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Re: Source: If Blazers losing by mid-Jan, LMA will ask out 

Post#81 » by GreenRiddler » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:53 pm

Clarity wrote:Denver & NO are both in better shape now because of dealing Melo & CP3, teams ALWAYS overpay for a "star player" which im not even sure Aldridge is yet full time.

I would absolutely look into this option if it came up

NO is in better shape? Last time I checked they were in the Bottom 5 of the league and traded for a really good player (Gordon) who played is real injury prone. They really just got Rivers Aminu and Gordon for Paul which isn't bad but if Gordon isn't healthy then it is bad.
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Re: Source: If Blazers losing by mid-Jan, LMA will ask out 

Post#82 » by GreenRiddler » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:55 pm

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Clarity wrote:Denver & NO are both in better shape now because of dealing Melo & CP3, teams ALWAYS overpay for a "star player" which im not even sure Aldridge is yet full time.

I would absolutely look into this option if it came up


It's funny when people consider Williams a star player but not Aldridge when Williams struggled to make the all-star game quite a bit until recently. Melo makes the all-star game regularly but has yet to demonstrate playoff success barring one run with Billups being the true man in those playoff games.

Williams missed out on the all-star game his first 4 seasons.

The way I look at it if your a possible all-star starter your a star. If LMA was in New York per se he would be considered the second best big in the league and Breen, Broussard and Bayless would talk about him alot more.
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Re: Source: If Blazers losing by mid-Jan, LMA will ask out 

Post#83 » by Clarity » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:16 am

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unless I misunderstood you, it sure seemed you were in favor of exploring trades for Aldridge "if it came up". That's what this thread is about anyway

if Lillard is really good but the Blazers trade away Aldridge for lesser players (and that's very likely what they'd get), Portland would not be in better shape then if they kept Aldridge


my original statement said if Aldridge wanted out (which would be triggered by losing which would indicate Lillard may not turn out great or may take some time) then they should explore it.

You will know by Dec/Jan if Lillard is gonna be Roy'ish, I think he has a good shot at it personally. If thats the case, I doubt Lamarcus would want out.

Like I said its all upon Lillard, thats why that #6 pick couldnt be a miss.
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Post#84 » by Clarity » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:19 am

GreenRiddler wrote:NO is in better shape? Last time I checked they were in the Bottom 5 of the league and traded for a really good player (Gordon) who played is real injury prone. They really just got Rivers Aminu and Gordon for Paul which isn't bad but if Gordon isn't healthy then it is bad.


Bottom 5 before Davis, Rivers & with Gordon hurt. so if you mean without the core I listed in my post you replied to then yes NO got worse. lol

Chris Paul's NO was a consistent first round exit, id take what they have now over that easily, bc now they can try to build something.
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Post#85 » by Clarity » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:21 am

& comparing a PG to a post player is silly, Aldridge WHEN HE PLAYS IN THE POST t is the 2nd best PF in the game right now imo.

I easily think Aldridge can pull a pkg like Utah got for Deron if they wish, look at how the free market jocks Bosh & Aldridge is better than Bosh.
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Post#86 » by GreenRiddler » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:44 am

Yea well this is still wayy to early he is on for three more years we won't trade him unless he asks and he said he doesn't mind a rebuild, this is silly cause it is all about some rumor.
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Post#87 » by monopoman » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:48 am

Yeah, I sincerely doubt Aldridge is the type to secretly hate his situation but never tell anyone or only tell his entourage.

I can imagine something like that from a guy like Howard, but not Aldridge.
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Post#88 » by License2Lillard » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:22 pm

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License2Lillard wrote:Can you name one reason why Bynum would want to sign here?

$$$ :) but seriously him and Doug Collins aren't gonna get along too well.


My point was...If the money is the same from 5-6 teams, with PHI's offer even higher, we have no legitimate shot.
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Re: Source: If Blazers losing by mid-Jan, LMA will ask out 

Post#89 » by DusterBuster » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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License2Lillard wrote:Can you name one reason why Bynum would want to sign here?

$$$ :) but seriously him and Doug Collins aren't gonna get along too well.


They'll fire Collins before the let Bynum get away.
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Post#90 » by Sabzi » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:30 pm

Denver is still irrelevant so not much has changed since they traded Melo. No franchise player and in no position to acquire one.

