Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

[ChildishGambino]

wow man people can't handle a little adversity....things get tough and they want to take their ball and go home....guess that's how things go....things will get worse before it gets better....when it does get better and it will...will some of these fair weather dudes feel as good as the posters who was here during the bad times? Time will tell i guess

[rcklsscognition]

From the SI article:

Hennigan spent about 20 nights per month for nine months out of the year on the road scouting for Oklahoma City.

The way his basketball mind is wired doesn't hurt, either, at a time when NBA teams are valuing player efficiency more than ever. As a 6-5 guard at Emerson, Hennigan once scored a career-high 47 points while having his hands on the ball for a combined three minutes during a game against Suffolk University.
"He very rarely put the ball to the floor," said Smith, his Emerson coach. "His big thing was reading screens, coming off curls, pull-up jump shots, threes in transition. He had maybe the most efficient game that I've witnessed. He was phenomenal. There were so many games where he'd have 29 points on 10 shots, 26 points on 11 shots. It was on and on. His efficiency was amazing."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z23eTKYVL1

[Blue_and_Whte]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

yeh Rob should have waited much freakin longer to talk to Dwight
Should have trade him Before or during the draft...

he waited till offer went worse and worse ...


this article aint change sht...

secondly...

we all were realistic what we could get for D12
and we got it in Bynum + some scrubs
but flipped that for 2 bad contracts crappy picks +15th pick
Un freakin BELIVABLE

GM of the year

if you continue to look at this in the short term and take everything we got in the trade at face value you'll continue failing to recognize what the long term plan is.

[JarethCutestory]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

[quote]Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

yeh Rob should have waited much freakin longer to talk to Dwight
Should have trade him Before or during the draft...

he waited till offer went worse and worse ...


this article aint change sht...

secondly...

we all were realistic what we could get for D12
and we got it in Bynum + some scrubs
but flipped that for 2 bad contracts crappy picks +15th pick
Un freakin BELIVABLE

GM of the year

if you continue to look at this in the short term and take everything we got in the trade at face value you'll continue failing to recognize what the long term is.[/quote]

I love you

[Def Swami]

From the SI article:

Hennigan spent about 20 nights per month for nine months out of the year on the road scouting for Oklahoma City.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z23eTKYVL1

I was just about to post this quote from the article too. Very promising to know that Hennigan had a nice hand in evaluating OKC's talent.

I can't emphasize how good of a read this article is. Probably the most informative piece written this offseason.

[ChosenSavior]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

Great article by Amick. One tidbit that I enjoyed...

It's fitting that Hennigan would wind up with the Spurs, for whom he worked from 2003-07. Hennigan's natural tendencies were only strengthened during his time in San Antonio, where it wasn't just the drafting of David Robinson and Tim Duncan that led to four championships since 1999. Spurs general manager R.C. Buford and coach Gregg Popovich have built one of the healthiest cultures in professional sports, a place where selflessness and a relentless work ethic are always expected, and those who were there say Hennigan blended right in. While his intern role at first included menial tasks like picking up players from the airport, it didn't take long before he was making his way up and leaving a lasting impact on San Antonio's highly regarded scouting system. As Buford remembers it, Hennigan was promoted for the first time after a year and became a part of the team's regular scouting schedule after his second year.

"He had a very mature understanding of what he knew and what he needed to know, and had a very calculated and mature approach to growing himself and helping us grow in areas that were new to us -- new to people who were scouting basketball," Buford said of Hennigan recently. "The data collection, the development of our internal information systems, were all a big part of Rob's contributions. At the same time, he was a diligent film watcher.

"And as he grew through the scouting role, I think he had a very confident approach to his evaluations and his ability to transfer those evaluations to discussions among our group, among our coaches. His opinions were well-grounded and well-researched, so he spoke confidently in a pretty intimidating atmosphere."

I knew it in my heart and mind that the crap Buck Harvey wrote was false information and he was just butt hurt about the Lakers acquiring Dwight.

[Def Swami]

"He's unflappable, OK?" Martins said. "I was most impressed with him six or seven days into the job on draft night. Clearly you can understand what would happen in the dynamics of the league with a brand-new guy who just came on board who everyone says is young and some have identified as not as experienced as you would expect, so everyone's calling up and trying to take advantage of the guy.

"I was sitting right next to him, and I was so incredibly impressed by how unflappable he was. He wasn't going to get pushed around. To me, in that first week, that solidified and gave me the confidence that we made the right decision."

