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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

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Post#1261 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:32 pm

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"@RCognition: Magic now have 16 players under contract, is that possible or accurate?" 14. Gus Ayon & D. Liggins currently non-guaranteed.

Liggins isn't part of the 16 players we have on the roster. If we sign him, we'd have 17.


The error was Ayon, not Liggins. I was mistaken that his contract was picked up, but it hasn't been according to some websites. So we're at 15 with Ish no a non-guaranteed contract in for Ayon.
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Post#1262 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:33 pm

Magic better bring back Liggins. I feel he will be better than JJ soon and Afflalo in the long run. Dude has mad skills and decent court vision while already being an above average defender. If Henny can't see that, then Henny is a lost cause since he already gave up Dwight for nothing and signed Meer for $8 mil per when no team in the league would give him more than the MLE.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Editi 

Post#1263 » by Def Swami » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:35 pm

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VGOSWAMI wrote:Jameer/Ish
Afflalo/JJ
Harrington/Hedo/Q/Harkless/Eyenga
Davis/McRoberts/Nicholson/Ayon/Harper
Vucevic/O'Quinn

I'd go as far to say that team could possibly sneak into the 8th seed.

Better starting line up than our playoff team last year?


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Easily. We have upgrades at the 2 and 3. And Vucevic can average 9 ppg and 5 rpg given Ryan's minutes.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Editi 

Post#1264 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:35 pm

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Magic at 16 with Ish Smith and have several young PF types; gotta wonder if they'll buy out McBobs.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Editi 

Post#1265 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:35 pm

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DJRajX wrote:I'm happy we kept Ish... but I don't want to let go of Liggins... we have to be making a trade or two more to free up some spots I think.

As for Dwight's personal/love life... yeesh, I'm not commenting on that one.


We have to be, but who could we honestly be trading?

Most likely NOT traded:
Meer, Ish, Afflalo, Hedo, Harkless, BBD, Nicholson, Vucevic, OQuinn, Ayon

Could be traded:
JJ, Q, AL, McRoberts, Harper, Eyenga...... & TPE


Our best piece is clearly JJ so we would have to package him with somebody else for possibly an expiring/draft pick.

I see us trying to trade Turk before trading Al. Turk doesn't portray the best example to have around the young players. Regardless, one of them have to be shipped for the betterment of Nicholson/Harkless.
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Post#1266 » by ADRajX » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:35 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
DJRajX wrote:I'm happy we kept Ish... but I don't want to let go of Liggins... we have to be making a trade or two more to free up some spots I think.

As for Dwight's personal/love life... yeesh, I'm not commenting on that one.


We have to be, but who could we honestly be trading?

Most likely NOT traded:
Meer, Ish, Afflalo, Hedo, Harkless, BBD, Nicholson, Vucevic, OQuinn, Ayon

Could be traded:
JJ, Q, AL, McRoberts, Harper, Eyenga...... & TPE


Our best piece is clearly JJ so we would have to package him with somebody else for possibly an expiring/draft pick.


Yeah, Redick is definitely trade bait... even though I don't want to see him get traded... but Q-Rich, Hedo, McRoberts, and Harrington are tradeable as well (if packaged with Redick)
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition) 

Post#1267 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:36 pm

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Magic at 16 with Ish Smith and have several young PF types; gotta wonder if they'll buy out McBobs.

NO! Let's trade him and a first round pick for an O.J. Mayo like player!
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Post#1268 » by SOUL » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:36 pm

when do we introduce?
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Post#1269 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:38 pm

Magic will probably do a 3 for 1 like JJ/Harrington/QRich for some young talent. Then, the demolition of the team is nearly complete. I feel bad for all those season ticket holders that overspent thinking Dwight would be here. Arena will be empty next year if JJ is gone though. BBD may be the only marketable player left unless they trade him.
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Post#1270 » by MagicTownBaller » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:38 pm

SOUL wrote:when do we introduce?

I know tomorrow we are having a press conference for Arron Afflalo.
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Post#1271 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:38 pm

SOUL wrote:when do we introduce?

Rumor is tomorrow.
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Post#1272 » by Furinkazan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:39 pm

we should br able to flip mcroberts for a pick pretty easly
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Post#1273 » by RickB-Orlando » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:41 pm

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New Philly center Andrew Bynum breaking future free agency news in his presser. When asked about his free agency next summer, he says, "To be honest man, my first experience here has been so great (that) I'm really leaning towards making this my home (fans who are at press conference go nuts). I'm not a guy who tries to be all around and have a lot of teams on my belt, so I don't know man. It's crazy. That's really the answer man. I'm really leaning towards being able to stay here and making it my home."

That could have been us. It'll be interesting to see which team will be in a better situation 3 years from now.

This was what I really was hoping we would do, but I'm still optimistic that the extreme youth movement will work out in 2 or 3 years.
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Post#1274 » by ChildishGambino » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:52 pm

so we resign the player that regularly outplayed Duhon and sometimes even Nelson on some nights? good signing.....if he does get a jumpshot then could he be our super sub? Good athleticism...Good Vision....Great Speed.....if we works on the Defense and the jumpshot then we're golden
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Editi 

Post#1275 » by SOUL » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:02 pm

It's McBob I think getting released if thats the case, or we traded Ryno for nothing.
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Post#1276 » by magicfan4life88 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:05 pm

Ish smith will be the new jj barrea
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Editi 

Post#1277 » by colamagicfan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:06 pm

Dont really see JJ being traded right now, he is the only other true SG on roster besides Afflalo giving the team only 4 guards on roster
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Post#1278 » by JarethCutestory » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:06 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Magic better bring back Liggins. I feel he will be better than JJ soon and Afflalo in the long run. Dude has mad skills and decent court vision while already being an above average defender. If Henny can't see that, then Henny is a lost cause since he already gave up Dwight for nothing and signed Meer for $8 mil per when no team in the league would give him more than the MLE.


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Post#1279 » by JarethCutestory » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:09 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Magic will probably do a 3 for 1 like JJ/Harrington/QRich for some young talent. Then, the demolition of the team is nearly complete. I feel bad for all those season ticket holders that overspent thinking Dwight would be here. Arena will be empty next year if JJ is gone though. BBD may be the only marketable player left unless they trade him.


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Post#1280 » by RYgoBOOM » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:12 pm

I just hope we ship our trade bait for picks. I don't want good enough players in return that could offset our tanking.

I'd love to give Hark and Nich 30+ mins a night at some point this year.
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