No reason to worry about LMA's value since the best package for him would likely be nothing. Picks would be nice but talent won't be coming back that's difference making and distancing ourselves from the lottery would be a giant mistake. Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.
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Re: Source: If Blazers losing by mid-Jan, LMA will ask out 

Post#91 » by GreenRiddler » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:04 pm

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License2Lillard wrote:Can you name one reason why Bynum would want to sign here?

$$$ :) but seriously him and Doug Collins aren't gonna get along too well.


They'll fire Collins before the let Bynum get away.

I thought they would fire him before he messed up Evan Turner. You may be right though, especially if they do bad next year, the East might be overall more better than the West now.
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Post#92 » by Clarity » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:06 pm

Sabzi wrote:Denver is still irrelevant so not much has changed since they traded Melo. No franchise player and in no position to acquire one.

No reason to worry about LMA's value since the best package for him would likely be nothing. Picks would be nice but talent won't be coming back that's difference making and distancing ourselves from the lottery would be a giant mistake. Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.


this Denver team>Melo's Nuggets team

& if they wanted to acquire another All Star (besides Iggy) they have plenty of assets to do so.
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Post#93 » by GreenRiddler » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:09 pm

Sabzi wrote:Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.

Wise, this word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Post#94 » by Sabzi » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:43 am

Clarity wrote:
Sabzi wrote:Denver is still irrelevant so not much has changed since they traded Melo. No franchise player and in no position to acquire one.

No reason to worry about LMA's value since the best package for him would likely be nothing. Picks would be nice but talent won't be coming back that's difference making and distancing ourselves from the lottery would be a giant mistake. Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.


this Denver team>Melo's Nuggets team

& if they wanted to acquire another All Star (besides Iggy) they have plenty of assets to do so.



They don't have a franchise player therefore they are irrelevant. Those assets are pretty worthless in that market as NBA history has taught us.
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Post#95 » by Sabzi » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:47 am

GreenRiddler wrote:
Sabzi wrote:Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.

Wise, this word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.



No it was used as intended. Some pretty basic understandings of the league history as it pertains to franchise players and the newest edition of the collective bargaining agreement will help you arrive at that word. He managed to avoid the traps of Iggy and Bynum while still forecasting that money will have to be spent despite being in pursuit of high lottery picks.
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Post#96 » by sir G Wallace » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:42 am

I would truly feel hurt if LMA did so. I want him here atleast for 2 more years. Maybe more. I really like his game.
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Post#97 » by GreenRiddler » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:25 am

Sabzi wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:
Sabzi wrote:Need to be wise as Mr. Hennigan was.

Wise, this word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.



No it was used as intended. Some pretty basic understandings of the league history as it pertains to franchise players and the newest edition of the collective bargaining agreement will help you arrive at that word. He managed to avoid the traps of Iggy and Bynum while still forecasting that money will have to be spent despite being in pursuit of high lottery picks.

While also taking on unnecessary contracts in AAA and Harrington. Also I disagree with your earlier comment on The Nuggs being irrelevant, because they don't have a "superstar". They have depth and with Iggy I expect them to go in to the second round this year, maybe as high as fourth in the west.
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Post#98 » by Sabzi » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:17 am

GreenRiddler wrote:While also taking on unnecessary contracts in AAA and Harrington. Also I disagree with your earlier comment on The Nuggs being irrelevant, because they don't have a "superstar". They have depth and with Iggy I expect them to go in to the second round this year, maybe as high as fourth in the west.



Necessary evil since you can sit on 10% less cap room anyways in the future combined with the guaranteed pursuit of the lottery provides context for the praise Hennigan should be receiving.

You can make the second round and still be irrelevant. Look at the Indiana Pacers.
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Post#99 » by Clarity » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:40 am

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They don't have a franchise player therefore they are irrelevant. Those assets are pretty worthless in that market as NBA history has taught us.


If Denver is "irrelevant" id hate to see what u say about the Blazers right now.

Iggy might not be a franchise player but hes an All Star & NBA history has told us even a few of those assets can net a player like Carmelo Anthony so you can be in a lot worse shape than Denver is in currently.
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Post#100 » by Sabzi » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:49 pm

Clarity wrote:
Sabzi wrote:

They don't have a franchise player therefore they are irrelevant. Those assets are pretty worthless in that market as NBA history has taught us.


If Denver is "irrelevant" id hate to see what u say about the Blazers right now.

Iggy might not be a franchise player but hes an All Star & NBA history has told us even a few of those assets can net a player like Carmelo Anthony so you can be in a lot worse shape than Denver is in currently.



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