RealGM Rookie Of The Year Poll

[Absurdus]

Lithuanians like to compare Valanciunas with other their rookie Motiejunas, and most of them are stating that Motiejunas is far better right now and that he would be more successful. Besides skills on the court, he is more self-confident, experienced and smarter too. And he is not even on this list.

People are going to come back to to this thread and laugh at Raptor fans.

So, you're telling us that all 102 people who voted for JV are Raptors fans?

Or lithuanians.

[HSOB SIRHC]

Lithuanians like to compare Valanciunas with other their rookie Motiejunas, and most of them are stating that Motiejunas is far better right now and that he would be more successful. Besides skills on the court, he is more self-confident, experienced and smarter too. And he is not even on this list.

People are going to come back to to this thread and laugh at Raptor fans.

So, you're telling us that all 102 people who voted for JV are Raptors fans?

Or lithuanians.

So JV won Eurocup rising star award, Fiba European rising star of the year award, played for his country in the u16, u18, u19 (winning MVP every year) and also played on the senior Olympic team is less experienced and not as smart as Motijunas? Isn't JV treated like a superstar in Lithuania?

[TheGoodDoctor]

As a Rap fan I'm a bit embarassed our fans put Val #1 in this poll....


Not that I don't think Valanciunas will be good...in fact he might turn out to be a great center but there is no way he is getting enough playing time and being a big enough focal point in the offence on a team that is going to be everything they can to make it in the playoffs to be up for ROY.

I think this will be between Davis and Lillard.

[raptors_star]

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[Blazing_royale]

Man, JV is going to average 4 and 4, with 4 fouls a games. People are going to come back to to this thread and laugh at Raptor fans.

I'll say Lillard or MKG.

whats their to laugh about? Raptors fan on realgm has a reputation of Raps in 4 already. Shouldn't be surprised that anything raptors related in realgm poll its Raps in 4. so JV wins ROY DUHH

[Absurdus]

So JV won Eurocup rising star award, Fiba European rising star of the year award, played for his country in the u16, u18, u19 (winning MVP every year) and also played on the senior Olympic team is less experienced and not as smart as Motijunas? Isn't JV treated like a superstar in Lithuania?

Yes, he have much bigger hype in media, but a lot of people treated him not so well because of his playing for Rytas. Maybe it sounds silly, but Lithuania have big rivalry over many years between Rytas and Zalgiris and both teams fans sometimes judge opposite team players without serious reasons.

By saying that Valanciunas is less experienced and smart, I was talking about off court things. Valanciunas is typical lithuanian by character - modest, confused, talking not to much. Motiejunas own other type - he is self-confident, already played and lived couple years in foreign countries. Shortly saying, Valanciunas is soft and Motiejunas is a tough guy. That is another reason why lithuanians see Motiejunas better in this league.

[raptors_star]

So JV won Eurocup rising star award, Fiba European rising star of the year award, played for his country in the u16, u18, u19 (winning MVP every year) and also played on the senior Olympic team is less experienced and not as smart as Motijunas? Isn't JV treated like a superstar in Lithuania?

Yes, he have much bigger hype in media, but a lot of people treated him not so well because of his playing for Rytas. Maybe it sounds silly, but Lithuania have big rivalry over many years between Rytas and Zalgiris and both teams fans sometimes judge opposite team players without serious reasons.

By saying that Valanciunas is less experienced and smart, I was talking about off court things. Valanciunas is typical lithuanian by character - modest, confused, talking not to much. Motiejunas own other type - he is self-confident, already played and lived couple years in foreign countries. Shortly saying, Valanciunas is soft and Motiejunas is a tough guy. That is another reason why lithuanians see Motiejunas better in this league.

Are you crazy? Jonas isn't anywhere close to being soft. This shows that you have no idea of what you are talking about.

[HSOB SIRHC]

I'll agree that JV might come off as soft spoken off the court compared to Montiejunas who has a cocky like attitude.

