Ray Allen predictions

Heat fan06 · Post #1 » by **Heat fan06** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:06 pm

Is 13 points per game on 46% from the field and 50% from three a good chance of happening?

how you see his stats being? it's exciting to think about the looks he will get.

MrTree · Post #2 » by **MrTree** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:40 pm

Everything will be about efficiency from Ray. We need him to rack them up on a limited number of shots to keep the driving lanes open.

caliban · Post #3 » by **caliban** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:09 pm

would be delighted if he could shoot the 3-ball at last seasons .453% (career high) on 5 attempts per game. an increase would be insane and probably to much to ask for. allens points per game last season was 14.2 on 10.7 fga per game. no idea on how many shoots he will get after bosh & lewade gets their 70 points per. as long as we can go back to/increase the offensive efficiency of the 2010-2011 regular-season I'm happy.

MrTree sums it up;"everything will be about efficiency from ray"

Time4War · Post #4 » by **Time4War** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:11 pm

He will make a minimum of three 3 pointers per game.

Mars · Post #5 » by **Mars** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:12 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7KGG681Cd0[/youtube]

SmushedPennies · Post #6 » by **SmushedPennies** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:08 pm

So hard to tell how big of a role he'll have. Will defenses play him tightly and allow single team post coverage or open driving lanes on his side of the floor? How many plays will they run for him?

I think 50% 3-pt shooting is a lot to ask for, considering the amount of attempts he'll likely take. More unlikely when considering he'll be adjusting to new teammates for, at least, the first part of the season.

If I had to make a prediction: 12.5 on 44% from 3 and 47% overall, making 2.2 3's per game

twozeroMM · Post #7 » by **twozeroMM** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:16 pm

I would say something around 12ppg on a bad day. Hoping we have a lot of those games where he just doesn't miss.

raps_aviator · Post #8 » by **raps_aviator** » Tue Sep 4, 2012 11:50 pm

About
12 ppg, 2-3 threes a game and a few jumpers a game in approx 28 minutes a game

TRG · Post #9 » by **TRG** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:58 am

I still can't believe we have this guy on our team. :lol:

Our offense is literally going to be unstoppable this season I can't wait!

This IsMy House · Post #10 » by **This IsMy House** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:50 am

Many many wide open 3's.

HEAT111 · Post #11 » by **HEAT111** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:03 am

We got the three point king in Ray Allen, the 2011 NBA All=Star 3 point champion in James Jones, we got the three pointer spurt in chalmers, we got the defensive assassin in Battier and the three pointer cowboy from the desperado north of Dekota Mike Miller.

420 · Post #12 » by **420** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 8:25 am

I predict Ray's gonna help in more ways than just 3pt shooting. There are many intangibles he'll bring that will improve this team.

I'm glad that Wade finally has the solid backup SG he's never had in his career. I hope Ray Allen and Wade stay healthy and have a great season.

koko88 · Post #13 » by **koko88** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 12:10 pm

14 ppg
1.9 rpg
1.5 apg
0.9 spg
0.1 bpg
90% FT
45% FG
49% 3P
28 mpg

wallsfamily · Post #14 » by **wallsfamily** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:17 pm

Another benefit is Ray is a dangerous slasher! And Rashard and Lebron could do Pick and pop with cutters!
What a dangerous team. If we had a post scorer who hits a jump hook or turnaround we would be impossible to stop! Ready to see Lebron and Wade find the spot up shooters!

Big Dee Chi-Born · Post #15 » by **Big Dee Chi-Born** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 2:43 pm

Im not so sure about Ray's on-court production because I used to secretly pray that Doc would over play the declining Ray Allen. He has come up very short the past couple of playoffs and has never been all that clutch to me to be perfectly honest! The reason Im happy we signed Ray is because Im hoping his work ethic rubs off on Wade. I hope he's 100% so he can keep his pre-game routine the same so he can pull Wade in with him. Wade needs a vet that plays his position that show him how to stay in tip top shape as he gets older and starts to pass his prime. Anything after that should be a bonus...

Mars · Post #16 » by **Mars** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:02 pm

Big Dee Chi-Born wrote:...He has come up very short the past couple of playoffs and has never been all that clutch to me to be perfectly honest!...

Ray was dealing with bone spurs in his ankle for the entirety of last year's playoffs. Most players would have opted for surgery during the regular season. He pushed through the pain and his postseason numbers suffered as a result.

Ray's playoff numbers when he was healthy in 2010-11:

18.9 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.4 APG, 1.2 SPG, .523 FG, .571 FG3, .960 FT, 40.1 MIN

I'm curious why you'd have questions about his ability to hit timely, pressure filled shots. He's made a career of it in both the regular season and playoffs.

