That's fine, but LA rarely does rebuilds, they retool, and they rarely come upside down on any trade.
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Post#199 » by johnnywishbone » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:38 am

With or without Pau Gasol a Lakers team with Kobe, WP and D12 would be a hell of a defensive team.
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Post#200 » by god shammgod » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:40 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
GS whenever a deal smells weird, it's usually a hustle.


something is definitely wrong with this whole scenario. it don't make sense.

When has a deal involving LA made sense for anyone but LA?

If the Lakers keep Pau, they win.


i'm just amazed that orlando is just going to give in like this.

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