[Nuntius]

Lithuanians like to compare Valanciunas with other their rookie Motiejunas, and most of them are stating that Motiejunas is far better right now and that he would be more successful. Besides skills on the court, he is more self-confident, experienced and smarter too. And he is not even on this list.

Valanciunas is nothing like Motiejunas.

Valanciunas has the ideal size and frame for a Center. He also plays like a true Center unlike a lot of modern Centers. He takes most of his shots from inside the arc (despite having a J) and also shoots amazingly from the FT line.

Motiejunas has good size as well but he doesn't play like a true Center. It's clear that he wants to be a stretch 4. He tends to shoot a lot but his efficiency is only average. He is also a mediocre FT shooter despite fancying himself as a shooter (he has only shot higher than 70% twice while Val tends to hit more than 80% and sometimes close to 90%).

Motiejunas compares to Andrea Bargnani and Ryan Anderson.

Valanciunas compares to Roy Hibbert and Marc Gasol.

It's all a matter of playstyle. Big men with the traditional playstyle of Val are rare nowadays and a big commodity. Stretch 4s are quite common.

So, you're telling us that all 102 people who voted for JV are Raptors fans?[/quote]

Or lithuanians.

I'm not Lithuanian, though. I'm Greek. I just watched the 2012 EuroBasket and saw what Valanciunas can accomplish.

PS: Being cocky off the court does not actually help on the court.

[crgreen]

I'm a Charlotte fan and I voted for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist; this is no homerism as I think he will have the most impact as a rookie.

Davis might need a little time to adjust with his frame, aggressive defense and limited post moves.

Charlotte will not win many games this year but Gilchrist will stuff stat sheets and show people exactly how good he is, I am not claiming he will have a better career than Davis but I believe him to be more NBA ready and have more of an impact both offensively and defensively (in his rookie year)

The ESPN NBA Rookie Poll asked who is the best defender and Gilchrist got 28.6 percent of the vote compared to 14.3 percent to Davis.The rookies couldn't vote for themselves or college or pro teammates.

I optimistically expect 15/7/3/1/1 and some credibility for Charlotte.

Davis probably 12/9/1/2
Beal 14/5/2
Lillard 16/3/3
Valanciunas 12/7/1/1
Barnes 15/5/2
Robinson 14/9/1
Waiters 8/2/1
Drummond 4/4/1

Wow - those predictions are OUT there! Are people realizing that this past years rookie crop had ONE player who averaged more that 12.8 pts pre game, and NO one who averaged 7.8 rebs or better?

[Vindicater]

I'm a Charlotte fan and I voted for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist; this is no homerism as I think he will have the most impact as a rookie.

Davis might need a little time to adjust with his frame, aggressive defense and limited post moves.

Charlotte will not win many games this year but Gilchrist will stuff stat sheets and show people exactly how good he is, I am not claiming he will have a better career than Davis but I believe him to be more NBA ready and have more of an impact both offensively and defensively (in his rookie year)

The ESPN NBA Rookie Poll asked who is the best defender and Gilchrist got 28.6 percent of the vote compared to 14.3 percent to Davis.The rookies couldn't vote for themselves or college or pro teammates.

I optimistically expect 15/7/3/1/1 and some credibility for Charlotte.

Davis probably 12/9/1/2
Beal 14/5/2
Lillard 16/3/3
Valanciunas 12/7/1/1
Barnes 15/5/2
Robinson 14/9/1
Waiters 8/2/1
Drummond 4/4/1

Wow - those predictions are OUT there! Are people realizing that this past years rookie crop had ONE player who averaged more that 12.8 pts pre game, and NO one who averaged 7.8 rebs or better?

Shhh... Let people have the offseason to dream about how much their rookies will be awesome!

[Absurdus]

Lithuanians like to compare Valanciunas with other their rookie Motiejunas, and most of them are stating that Motiejunas is far better right now and that he would be more successful. Besides skills on the court, he is more self-confident, experienced and smarter too. And he is not even on this list.

Valanciunas is nothing like Motiejunas.