Noodle Arm · Post #17 » by **Noodle Arm** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 4:00 pm

I'm not going to even try to predict numbers. I just hope he hits his shots efficiently and that the team finds easier ways to get him open. I hated watching him on the Celtics constantly running around the court and around Garnett's "legal" screens and whatnot. I hope he gets the James Jones Special (in other words, camping out in the corner for a wide open 3).

SmushedPennies · Post #18 » by **SmushedPennies** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:37 pm

He'll spot up in corners a lot, like he also did in Boston, but part of Ray's game is running around off screens. He's brilliant at it, and his physical conditioning and know-how make him better than anyone in the league (other than maybe RIP, who might be even with Ray). That would add an element to our offense we've tried with Miller and Jones but never actually had. No reason not to bring that down to Miami.

420 wrote:I'm glad that Wade finally has the solid backup SG he's never had in his career. I hope Ray Allen and Wade stay healthy and have a great season.

This is a key element. Both coming off surgeries presents a lot of questions, but could be a major plus. I heard from a career-long Ray Allen fan that he played some of his best ball after his last bone spur surgery before his first with Boston. I've also heard that Ray was one of Boston's best players early last year before the spurs acted up.

Wade seems to be in great shape, unlike after his last surgery. They'll help each other's recovery go even smoother. As long as neither tries to push too hard too early, they should make a great SG duo this season.

Big Dee Chi-Born wrote:Im not so sure about Ray's on-court production because I used to secretly pray that Doc would over play the declining Ray Allen. He has come up very short the past couple of playoffs and has never been all that clutch to me to be perfectly honest! The reason Im happy we signed Ray is because Im hoping his work ethic rubs off on Wade. I hope he's 100% so he can keep his pre-game routine the same so he can pull Wade in with him. Wade needs a vet that plays his position that show him how to stay in tip top shape as he gets older and starts to pass his prime. Anything after that should be a bonus...

Mars brought up all the necessary points about the bone spurs and everything else...I'm appalled you questioned the man's clutchness, though. Get your butt on youtube right now. The dude doesn't hit rim in the clutch. He's hit heaps and heaps of game tie-ers, winners, etc.

You do bring up a great point about his work ethic hopefully affecting Dwyane, though. No better example for him than Ray.

Those 2011 playoff numbers by Allen are out of hand, BTW.

MartyConlonJr · Post #19 » by **MartyConlonJr** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 9:48 pm

So much 3pt shooting:

PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Shane Battier / James Jones
SG - Ray Allen / Mike Miller
PG - Mario Chalmers

Ray Allen - 1st all time in 3PT FG, 34th all time in 3PT% at .400, last year at .453 3PT%
Rashard Lewis - 8th all time in 3PT FG, 63rd all time in 3PT% at .388 3PT%
Mike Miller - 24th all time in 3PT FG, 21st all time in 3PT% at .406, last year at .453 3PT%
Shane Battier - 62nd all time in 3PT FG, 82nd all time in 3PT% at .382 3PT%
James Jones - 150th all time in 3PT FG, 28th all time in 3PT% at .402, last year at .404 3PT%
Mario Chalmers - last year at .388 3PT%

Big Dee Chi-Born · Post #20 » by **Big Dee Chi-Born** » Wed Sep 5, 2012 10:01 pm

Mars wrote:
Big Dee Chi-Born wrote:...He has come up very short the past couple of playoffs and has never been all that clutch to me to be perfectly honest!...

Ray was dealing with bone spurs in his ankle for the entirety of last year's playoffs. Most players would have opted for surgery during the regular season. He pushed through the pain and his postseason numbers suffered as a result.

Ray's playoff numbers when he was healthy in 2010-11:

18.9 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.4 APG, 1.2 SPG, .523 FG, .571 FG3, .960 FT, 40.1 MIN

I'm curious why you'd have questions about his ability to hit timely, pressure filled shots. He's made a career of it in both the regular season and playoffs.

But come playoff time Ray has a way of disappearing like most jumpshooters do. Does anybody remember the 2010 Finals when Ray set the record for most 3's made and he couldnt make a shot after that gm 2 performance? I do. I remember him coming up short at UConn, Milwaukee and Seattle as well. And those UConn and Bucks teams were often heavy favorites! Ray locks up under pressure far more often than he shows up. There's a reason why Boston was always looking to move him first! Was it because he's so clutch? Because he can lock down defensively? This isnt just a last season thing here people. Lets not try to turn the next man's trash into our gold! Getting Ray was a great PR move, but we would've been better off if he had re-signed with Boston for a high number and eating up their cap. We'll seehow this plays out though...