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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#201 » by Big A All Day » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:02 pm

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Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Dwight deal not done, league sources say.



1st time ever i hope...... Schmitz is right
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Post#202 » by OrlandO » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

magic04life wrote:Colin Cowherd is saying that Nash going to the Lakers is a bigger improvement for LA than Dwight.

Saying Dwight is overrated

That guy has a lot of dumb opinions... he only focuses on his narrow view of the argument and ignores the other side.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#203 » by arkknight1988 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

jonskilly wrote:Stephen A: "Dwight Howard was literally jumping up and down acting like a child when he found out he was going to be a Laker"

he is a child. a little spoiled b*tch one at that
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#204 » by bigmoe1952 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:These future 1st rounders truly suck. Magic basically traded Dwight for Harkless (15th pick in draft), Nikola Vucevic (16th pick in draft) and Aflalo (27th pick in draft) with a few future first rounders that will be in the 20's about 3-5 years from now. And, only Aflalo is a legit starter.

Hennigan is officially, a freaking idiot. What a dumbass! Magic would be better off keeping Dwight for the year and making a splash in 2013. Or at least, waiting for a better offer at the trade deadline.

Magic didn't even get One Single All-Star for the most dominate Center on the planet. A travesty in modern sports history.

The Magic are now the laughing stock of the entire NBA and no superstar and not many all-stars should ever consider joining this team.

Here is your future, Magic fans, a lifetime of mediocrity. This is what you get when you panic and give in to Stern and Dwight Howard.


You got that right, MoFo. But there will still be the "in Henny we trust" gang out there. I just DO NOT believe we could not have done better with Houston. Even if half of what Woj said is true, that's still a better deal.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#205 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:I have a lot of problems with this deal.

We wanted three thing s in this deal.

1) Young players on good contracts (Harkness and Vuvecic). Both players might not ban out.

2) Good Draft Picks (All will be late teens to late first round)

3) Sched contracts (Turkoglu is staying and taking on Afflalo's big deal)

Ohh and were going to watch Dwight Howard on a Superteam in l.A.

De ja vu.

This is a terrible deal for the Magic.

Absolutely. Not sure I like any of the young guys coming to us and I was hoping we could at the very least get 1 potential lottery pick. And what's the point of Harrington?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#206 » by MagicFan41 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

I've heard these $20mil in space figures thrown around for summer 2014, but does anybody know if that's right? Seems like we would have much more than that. Let us assume Jameer's 3rd year is a team option (who knows, but I wouldn't at all be surprised)...

Who do we really have on the payroll after that summer?

Afflalo: $7.75
BBD: $6.6
Harrington: $3.8 guaranteed

A few rookies at like $1-$2mil each?

That's like $40mil in capspace!

Real question is what potential big name free agents are around that summer?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#207 » by magicman123 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

looks like denver gets mcroberts expiring deal as well
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Post#208 » by Ahmadab » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

Watch Orlando slowly back out of this and trade with Houston. lol
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Post#209 » by thelead » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:watch this crap not even happen.

We would only be so lucky
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#210 » by KingRobb02 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm

Great WhiteHope wrote:I am excited about this trade... especially since we kiss Duhon goodbye!

We get some young coachable talent that we can mold, draft picks (which I feel for wheeling and dealing) and get rid of some bad contracts! Its a WIN!

People are forgetting that Dwight had back surgery! That isn't a routine operation on any means. I honestly believe he won't be a factor like he was in Orlando on the Lakers. So it was let him walk for nothing or get something back instead.

Houston was offering some of the parts not all that was reported.

Rudolph is mad because his friend Dwight didn't get his wish to play with the NETS and I love it!

Worst case scenario, Dwight fails the physical, trade is called off and he sits on our bench all season while no one wants to trade anything of value for him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#211 » by contract » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:04 pm

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RickB-Orlando wrote: I guess we got the next best in Afflalo, though I am not so sure he's that much better than JRich to be honest.


Afflalo easily better than JRich.

