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what the odds of a team with only an elite PG winning a ring

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Post#21 » by Kanyewest » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:34 pm

Those Philly/Laker games were pretty close even if they were 10+ points. Problem of course was that AI didn't have an above average offensive starter other than Aaron McKie who was injured in that finals.
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Post#22 » by Nivek » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:35 pm

Knighthonor wrote:You can win with an elite big:
Shaq x 4
Duncan x 4
Dream x 2

You can win with an elite wing:
Jordan x 6
Pippen x 6

Kobe x 5
Lebron x 1
Wade x2


But recent history has said you cannot win with an elite scoring point guard who has no one else who is an elite scorer

copied from elsewhere on the forum.


Interesting how so many of these guys came from the same team. It's almost like it takes more than one elite player to win a title.
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Post#23 » by Ruzious » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Of course, the 1947-48 Champion Baltimore Bullets were led in scoring by elite center Kleggie Hermson - who had a rather pedestrian .277 FG percentage. But even Kleggie didn't win it all by himself.
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Post#24 » by nate33 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:51 pm

Ruzious wrote:Of course, the 1947-48 Champion Baltimore Bullets were led in scoring by elite center Kleggie Hermson - who had a rather pedestrian .277 FG percentage. But even Kleggie didn't win it all by himself.

It's astonishing how badly people shot back then. Those games must have been awful to watch. What was the deal? Were fouls simply not called? How can you shoot that poorly?
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Post#25 » by Nivek » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Ruzious wrote:Of course, the 1947-48 Champion Baltimore Bullets were led in scoring by elite center Kleggie Hermson - who had a rather pedestrian .277 FG percentage. But even Kleggie didn't win it all by himself.


What's hilarious is that this example counters the claptrap about PGs with high Offensive Win Shares -- that is teams with a PG who dominates OWS -- can't win titles. The team leader in OWS was the 5-11 Buddy Jeannette -- who led the team in FG% (.349), FT% and assists (1.5 per game). He also coached the team.
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Post#26 » by Higga » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:45 pm

You need at least two elite players, or one elite and a bunch of really really good role players(Mavs of last year).
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Post#27 » by bawizards » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:37 am

The chances of just a elite PG are slim to none. We will need to get another elite player or 2. Looking at our roster our best young assests are Wall(potential top 3 PG. elite player in NBA) Bradley Beal ( a efficient scorer who is above average at everything. I think he can be a second tier SG and be in mix for all star games.) then Seraphin (put up 15 and 7 with good D in april. With his attitude he may develp into a fringe all star.) With that trio we have drafted, we better hope Ernies plan of us being able to ship Okafor/Ariza expiring deal while the young 3 get a year or 2 of playoff experience better work or we maybe on track for the playoff purgatory.
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Post#28 » by dangermouse » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:14 am

With the number of top-flight PG's running around the league at the moment, one of them is bound to lead their team to a chip once Lebron and Wade slow down a bit in a few years.

Hope its us! But yeah we need at least one other genuine all-star and another player that is at least on the cusp of being considered an all-star.
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