Completed Dwight trade talk II

[NY Knicka]

When Steve Nash is not running a fast pace offense, he is not as successful. He is also a complete liability on defense. Adding Dwight Howard will help when defenders blow by Nash every possession but after a while teams are just going to pick and roll/pop the **** of them.

Dwight wanted to go to a team where he could get "20 touches". That is not happening on this team where Steve Nash and Kobe need the ball in their hands at all times. Expect Dwight to average lower than usual stats and if his back is still acting up expect to see a even greater dip.

Overall, I am not impressed with the Lakers. The have aging BIG name players but it wont lead to a Championship. I doubt Dwight resigns with them. This MIGHT be the beginning of the end for the Lakers. But hey that just my opinion.

[NekiEcko]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
The first-round pick going from the Sixers to Magic is lottery-protected for two years, top-11 protected in yr 3, top-8 protected in yr 4.

So in other words, its better than the BK picks regardless...

Okay, how is that.

Philly is going to playoffs in the East no matter what, so they might see in the mid to late first round. I think that Nets deal was crazy but this deal is even more unique.

[Durant Durant]

But anywoo, since the trade is done, I think we are safe to ensure that Lakers and Heat will be meeting each other in the Finals for the next 3 -5 years. But there is alot of other questions that has be answer from other teams

1) What is the Rockets is going to do now? They been racking up picks, players, and cap space to take Dwight and all their bad contacts. But since Dwight is gone, what would Morey do?

2) I am a Hawks fan, so this question is us. Since Dwight is gone, how that is going to be playing in Josh Smith situation (Hell No, to Lakers fans that still want Gasol to Josh Smith trade to happen), I know that he wants to play with Dwight and I dont think that Lakers will have any room unless SNT. Plus he is a FA this year as well. If the Hawks is going to do a total face lift (much better job than the Magic right now) , Josh Smith might be the next person to get traded.

3) Lakers is going to be paying truckload and truckload of Taxes for this. The question will become if that is the case, would it hurt NBA more because if you want to get to the show, you will have to spend buckets and buckets of money and getting into LT. Miami was lucky that they did it before new CBA but they cant get away with that next time.

Those are my question about this. I think the Lakers made out like bandits but I have to blame Magic for gettting a sub-par deal for this.

rockets will be stupid to give up young talent for A rental. i think they paled somewhat with pursuing dwight when they got lin and asik unexpectedly.

it is possible Lakers are not done yet. they have Gasol as bait. horford?

[j_angel]

are you seriously suggesting that Atlanta would get rid of JJ to trade one of their best young players for someone older and on a near 20m per year deal?

really?

ATL are building around Teague-Horford, potentially Smith and cap-space.
Them trading Horford + filler for Gasol would be a worse deal than what Orlando received for Dwight.

[ClayDavis]

I'm pretty sure they offered Patterson morris , the magic were like um give us some of your recent 1st rounders. Like montejunas

[DynastySS]

I hope the Lakers have an incredibly healthy year, and somehow manage to win 15 games. Or at the very least, get bounced out the playoffs early.

[Stills12]

Orlando's GM attended this party.

[smith2373]

What if Arron Afflalo develops into a 20+ PPG scorer and leads the Magic to the playoffs?

Some many people on RealGM would be eating crow

[desertlakerfan]

I think Bynum resigns this city is going to LOVE Bynum we've been starving for a player like him.

Well the other factors are

1. You need him to be healthy
2. You need someone to get him the ball in the right situations, with the right passes.

An upgrade over AI most likely, but I think the attention Kobe and Gasol got in LA helped him out, I assume he'll see more double teams as a Sixer

Im going to assume you didnt' watch many Laker games last year, as Bynum constantly saw double and even triple teams since he dominates most 1v1 matchups. His trouble was finding the open man off the double and having outside shooters who can hit open looks.

[boogie-reke]

The big problem I have with Orlando here is they didn't clear Turkey glue's salary. When you are in a rebuilding situation like they are, you don't want an expensive star player back, but you need to get something of serious value.

All the picks are protected which is ridiculous, Afflalo is really good but doesn't have star potential, and they still have their worst contract on the books. Crazy.

Also find it amusing that the Sixers had to give up more for Bynum than the Lakers did for Howard.

What rebuilding though? I mean if they thought of a rebuild and that's what came out, they're really the worst organization in basketball behind the Sacramento Kings. I mean if you rebuild why would you give Jameer a 3 year deal?

They're gonna be the new Phoenix Suns pretty much.

Big-Baby, Al, Afflalo, Jameer, Hedo - they've got like 120 mil committed to these guys, other then Hedo on a 2 year contract they got all the rest of 3 year or more deals, all owed 6 or more million per year.

