MSG Stock Price Watch

Post #261 » by **Thugger HBC** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:06 am

Stocks go up and down.

Most likely it will rise even farther once they open up the arena to showcase phase II

knicks9784 · Post #262 » by **knicks9784** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:33 am

idk if its been posted but found this kinda humorous lol

http://deadspin.com/5936333/so-much-for ... +time-high

DocZaius · Post #263 » by **DocZaius** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:29 am

Yep exactly what I said about the stock.....hope you didn't sell those options early daba

Stock will fall after earnings though you can bet on that, put in that stop order soon

socks fit OK · Post #264 » by **socks fit OK** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:22 am

GettinitDone wrote:Knicks are a huggeeeeee profitable company

Where the Knicks and some Knicks fans like Hakeemknicks don't get is, with Lin, that all-time high $39.39 would have been even higher.

The big thing is the Knicks lost out on a lot of potential profit by passing on Lin...There's something like 2 million Asians in the metro area, 8 Chinatowns. Plus the international scene - they blew the chance to have a pretty exclusive pipeline of new fans not just internationally, but locally.

Plus the Knicks set the record for highest TV Ratings during Linsanity...Lost out on a lot of potential profit off of tv spots, ad spaces at the garden, merchandising, ect...

knicksnyk · Post #265 » by **knicksnyk** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:28 am

HakeemKnicks wrote:
knicksnyk wrote:
guys on twitter were celebrating beleive it or not. never seen anything like this in my life people celebrating someone elses $. this was my favourite one

Gus dollaz da god ‏@Sheglar_GD
@DJMisterDior as long as he own cable companies he never gonna need a chink like lin
Retweeted by CAA reps me

so if you aren't celebrating just posting an interesting read then my post wasnt directed at you.

Fair enough,

I've just been someone from the beginning that has believed Lin's financial value to the Knicks has been over blown and the article reiterated my points while brining new facts to back my claims.

Also, there's always the opposite side of the spectrum of the Lin fans who claimed the "Knick fans" would boycott games at MSG if his offer wasn't matched and the orginization would see a major financial backlash. Which is just as ridiculous as Mister Dior's tweet.

the media always overblows these things. they wont lose much profit. the whole asia market thing is hyped up to much because there is a lot of revenue sharing. not saying that he doesn't affect a teams bottom line bcus he does but not as much as fans like to think he does. but dont tell that to the knick fans who think Lin got that contract because he is asian, china money and "mr pr man". they would feel stupid

daba · Post #266 » by **daba** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:02 pm

DocZaius wrote:Yep exactly what I said about the stock.....hope you didn't sell those options early daba

Stock will fall after earnings though you can bet on that, put in that stop order soon

Still in it. I've put it out there to sell but the volume is so light that the bigs are often below what they'd be valued if you were to exercise the options. Even though the earnings are on Friday, I might sell them if I can get a good price before then. I'm a good amount and am looking to put more in some other things at this point.

DE FENSE · Post #267 » by **DE FENSE** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:34 pm

LOL...dollar wise, MSG doesn't need Lin, never did. Lin, however, needed MSG to get his nice payday. Funny how everything makes sense once the smoke clears.

ccvle · Post #268 » by **ccvle** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:27 pm

socks fit OK wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:Knicks are a huggeeeeee profitable company

Where the Knicks and some Knicks fans like Hakeemknicks don't get is, with Lin, that all-time high $39.39 would have been even higher.

The big thing is the Knicks lost out on a lot of potential profit by passing on Lin...There's something like 2 million Asians in the metro area, 8 Chinatowns. Plus the international scene - they blew the chance to have a pretty exclusive pipeline of new fans not just internationally, but locally.

Plus the Knicks set the record for highest TV Ratings during Linsanity...Lost out on a lot of potential profit off of tv spots, ad spaces at the garden, merchandising, ect...

thats over exaggerated. How many of those 2 millions asians would actually spend a cent on the knicks or lin? You might have more Chinese and Taiwanese tourists showing up at the games, but how much more are you really making when you sellout everygame anyway. If you are looking for sponsors from the chinese community in the tri state, you are not going to find too many, maybe a bubble tea store giving out coupons.

columbiaa14 · Post #269 » by **columbiaa14** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:54 pm

DE FENSE wrote:LOL...dollar wise, MSG doesn't need Lin, never did. Lin, however, needed MSG to get his nice payday. Funny how everything makes sense once the smoke clears.

Too dumb for words.

Tron Carter · Post #270 » by **Tron Carter** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:16 pm

Lin doesn't need the Knicks.

It's just that the New York Market > Houston Market. Lin's still marketing his brand great overall.

DE FENSE · Post #271 » by **DE FENSE** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:29 pm

columbiaa14 wrote:
DE FENSE wrote:LOL...dollar wise, MSG doesn't need Lin, never did. Lin, however, needed MSG to get his nice payday. Funny how everything makes sense once the smoke clears.

Too dumb for words.

Without the Knicks, Lin is probably a d-leaguer at best. That much is indisputable. But you can try. Can't wait to see your next animated gif

Tron Carter · Post #272 » by **Tron Carter** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:09 pm

The New York Knicks were the perfect storm for Lin to succeed that much is true.

It's a fair argument to say Lin would not be in the position he is in now EVER in his career without the Knicks.

columbiaa14 · Post #273 » by **columbiaa14** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:17 pm

DE FENSE wrote:
columbiaa14 wrote:
DE FENSE wrote:LOL...dollar wise, MSG doesn't need Lin, never did. Lin, however, needed MSG to get his nice payday. Funny how everything makes sense once the smoke clears.

