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Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#1 » by dagger » Sat Sep 1, 2012 5:13 am

This artiicle holds some interesting insight into why the Lansing 3 weren't promoted during this season.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/0 ... strasburg/

Hutchison was 21 when he was called up to the majors ahead of schedule on April 21 because there were no better options in the system, and he had just 234.2 career minor-league innings under his belt.

Seven starts into his big-league career he made a conscious decision to create more power in his delivery and pushed his velocity up to 95 m.p.h., and three starts after that blew out his arm on his ninth pitch of a June 15 outing.

One key discussion point for the Blue Jays since has been on the importance of young pitchers logging at least 450-500 innings in the minors before graduating to the next level.

Hutchison underwent Tommy John surgery in early August after trying to rehab his elbow, and while Farrell stopped short of blaming his injury on the extra effort and relatively small body of overall work, they are both factors that are not easily overlooked.

"You take a young guy and you put him in this environment and the stress level increases ten-fold form what they've previously experienced," he explained. "At Dunedin, where you've got 600 people versus 42,000 with a third deck and every pitch you throw goes to the back of your baseball card, there's quite a bit of difference."

Once a pitcher gets 450-500 innings of work, particularly for those drafted out of high school, a rhythm and pace on the mound becomes more ingrained that is more repeatable at the big-league level.

"They know their deliveries better, they know their bodies better," said Farrell. "They've been in certain situations inside a game that the game doesn't speed up so much that they begin to overthrow consistently.

"That's where you see a lot of excess wear and tear on a young pitcher, that grinding mentality that can cause their body to be ahead of their arm ever so slightly but it's a cumulative effect, it builds up, things can get weak and that's where injuries take place."
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Farrell says that next season, if there was another pitcher in Hutchison's situation and the Blue Jays had other options for a callup, they'd probably handle things differently.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#2 » by SharoneWright » Sat Sep 1, 2012 6:33 am

Bruce Walton never noticed this?
he made a conscious decision to create more power in his delivery and pushed his velocity up to 95 m.p.h.

That's unfortunate.
and three starts after that blew out his arm on his ninth pitch of a June 15 outing.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#3 » by Michael Bradley » Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:23 pm

They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#4 » by baulderdash77 » Sat Sep 1, 2012 2:10 pm

Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.


That's the forgotten part of this season. Yes Hutch and Drabek went down, but they were not projected day 1 starters. Cecil flamed out as a starter in 2011 and we still counted on him. I don't know why anyone would count on McGowan like we did and the team didn't really plan any veteran contingency plans if things didn't work out.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#5 » by Swervin81 » Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:31 pm

Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.


The intention was to play the kids this season and see what we had this season, according to the plan he laid out when he came here, before making a playoff push in 2013.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#6 » by gei » Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:56 pm

Swervin81 wrote:
Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.


The intention was to play the kids this season and see what we had this season, according to the plan he laid out when he came here, before making a playoff push in 2013.

hahahahaha...

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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#7 » by dagger » Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:05 pm

Swervin81 wrote:
Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.


The intention was to play the kids this season and see what we had this season, according to the plan he laid out when he came here, before making a playoff push in 2013.



I looked back at some April interviews that AA gave and he didn't express such a plan. He wasn't going to toss away the season before it even started. Even today, he doesn't say this was a throw-away season. I think you're regurgitating the views of a lot of people here that this was a stepping stone to 2013.

Nor do I think the Jays were "perfectly content" to play the kids. They had no choice. AA certainly scoured the trade market last winter but it seems the price for a quality starter was too high.

What I like to know is what we could have gotten in a trade for the four prospects we gave up for Happ/Lyons.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#8 » by Santoki » Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:32 pm

dagger wrote:
Swervin81 wrote:
Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.


The intention was to play the kids this season and see what we had this season, according to the plan he laid out when he came here, before making a playoff push in 2013.



I looked back at some April interviews that AA gave and he didn't express such a plan. He wasn't going to toss away the season before it even started. Even today, he doesn't say this was a throw-away season. I think you're regurgitating the views of a lot of people here that this was a stepping stone to 2013.

Nor do I think the Jays were "perfectly content" to play the kids. They had no choice. AA certainly scoured the trade market last winter but it seems the price for a quality starter was too high.

What I like to know is what we could have gotten in a trade for the four prospects we gave up for Happ/Lyons.


If the price was high last winter, imagine what it will be like this winter. This is the one point that I've been trying to hammer into those who say this season was lost on injuries. Yes, we've suffered quite the unusual amount of injuries, but we had no depth at starting pitcher to begin the season. Drabek and Hutch had no business in the rotation and that's on AA. Now, when the regular starters get injured, it's tough to replace, but the team lacked depth overall and was already falling quickly out of the playoff race. I just hate to see this season be blamed solely on injuries and mask the real issues this team has - namely lack of starting rotation depth, front-end rotation quality, and quite a few gaps in the lineup. If we're counting on Rasmus, Escobar, Lind, Arencibia, and Sierra next season, we might as well not even tune in because we'll know the outcome.
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Re: Davidi: Lesson learned from Hutchinson's injury? 

Post#9 » by Wally West » Sun Sep 2, 2012 5:27 am

Michael Bradley wrote:They entered Spring Training perfectly content with Alvarez, Cecil, and McGowan as their bottom 3 starters. AA has no one to blame but himself for the lack of options that lead to Hutch's quick call-up. AA spent more on Frasor and Cordero than it took to sign Colon and Bedard. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.

Good point. But I think you've forgotten what happened with Colon and Bedard this season. We should've tried for Brett Anderson or AJ Griffin when the opportunity presented itself near the deadline.
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