You also got Reddick, Ayon, and all the rookies aswell - these guys are gonna be a 9-14 lottery team, with hardly any room to improve and advance - most of the guys they have on contracts they'll be lucky to have them play the same level they do right now and not regress even further.

[dirtymike]

The sad thing is a team loses their star and wins the draft lottery for the third straight year is not likely to happen. It would make the draft lottery look completely rigged and I can't imagine the NBA being that stupid. Those who believe it's legitimate would have no argument. If the Magic are doing this to tank, I am not sure if it will work. As it is, I don't see myself following basketball next season. The Lakers getting yet another beneficial trade handed to them is getting disgusting at this point.

You didn't watch the year KG and Ray Allen joined the Celtics? Sucks, you really missed out on a good one.

Ray Allen was older at this point and making a lot of money. I wouldn't consider it lopsided. The Lakers acquiring Shaq, Kobe, Gasol, and Howard are all lopsided. The Lakers have benefitted from 4 very lopsided acquisitions in the last 20 years, and the Celtics have benefitted from 1. Nice try.

Really??? Vlade Divac, a top 10 center in the league, for a skinny, unproven, 17 yr old kid from high school? What's unfair about that? I know he turned out to be Kobe, but thats not the Lakers' fault!

[boogie-reke]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Pick details 4 Orlando in Howard trade: future first from Philly (w/protection), lower of Denver's 2 firsts (NY) in '14, Lakers' 2017 first.

Adding all those protections and stuff on the picks is just to spit in Orlando's face

I mean, they get shafted big time on the deal itself, but they also get conditions on the picks?

Maybe we could rework the deal so they can come wash my car too tomorrow morning?

[eatyourchildren]

When Steve Nash is not running a fast pace offense, he is not as successful. He is also a complete liability on defense. Adding Dwight Howard will help when defenders blow by Nash every possession but after a while teams are just going to pick and roll/pop the **** of them.

Dwight wanted to go to a team where he could get "20 touches". That is not happening on this team where Steve Nash and Kobe need the ball in their hands at all times. Expect Dwight to average lower than usual stats and if his back is still acting up expect to see a even greater dip.

Overall, I am not impressed with the Lakers. The have aging BIG name players but it wont lead to a Championship. I doubt Dwight resigns with them. This MIGHT be the beginning of the end for the Lakers. But hey that just my opinion.

All valid points. And yet still feeling way better about my situation than any of my Knicks friends. HEYOOOOOO

[MannyRam99]

Miami hasn't proven that they can consistently dominate, they are capable of winning it all of course but I mean they can be challenged by any playoff team. They are like the 08' Celtics to me that way.

Without Bosh, Pacers are capable of challenging them. Boston on their death bed is still capable of challenging them, although they do match up well against OKC when they go small. I dunno, I think a well rounded team like LA can beat them in 5 or 6.

[jeremylinMVP]

Well, it looks like Superman has found a home. I wish nothing but the best for Big Bynum. I hope he follows what was a great season last year with an even better one next year. I know LA is excited about the deal and rightfully so. The Lakers landed a piece that will hopefully carry the franchise long after I'm gone. I have spoken to Dwight Howard already and we are locked and loaded to bring back the title. Wow, what a summer Jimmy and Mitch have had so far. Unreal! I'm focused on our semifinal game vs Argentina but I had to pause for a few to send you my thoughts, in case you were curious..

via Kobes facebook page!

[83SixersRocked]

Just to put the Lakers FO in perspective.. people were laughing at them for being over the cap and unable to do anything until Kobe's contract is up and would stay mediocre. Well.. they just got a former MVP and the best centre in the game in one off season. Unbelievable.

No 'they' weren't. Their cap cleared 100% in two years.

[eagles nut]

Sam Amick of CNNSI on twitter: ORL also gets Josh McRoberts from Lakers.

[Litany]

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Pick details 4 Orlando in Howard trade: future first from Philly (w/protection), lower of Denver's 2 firsts (NY) in '14, Lakers' 2017 first.

Adding all those protections and stuff on the picks is just to spit in Orlando's face

I mean, they get shafted big time on the deal itself, but they also get conditions on the picks?

Maybe we could rework the deal so they can come wash my car too tomorrow morning?

You couldn't dream up a worse trade. wow

[JustBlaze]

John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger

Go easy on Hennigan. Hearing Orl Pres Alex Martins likely ran this one. Always good to have non-bball folks make critical decision.


If this is true Hennigan should quit immediately

It's true that there was most likely some strong arming going on but when you actually look at the transaction in detail you will see that Magic did get picks and minimal salary back.

It's just that at first glance the trade looks rigged because LA literally loses nothing.

Literally nothing??

Bynum for Howard has been reported for months, and all the sudden everyone has a problem with it because the Magic actually didn't get Bynum. Not because the Lakers didn't trade him, but for their own reasons the Magic didn't want him.

[TheXFactor]

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