Too dumb for words.

Without the Knicks, Lin is probably a d-leaguer at best. That much is indisputable. But you can try. Can't wait to see your next animated gif

Youre right. Its thanks to the Knicks that Lin averaged 18ppg8apg as a starter. Thanks to the Knicks, Lin is suddenly a starting PG whos probably gonna average near those same numbers next season. Cuz u know, if knicks never gave him a chance, his skills would magically disappear.

Knicks purposely went on that 8-15 start so that Lin could lead em to a 7 game winning streak with jeffries + billy walker as starters right? how generous of them :lol:

DE FENSE · Post #274 » by **DE FENSE** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:47 pm

columbiaa14 wrote:
DE FENSE wrote:Without the Knicks, Lin is probably a d-leaguer at best. That much is indisputable. But you can try. Can't wait to see your next animated gif

Youre right. Its thanks to the Knicks that Lin averaged 18ppg8apg as a starter. Thanks to the Knicks, Lin is suddenly a starting PG whos probably gonna average near those same numbers next season. Cuz u know, if knicks never gave him a chance, his skills would magically disappear.

Knicks purposely went on that 8-15 start so that Lin could lead em to a 7 game winning streak with jeffries + billy walker as starters right? how generous of them

Come on, sarcasm will get you nowhere. You're better than that!

THE TRUTH IS, if the Knicks weren't so absolutely DESPERATE for a PG, ANY PG, Lin might have never gotten another chance on a pro squad. Sorry, I can tell you're a Jeremy Lin fan, but its true. I'm sure guys with more potential than Lin have fallen through the cracks before, and it might not be fair, but Lin had an extra hurdle to clear, obviously that hurdle was his race. The Knicks gave him the chance to succeed when non-playoff teams like Houston and GS wouldn't even give him their 15th roster spot.

Did Lin make the most of his opportunity? YES. Did NYK give him that opportunity when no one else would? YES. Do the math.

seren · Post #275 » by **seren** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:04 pm

columbiaa14 wrote:Youre right. Its thanks to the Knicks that Lin averaged 18ppg8apg as a starter. Thanks to the Knicks, Lin is suddenly a starting PG whos probably gonna average near those same numbers next season. Cuz u know, if knicks never gave him a chance, his skills would magically disappear.

Knicks purposely went on that 8-15 start so that Lin could lead em to a 7 game winning streak with jeffries + billy walker as starters right? how generous of them

I think you missed the part where Lin was cut by two teams.

knicksnyk · Post #276 » by **knicksnyk** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:17 pm

ccvle wrote:
socks fit OK wrote:
GettinitDone wrote:Knicks are a huggeeeeee profitable company

Where the Knicks and some Knicks fans like Hakeemknicks don't get is, with Lin, that all-time high $39.39 would have been even higher.

The big thing is the Knicks lost out on a lot of potential profit by passing on Lin...There's something like 2 million Asians in the metro area, 8 Chinatowns. Plus the international scene - they blew the chance to have a pretty exclusive pipeline of new fans not just internationally, but locally.

Plus the Knicks set the record for highest TV Ratings during Linsanity...Lost out on a lot of potential profit off of tv spots, ad spaces at the garden, merchandising, ect...

thats over exaggerated. How many of those 2 millions asians would actually spend a cent on the knicks or lin? You might have more Chinese and Taiwanese tourists showing up at the games, but how much more are you really making when you sellout everygame anyway. If you are looking for sponsors from the chinese community in the tri state, you are not going to find too many, maybe a bubble tea store giving out coupons.

lol you dont need to get sponsors in the tristate community. u can get sponsors from anywhere taiwan for example

knicksnyk · Post #277 » by **knicksnyk** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:36 pm

HakeemKnicks wrote:Lin doesn't need the Knicks.

It's just that the New York Market > Houston Market. Lin's still marketing his brand great overall.

This NY market thing is also overblown. the players who earn the most in endorsements none of them live in NY or play for a NY team. as long as u play well the $ will flow. with things like twitter and facebook ppl can stay connected and ppl will here. if Lin had done the exact same thing he did in NY (exact same storyline as well) in houston or LA or a bunch of other teams ppl would have heard about it still bcus of the harvard, undrafted, cut and asian thing. the media would have still promoted it to death. the only thing that i think the New york market added was "he did it on a really big stage".

seren · Post #278 » by **seren** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:40 pm

I don't know whether Lin needs New York market, but I believe he needs to win if he is going to stay relevant long term.

knicksnyk · Post #279 » by **knicksnyk** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:46 pm

seren wrote:I don't know whether Lin needs New York market, but I believe he needs to win if he is going to stay relevant long term.

no not really. if he plays well he will be relevant. look at kyrie irving with the cavs. he is insanely popular everywhere not just in asia. there are ppl in New zealand who dont know who LBJ is but they know kobe and jeremy lin. he is popular so he will get the fan vote for the all star games as well. if he plays well he will be relevant even if the rockets win only 35 games (which is what I think they will win).

seren · Post #280 » by **seren** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:01 pm

knicksnyk wrote:
seren wrote:I don't know whether Lin needs New York market, but I believe he needs to win if he is going to stay relevant long term.

no not really. if he plays well he will be relevant. look at kyrie irving with the cavs. he is insanely popular everywhere not just in asia. there are ppl in New zealand who dont know who LBJ is but they know kobe and jeremy lin. he is popular so he will get the fan vote for the all star games as well. if he plays well he will be relevant even if the rockets win only 35 games (which is what I think they will win).

that is actually what I meant. their current team has 20 win ceiling though. i don't know whether he will be that popular if he wins 20 games year in and out.