That Hennigan began to prove himself on draft night is appropriate, given Orlando's plan. The Magic, according to Martins, entered their general manager search with the memories of draft failures fresh in their minds and determined to find someone who could fix what was broken in their evaluation process. Then here came Hennigan, a wunderkind from the revered Spurs and Thunder programs that were so successful in building through the draft.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z23eVsOApL

Martins and the DeVos family decided that the Magic would no longer be known as a team that conducted far fewer draft workouts and player interviews than most, if not all, of their rivals. The Magic, they vowed, would join the modern era of player evaluation and team building. No more huge contracts for players who aren't truly difference makers. No more shortcuts in the process that may have, as they see it, cost them a chance to win it all with Howard and keep him around for the rest of his career. And certainly, no repeats of the Fran Vazquez situation.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z23eWo6i8D

Glad to know we'll draft better.

[InFlames]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

yeh Rob should have waited much freakin longer to talk to Dwight
Should have trade him Before or during the draft...

he waited till offer went worse and worse ...


this article aint change sht...

secondly...

we all were realistic what we could get for D12
and we got it in Bynum + some scrubs
but flipped that for 2 bad contracts crappy picks +15th pick
Un freakin BELIVABLE

GM of the year

Wat.

[arsenal6106]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

This deserves an old school +1

[Def Swami]

The article has direct quotes from RC Buford and Sam Presti praising Hennigan's work with the Spurs. Where's that Spurs troll now?

[TDJacksonville]

The article has direct quotes from RC Buford and Sam Presti praising Hennigan's work with the Spurs. Where's that Spurs troll now?

probably up in troll prison.

[OrlandO]

I haven't had a chance to read the SI article yet, but it sounds like it deserves its own thread...

[Noonskadoodle]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/08/15/dwight-howard-rob-hennigan-orlando-magic/index.html

You guys, ESPECIALLY BadMofoPimp, need to read this entire article.

Great piece of writing by Amick, and ALOT of the reality of the deal is detailed. Such as Lamb being off the table after his summer league breakout, and guys like Gary Forbes being offered in the HOU deal attached to the TOR lotto pick.

Seriously. Read it. Now.

Many assumed that the Rockets' three first-round picks from this year's draft -- guard Jeremy Lamb and forwards Royce White and Terrence Jones -- would be made available in a Howard deal. But sources close to the Magic said Lamb was the only such prospect offered, and that he was off the table by the time the talks involved the Lakers and Lamb had impressed at the Las Vegas summer league in July (he averaged 20 points in five games). Meanwhile, unwanted players like Gary Forbes, Jon Brockman and Marcus Morris were made available (along with shooting guard Kevin Martin, whose expiring $12.9 million contract was a must to make the money work).

yeh Rob should have waited much freakin longer to talk to Dwight
Should have trade him Before or during the draft...

he waited till offer went worse and worse ...


this article aint change sht...

secondly...

we all were realistic what we could get for D12
and we got it in Bynum + some scrubs
but flipped that for 2 bad contracts crappy picks +15th pick Un freakin BELIVABLE

GM of the year

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

The trolling machine? I think he/she must be trolling in another forum.
Live-Action-Discussion

[SpursFan4Life]

So the Magic get an old Spurs front office guy in Hennigan. They also grab a Spurs assistant as head coach. And they also tried to lure Tim Duncan away to Orlando. Why not just admit it now, Magic fans? You want to be like the Spurs and us...the fans. We know more than Magic fans as does our coaches and front office. Thanks for the props.

***Check your messages. ~ MagicMadness***

[JarethCutestory]

I would agree on our team wanting to replicate a successful and sustainable franchise.

But no, I don't want to be the douche who goes around bragging about it on other teams forums.

[mhectorgato]

I would agree on our team wanting to replicate a successful and sustainable franchise.

But no, I don't want to be the douche who goes around bragging about it on other teams forums.

And one who expressly created an account for this purpose.

[BadMofoPimp]

So the Magic get an old Spurs front office guy in Hennigan. They also grab a Spurs assistant as head coach. And they also tried to lure Tim Duncan away to Orlando. Why not just admit it now, Magic fans? You want to be like the Spurs and us...the fans. We know more than Magic fans as does our coaches and front office. Thanks for the props.

At least the Spurs don't give away their talent! Can the Spurs teach us that. Wait, Henny just did that!

[Furinkazan]

[Noonskadoodle]

So the Magic get an old Spurs front office guy in Hennigan. They also grab a Spurs assistant as head coach. And they also tried to lure Tim Duncan away to Orlando. Why not just admit it now, Magic fans? You want to be like the Spurs and us...the fans. We know more than Magic fans as does our coaches and front office. Thanks for the props.

Rightttttttttttt haha

I'm sure the majority of Spurs fans want you gone from their fan base.

Thank God you are not a Magic fan.

Run along back to the **** you came from my friend & have fun getting rolled by the Lakers/OKC year after year in the future.