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Re: Better rethink the 'no center' philosophy... 

Post#21 » by LEIF » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:08 am

if educated Heat fans have learned anything it is that CHEMISTRY CANNOT be underestimated. I will take our core, who has built unbelievable amounts of trust and chemistry over anybody.

and we have the best player on planet Earth.

man i Cant wait for the Finals if matchup actually happens.
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Post#22 » by Riled Up » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:09 am

We are going to struggle for rebounds vs the Lakers and it will be difficult for us to guard Gasol and Howard. Jordan Hill and Jamison coming off the bench is an incredible.

I'm anxious to see who we sign or if we make a move before the season starts.

Having said all f that, we're still the best team in the NBA.
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Post#23 » by Slot Machine » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:09 am

One thing I still can't get over is how the Lakers pulled this off without having to give up Pau, you just have to tip your hat to Mitch and wonder what the F Hennigan is thinking.
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Post#24 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:11 am

Told you guys.

Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.

Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?
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Post#25 » by Carlos4Heat » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:12 am

Chemistry is one thing,but you can't teach size,and the Lakers have it in abundance.We'll see if the Heat choose to stand pat,or counter by getting Blatche or some other quality Center,via trade.The plot thickens...
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Post#26 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:13 am

Chalm Down Bro wrote:One thing I still can't get over is how the Lakers pulled this off without having to give up Pau, you just have to tip your hat to Mitch and wonder what the F Hennigan is thinking.


Hennigan turned down the Nets offer which was much better than this.

He's a straight up loser.
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Post#27 » by LEIF » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:16 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:Told you guys.

Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.

Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?



Camby and Hill DOES NOT look better then Ray Ray. we will make THEM adjust to us. pull D12 out of the paint with CB and force them to figure out a way to guard Lebron when he shifts to the 4 spot. just watch. all that "we need a center" crap was screamed when we met Indiana and OKC. and Lebron neutralized all of it. and Wade will be healthy again. it will be a highly competitive GREAT matchup that ANYONE can win but I will take my chances with our BIg 3 along with the other key core guys.
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Post#28 » by LEIF » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:16 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:Told you guys.

Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.

Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?



Camby and Hill DOES NOT look better then Ray Ray. we will make THEM adjust to us. pull D12 out of the paint with CB and force them to figure out a way to guard Lebron when he shifts to the 4 spot. just watch. all that "we need a center" crap was screamed when we met Indiana and OKC. and Lebron neutralized all of it. and Wade will be healthy again. it will be a highly competitive GREAT matchup that ANYONE can win but I will take my chances with our BIg 3 along with the other key core guys.
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Post#29 » by Carlos4Heat » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:17 am

Chalm Down Bro wrote:One thing I still can't get over is how the Lakers pulled this off without having to give up Pau, you just have to tip your hat to Mitch and wonder what the F Hennigan is thinking.


The Lakers have benefited from some of the shadiest trades,in Basketball history..
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Post#30 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:20 am

Carlos4Heat wrote:
Chalm Down Bro wrote:One thing I still can't get over is how the Lakers pulled this off without having to give up Pau, you just have to tip your hat to Mitch and wonder what the F Hennigan is thinking.


The Lakers have benefited from some of the shadiest trades,in Basketball history..


Yep. I am convinced that they do backroom deals and promises. They give up money or something behind the scenes..... in exchange for a lopsided trade.

The only way this strategy works is if the team giving up their superstar doesn't care if it's lopsided because they are going to rebuild.

So the Lakers have to prey on teams like that.

Who have their trade partners been? Steve Nash, Suns going into rebuild. Pau Gasol, Grizzlies going into rebuild. Now Howard.
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Post#31 » by Slot Machine » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:22 am

Carlos4Heat wrote:
Chalm Down Bro wrote:One thing I still can't get over is how the Lakers pulled this off without having to give up Pau, you just have to tip your hat to Mitch and wonder what the F Hennigan is thinking.


The Lakers have benefited from some of the shadiest trades,in Basketball history..

Yep, this post on the GB pretty much sums it up:
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Post#32 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:23 am

twix2500 wrote:Remember we had problems with Jason Kidd and Tyson Chandler in Dallas. Well Nash and Howard is Kid and Tyson on steroids.


son, the Lakers are the favorites to win it all now. If Howard is healthy, it's going to happen.