Valanciunas has the ideal size and frame for a Center. He also plays like a true Center unlike a lot of modern Centers. He takes most of his shots from inside the arc (despite having a J) and also shoots amazingly from the FT line.

Motiejunas has good size as well but he doesn't play like a true Center. It's clear that he wants to be a stretch 4. He tends to shoot a lot but his efficiency is only average. He is also a mediocre FT shooter despite fancying himself as a shooter (he has only shot higher than 70% twice while Val tends to hit more than 80% and sometimes close to 90%).

Motiejunas compares to Andrea Bargnani and Ryan Anderson.

Valanciunas compares to Roy Hibbert and Marc Gasol.

It's all a matter of playstyle. Big men with the traditional playstyle of Val are rare nowadays and a big commodity. Stretch 4s are quite common.

Comparison is just because of nationality. Lithuania never had two talented rookies in the same year.

[bledredwine]

all the J.V. votes lol

Gotta love the loyal Raptors nation.

I actually do think he'll transition well to NBA ball.... if there's anyone who knows how to go up strong, it's him. Someone like Pau Gasol could learn a thing or two from this guy. Of course, J.V. could learn a lot more from Pau lol

[Airball]

Motiejunas compares to Andrea Bargnani and Ryan Anderson.

LOL yeah in realgm maybe, where people see his youtube videos making some 3 pointers... You never seen him play before, don't you?

[Nuntius]

Comparison is just because of nationality. Lithuania never had two talented rookies in the same year.

Fair enough then.

[Nuntius]

Motiejunas compares to Andrea Bargnani and Ryan Anderson.

LOL yeah in realgm maybe, where people see his youtube videos making some 3 pointers... You never seen him play before, don't you?

Actually, I did. Prokom played in the Euroleague last season and I was watching their matches as I participated in Bwin's Euroleague Fantasy Challenge.

He did have a game in which he grabbed 21 rebounds and broke the Euroleague record against Union Olimpija and he improved his rebound average to 7.9 from 5.5 - 6.0 (of course, the 21 rebound game helps to skew those statistics when the sample is only 10 games) but his overall play confirmed that he is pretty much only a scoring big man yet. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's just that Val is a much more complete player as he plays both sides of the ball and is a stronger rebounder.

[xprt]

Motiejunas compares to Andrea Bargnani and Ryan Anderson.

LOL yeah in realgm maybe, where people see his youtube videos making some 3 pointers... You never seen him play before, don't you?

Actually, I did. Prokom played in the Euroleague last season and I was watching their matches as I participated in Bwin's Euroleague Fantasy Challenge.

He did have a game in which he grabbed 21 rebounds and broke the Euroleague record against Union Olimpija and he improved his rebound average to 7.9 from 5.5 - 6.0 (of course, the 21 rebound game helps to skew those statistics when the sample is only 10 games) but his overall play confirmed that he is pretty much only a scoring big man yet. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's just that Val is a much more complete player as he plays both sides of the ball and is a stronger rebounder.

Bargnani and Anderson comparision fails because his strongest skill is post moves he is more Pau than those two...

[Nuntius]

Bargnani and Anderson comparision fails because his strongest skill is post moves he is more Pau than those two...

It's not that Bargnani and Anderson do not have a post game. They just don't have the frame (or the will) to bang down low continuously and they have a good enough shot to compensate.

I could see this being the case for Motie as well since his frame is kinda slight at the moment.

[jcuuofd]

I'm gonna go with Thomas Robinson because out of the top 5 he is the best fit for his team. Demarcus Cousins is going to have a near all-star year at center and he will be on every teams scouting report. This will open up a lot of opportunities for Thomas Robinson who is probably the most NBA ready player in the draft. I think Robinson will basically be a more athletic version of David West. Cousins and Robinson will probably be the most dominant low post combination in the West.

Anthony Davis will have a better career, MKG also may have a better career, but they are both on horrible teams and will struggle to score. I can't think of a single rookie of the year who won it for being a great defender.

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[SOUL]

I say Beal.