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BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II

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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1501 » by mpharris36 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:28 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Only thing i dont like about your team Harris, is Markieff as a backup center and the fact that Both Gibson and Hickson should be 28-30 mpg players and one of them are going to get less playing time then they deserve because both of them really cant play center.

And Markieff is listed at 6'10 but there is no way possible he is 6'10. So outside of that i like what you have done.


Yeah he is probably closer to 6'9 then 6'10 but he makes up for his lack of height for his strength and low post defense which he is really good at. Vs teams like yours I will have to definitely double down on your bigs. But the league has changed there aren't too many back to the basket centers in the league outside of Dwight and Bynum so most teams can't hurt me there.

Also guys like Bynum and Dwight will have to go out and guard Morris on the perimeter so it works both ways
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1502 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:29 pm

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Wait did you just say Jose gets his assist because his teammates hit lucky jumpshots? Nobody I repeat nobody is putting up 9 dimes a game because on luck.

And they went with Kyle over Jose because Kyle is much younger and has the potential to get better, you don't keep a older player on a young team when you have a chance at a younger better option. I didn't think I had to explain this.

I'm not one to believe everything on twitter, the Guy was probably getting a backlash of fans hating on Nelson contract so made something up, even if its a fact numbers are not gonna be far off.


lol at justifying that Lowery is worth a 5-10 Lottery pick. Calderon is getting old okay so why not Keep ur Lottery pick and Pick a guy to develop behind Calderon for another year if he is in Fact so Good :wink: the fact that the raptors Also Pursues Nash tells you that they arent happy with Calderon.

Do i have to explain everything to u.

as far as nelsons contract goes. ive seen a Difference of atleast 6 Million in total money(out there in the Rumor Mix). hes probably Banking closer to 10 million in a very front Loaded deal


1st off a lottery pick is not a sure thing to pan out, kyle is what he is and getting better. They want after nash clearly to sell seats.

2nd you go after a star if its a upgrade, every damn team in the nba wanted nash, are you really gonna compare nash to jose? That's just dumb.

Back to my point a avg pg does not avg 9 dimes, jose is a better pure pg then nels
I see I do have to explain everything.


1st) a lottery pick is almost always Assured of Being atleast a rotational Player unless ur Fran Vazquez(name drop on an Not allowed to pick guy).

2nd) Nash isnt a star anymore. His defense makes Hedos defense look All-defensive team. the only reason a team would sign him is just for his name and passing but other than that hes pretty much washed up. i know atleast 2-3 teams that werent insterested in Nash Including the Magic, u got the Bulls, Bobcats, Cavs, etc... all who didnt want him. the only team that had a good need for PG was the Fakers.

now back to calderon yes hes a Better Pure PG but both have bad defense and Jose can only run the Pick and roll and thats all on offense. Calderon Isnt an elite PG nor has he ever been Elite. u could make the case for Earlier in his career he was good or above average but he is on the decline just like Nelson is.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1503 » by mpharris36 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:30 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:Only thing i dont like about your team Harris, is Markieff as a backup center and the fact that Both Gibson and Hickson should be 28-30 mpg players and one of them are going to get less playing time then they deserve because both of them really cant play center.

And Markieff is listed at 6'10 but there is no way possible he is 6'10. So outside of that i like what you have done.


markieff had a lot more burn at SF and PF, not C


hickson is definitely more of a C than morris


no way you are thinking about his broth "eddy" morris.

Markieff is a legit PF who can play occasional C...he has never played SF...that is his twin :wink:
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1504 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:31 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Which is why i said i didnt like him at center. Harris has Markieff listed as a backup C, not a PF/SF.

i agree. Hes a stretch 4 guy IMO. wouldnt be pretty at all as a stretch 5.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1505 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:32 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Which is why i said i didnt like him at center. Harris has Markieff listed as a backup C, not a PF/SF.


yeah, i was agreeing with you. i had morris in orlando BAT
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1506 » by Fury » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:33 pm

Markieff is more likely to play center than SF.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1507 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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markieff had a lot more burn at SF and PF, not C


hickson is definitely more of a C than morris


no way you are thinking about his broth "eddy" morris.