Kobe is old and overrated nowadays though, and Steve Nash suffers from back issues and is no longer with the PHX medical staff.... so there's still hope.........

but this is bad. We've got Haslem and Bosh and LBJ as our frontcourt. We are screwed.
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Post#33 » by Heat11114 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:23 am

We've never had a real center ever since the Shaq days and Dwight's never really given us trouble offensively. He has 1 30 point game in his career against us and 3 25 point games. In 23 of 32 games he's been held under 20.
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Post#34 » by diablerouge » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:26 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:Told you guys.

Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.

Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?

1. no it doesn't.
2. miami actually tried to get marcus camby, he didn't want the vet min.
3. lakers have to come out of the west first.
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Post#35 » by diablerouge » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:28 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Remember we had problems with Jason Kidd and Tyson Chandler in Dallas. Well Nash and Howard is Kid and Tyson on steroids.


son, the Lakers are the favorites to win it all now. If Howard is healthy, it's going to happen.

Kobe is old and overrated nowadays though, and Steve Nash suffers from back issues and is no longer with the PHX medical staff.... so there's still hope.........

but this is bad. We've got Haslem and Bosh and LBJ as our frontcourt. We are screwed.

screwed? we have the best basketball player in the world. lakers will have offensive issues to work through like we did in our first year. where/when his pau going to get touches as a 4th option playing outside and not on the block? will kobe let nash handle the ball? will dwight be ok rebounding kobe's misses (there was some resistance to that)?
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Post#36 » by semi-sentient » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:30 am

WadeInTheWater wrote:Lakers can't stop OKC let alone the Heat, why are some of you worrying?


The Lakers/Thunder series was pretty close, so I wouldn't say that they can't beat them with a much improved roster.

Steve Nash is a massive upgrade and gives the Lakers something that they sorely needed: outside shooting and play-making. That alone could have been enough to push them over the top. Keep in mind that Sessions pee'd all over himself against the Thunder and the series was still close. The Lakers also threw several games away late, and again that goes back to not having anyone that can consistently hit shots or create outside of Kobe.

Now add Howard to the mix who is a considerable upgrade over Bynum defensively as well as being more impactful offensively? The Lakers should be able to take out the Thunder this time around given that they've addressed two of their biggest needs.

I know that Nash is not a very good defensive player, but Sessions and Blake are just as bad. The difference is that at least Howard is there to cleanup when WB gets inside the lane.


I think we'd all be fortunate to see two "super" teams meeting in the NBA Finals. It's going to be a great series to watch given all the star power -- assuming both teams get there, and especially assuming that this deal actually goes through.
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Post#37 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:30 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:Told you guys.

Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.

Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?

1. no it doesn't.
2. miami actually tried to get marcus camby, he didn't want the vet min.
3. lakers have to come out of the west first.


Marcus Camby + Grant Hill

Where do you see Ray Allen's name there? Not there right? That means the mini-MLE would have gone to Camby instead, and he was interested in that. Why do I have to explain this to you?
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Post#38 » by Slot Machine » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:32 am

Heat11114 wrote:We've never had a real center ever since the Shaq days and Dwight's never really given us trouble offensively. He has 1 30 point game in his career against us and 3 25 point games. In 23 of 32 games he's been held under 20.

It's really been his rebounding that kills us.
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Post#39 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:33 am

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Post#40 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:36 am

semi-sentient wrote:
WadeInTheWater wrote:Lakers can't stop OKC let alone the Heat, why are some of you worrying?


The Lakers/Thunder series was pretty close, so I wouldn't say that they can't beat them with a much improved roster.

Steve Nash is a massive upgrade and gives the Lakers something that they sorely needed: outside shooting and play-making. That alone could have been enough to push them over the top. Keep in mind that Sessions pee'd all over himself against the Thunder and the series was still close. The Lakers also threw several games away late, and again that goes back to not having anyone that can consistently hit shots or create outside of Kobe.

Now add Howard to the mix who is a considerable upgrade over Bynum defensively as well as being more impactful offensively? The Lakers should be able to take out the Thunder this time around given that they've addressed two of their biggest needs.

I know that Nash is not a very good defensive player, but Sessions and Blake are just as bad. The difference is that at least Howard is there to cleanup when WB gets inside the lane.


I think we'd all be fortunate to see two "super" teams meeting in the NBA Finals. It's going to be a great series to watch given all the star power -- assuming both teams get there, and especially assuming that this deal actually goes through.


No, we'd all not be fortunate.

I am sick and tired of the Lakers super teams. They have been to the Finals how many times now since 2000? Enough. Send them to the lottery to rebuild for a few years. I am tired of looking at them.

and now Kobe gets to win another finals MVP by standing on the back of once again another all-star big man and I get to hear how overrated Kobe is again. It's just not fun. We need new blood.

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