He better be ... he's more expensive.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#212 » by silent1900 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:04 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Dwight deal not done, league sources say.



Schmitz, and the words 'Magic Insider' should never be associated with one another.

That being said, this deal blowing up at the last second would likely result in the stroke-related deaths of several members of this board.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#213 » by ChildishGambino » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:04 pm

Great WhiteHope wrote:I am excited about this trade... especially since we kiss Duhon goodbye!

We get some young coachable talent that we can mold, draft picks (which I feel for wheeling and dealing) and get rid of some bad contracts! Its a WIN!

People are forgetting that Dwight had back surgery! That isn't a routine operation on any means. I honestly believe he won't be a factor like he was in Orlando on the Lakers. So it was let him walk for nothing or get something back instead.

Houston was offering some of the parts not all that was reported.

Rudolph is mad because his friend Dwight didn't get his wish to play with the NETS and I love it!

pretty sure Dwight had outpatient surgery...which means he was in and out the same day....not really that extensive......Fathers friend had a similar kind of surgery and he was out and about within a month and a half taking business trips and all that and he's not near the physical specimen Dwight is...so it's kinda surprising to me that Dwight's back is allegedly still bothering him.....i might be wrong though but i'm pretty sure it was outpatient surgery.....
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#214 » by thelead » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:05 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:I've heard these $20mil in space figures thrown around for summer 2014, but does anybody know if that's right? Seems like we would have much more than that. Let us assume Jameer's 3rd year is a team option (who knows, but I wouldn't at all be surprised)...

Who do we really have on the payroll after that summer?

Afflalo: $7.75
BBD: $6.6
Harrington: $3.8 guaranteed

A few rookies at like $1-$2mil each?

That's like $40mil in capspace!

Real question is what potential big name free agents are around that summer?


Cap space means nothing for this team right now. What superstar is going to want to come into a rebuild situation?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#215 » by Def Swami » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:06 pm

There's no way we trade with Philly and Denver and don't end up with one of Turner, Iggy, Holiday, Chandler, Gallo, or Lawson. I think getting one would make me feel better. I don't like any of the players in this trade.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#216 » by UCFJayBird » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:07 pm

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MagicFan41 wrote:I've heard these $20mil in space figures thrown around for summer 2014, but does anybody know if that's right? Seems like we would have much more than that. Let us assume Jameer's 3rd year is a team option (who knows, but I wouldn't at all be surprised)...

Who do we really have on the payroll after that summer?

Afflalo: $7.75
BBD: $6.6
Harrington: $3.8 guaranteed

A few rookies at like $1-$2mil each?

That's like $40mil in capspace!

Real question is what potential big name free agents are around that summer?


Cap space means nothing for this team right now. What superstar is going to want to come into a rebuild situation?


T-Mac and Grant Hill did. IJS.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#217 » by Ahmadab » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm

thelead wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:I've heard these $20mil in space figures thrown around for summer 2014, but does anybody know if that's right? Seems like we would have much more than that. Let us assume Jameer's 3rd year is a team option (who knows, but I wouldn't at all be surprised)...

Who do we really have on the payroll after that summer?

Afflalo: $7.75
BBD: $6.6
Harrington: $3.8 guaranteed

A few rookies at like $1-$2mil each?

That's like $40mil in capspace!

Real question is what potential big name free agents are around that summer?


Cap space means nothing for this team right now. What superstar is going to want to come into a rebuild situation?


Let's say we get the #1 pick, did you see how CP3 went to play with Blake ? Or how Bynum wanted Kyrie. If you get a star others will want to play alongside him
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#218 » by Ahmadab » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm

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Post#219 » by Def Swami » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm

Stephen A saying Alex Martins has his name all over this.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV 

Post#220 » by tiderulz » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm

contract wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote: I guess we got the next best in Afflalo, though I am not so sure he's that much better than JRich to be honest.


Afflalo easily better than JRich.

He better be ... he's more expensive.


by about $1mil a year. easily earns that by performance

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