Markieff is a legit PF who can play occasional C...he has never played SF...that is his twin :wink:


http://www.82games.com/1112/11PHO9.HTM#bypos


in college i think he was more of a C. he developed a 3 point shot as well while in the NBA. he's more of a stretch PF than C.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1508 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:34 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:Only thing i dont like about your team Harris, is Markieff as a backup center and the fact that Both Gibson and Hickson should be 28-30 mpg players and one of them are going to get less playing time then they deserve because both of them really cant play center.

And Markieff is listed at 6'10 but there is no way possible he is 6'10. So outside of that i like what you have done.


markieff had a lot more burn at SF and PF, not C


hickson is definitely more of a C than morris


no way you are thinking about his broth "eddy" morris.

Markieff is a legit PF who can play occasional C...he has never played SF...that is his twin :wink:


Occasional at center really bro cuz his pT sure Seems to say SF and PF alot more than C.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1509 » by mpharris36 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:35 pm

Fury wrote:Markieff is more likely to play center than SF.


thank you! I agree

In this league I would like someone to name me a backup center that is going to give him so much trouble that I he can't play 15 minutes a game?
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1510 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:36 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Fury wrote:Markieff is more likely to play center than SF.


thank you! I agree

In this league I would like someone to name me a backup center that is going to give him so much trouble that I he can't play 15 minutes a game?


fury is incorrect though. i just showed you.


http://www.82games.com/1112/11PHO9.HTM#bypos


maybe on other teams, but on the Suns he definitely did not really play C, and is more likely to play SF.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1511 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:36 pm

but it may also be because of the personnel on the court at that time (someone else more suited for C/PF, so they make him play SF.
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Post#1512 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:36 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Fury wrote:Markieff is more likely to play center than SF.


thank you! I agree

In this league I would like someone to name me a backup center that is going to give him so much trouble that I he can't play 15 minutes a game?

Vucevic, Udoh. while ur playing him 15 mins Howards gonna stay in and Punish you 8-)
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1513 » by mpharris36 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:37 pm

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Occasional at center really bro cuz his pT sure Seems to say SF and PF alot more than C.
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He also played on the Suns who had a lot of guys listed at C that could play anywhere else. Gortat and Lopez can't play anywhere else but Center. And also if guys like Frye and Jeffries can get 10-15 minutes Markieff sure can get 10-15 minutes at the center position in a backup role.
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Post#1515 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:38 pm

i'll bet you dahntay jones for my 362 pick that he got more playing time at SF than C :D
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Post#1516 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:39 pm

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Occasional at center really bro cuz his pT sure Seems to say SF and PF alot more than C.
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He also played on the Suns who had a lot of guys listed at C that could play anywhere else. Gortat and Lopez can't play anywhere else but Center. And also if guys like Frye and Jeffries can get 10-15 minutes Markieff sure can get 10-15 minutes at the center position in a backup role.


im gonna have fun watching Morris try to defend anyone thats a starter at center. ive already set my rotation up and Gortat is gonna have fun with morris 8-)
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1517 » by mpharris36 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:39 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
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Fury wrote:Markieff is more likely to play center than SF.


thank you! I agree

In this league I would like someone to name me a backup center that is going to give him so much trouble that I he can't play 15 minutes a game?

Vucevic, Udoh. while ur playing him 15 mins Howards gonna stay in and Punish you 8-)


Udoh is a defensive guy, he has no low post game and is 6'10 while morris even though listed at 6'10 is probbaly more 6'9. I have no concerns that Morris wont be able to guard and box out Udoh. And Vucevic???? really
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1518 » by br7knicks » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:39 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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Occasional at center really bro cuz his pT sure Seems to say SF and PF alot more than C.
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He also played on the Suns who had a lot of guys listed at C that could play anywhere else. Gortat and Lopez can't play anywhere else but Center. And also if guys like Frye and Jeffries can get 10-15 minutes Markieff sure can get 10-15 minutes at the center position in a backup role.


yeah, that's essentially what i just posted before, while you were probably writing this. i'm not saying he can't play C, i just think it'd be better if you put someone that had a lot more time at C to be there (Hickson played majority of 08-09 and 10-11 at C), then put Morris as your stretch 4.
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Re: BAT 8.0 TRADE DISCUSSION (DRAFT IN OTHER THREAD) PART II 

Post#1519 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Sep 3, 2012 7:39 pm

maybe 1 on 1 Markieff will be a decent option, but in terms of rebounding against legit 7 foot 260 guys or contesting penetrators.

But if Purp can play spot mins at Center, then i guess Markieff can as well.
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