'12-13 season sleepers

[Alex_De_Large]

I need some help guys. Thank you.

[sabonis]

eddy curry, he sleeps pretty darn good.

anyway I think Dragic around 30th pick is a gem, I think he will be great in Phoenix with his mentor coach and 2 great bigs to feed.

[SuperRaptorsFan]

Aaron Brooks, Vasquez, BJ Mullens(if available in last 2 rounds of a deep league), Damian Lillard, Brandan Knight, Asik(Only for rebounds and Blocks), OJ Mayo, Valanciunas, Derrick Favors

I think Jeff Green, Afflalo, Kawhi Leonard and Robin Lopez should be playing more too

[Hypnotoad]

Depends on what site rankings are used, where a guy is expected to be drafted has a huge impact on his sleeper status.

Using the Dragic example above (who I do like), if he's going in the 3rd-5th round, you can argue that he's properly valued because of the risk that he was a flash in the pan like Darren Collison a few years ago. If he's going closer to the 8th round, than he's a great value pick (or "sleeper) given that he was a monster as a starter last year. You can kind of say the same thing about Eric Gordon and Steph Curry, who have the ability to put up monster numbers, but can be had later in the draft this year due to injury concerns.

I think it's really hard to make picks without that information. I like Klay Thompson as a guy that could get you 15 points, 3 assists and a ton of 3's, but he might be too high depending on the default rankings. Derrick Favors will be a GREAT pick if Jefferson or Millsap get traded or hurt. If you're in a slightly deeper league, Kawhi Leonard and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist could stuff stat sheets, but probably don't have superstar potential so are tougher picks in shallow leagues. Other than that, like I said, it's really early to try to determine who is going where.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Bogut.

[Stix]

Refer to Avatar.... you're welcome.

[paul_aynilian]

I would look at Orlando big man Andrew Nicholson. Currently ahead of him you have Vucevic and Ayon. Don't see either of those guys being NBA ready. I could see Nicholson being the starter by All-Star break time.

[SuperRaptorsFan]

Big Baby > Ayon > Vucevic > Nicholson > Al Harrington > McRoberts

too competitive

[paul_aynilian]

Raptors Fan-

I agree it's very competitive, but I have 2 points to rebut with
1- Have you ever watched Gustavo Ayon play basketball? I don't care what the sabermetricians say, he will never start in the NBA.
2- Reports out of Orlando is that they are not done making moves following the Bynum deal they were involved with. Harrington is almost certainly going to be dealt and Vucevic isn't out of the question.

Again, I completely see your point, there's a log jam of 4/5 type guys on Orlando...I just think Ayon sucks and Harrington/Vucevic may not be there post-trade-deadline

[patentboy23]

There's names out there that you would think are sleepers and then everyone else is still snatching them up. IF we say round 8 and up are "sleepers" or potential, here's some names: Lillard, Kawhi, Hayward, and one of my favorites: Bismack Biyombo, poor man's Ibaka. I'm really high on stacking strong rebounding shot blockers and Favors def. fits the bill. I'd grab him as a handcuff in case Milsap or Jefferson get moved or have their mins cut. Favors easily has 10-10 and 2 blocks potential. I'm high on Bismack because blocks and steal come at a premium and are probably the hardest stats to come by. Bismack has a good shot of averaging 2+ blocks. I've been drafting Bismack as my 5th big man and pairing him with great shot blocking lines: Pau, Bynum, Demarcus, and Hibbert. Have that in your lineup each week and you'd be set with Bismack as your finishing piece.

[Raptor_Guy]

Klay Thompson is projected to be a 60-70 pick which is an absolute steal in my opinion, especially if Curry gets hurt again. Either way, hes a guy who can put up 15ppg on good percentages while giving you lots of 3s and a decent amount of steals.

Also, I notice Tony Parker is ranked around 60 as well, I know he doesnt get many steals or 3 pointers but cmon, getting an MVP candidate from last season with the 60th pick is pretty good.

[Alex_De_Large]

How about Derrick Favors having a breakout season? those are the sleepers, guys who have a huge improvement.

[Apathy]

Sleepers is a bit overblown, I'll just talk about players who I think have big seasons coming:

Paul Millsap: Been putting up elite numbers for a minute now. 2nd-round value.

Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, Gordan Dragic, Jeremy Lin: Super legit studs. Can make first-round cases for Irving/Lowry, 2nd-round cases for Dragic/Lin.

Batum/Ibaka: Top-10 ceilings.

Paul George: 2nd round ceiling.

Ryan Anderson: Willing to gamble on 18/8/2.53pm season, which could be 1st-round status

Ersan Ilyasova: Yeah, a Fluke Rule season, but he's only 25.

Steph Curry: 1st rounder to me; injury concerns don't bother me, although maybe they should.

Klay Thompson: The new Danilo Gallinari. Top 25 potential, perfect guy to own because of good percentages/tons of 3s. Usually you only get one or the other.

Jeff Teague: Finished 34th on Player Rater last year. Much more will be asked of him this year.

Damian Lillard: Iono, Hollinger's rater hated him but everything else points to a huge rookie season. Never seen him play so can't say for sure, but I'm starting to buy the hype.

Gordon Hayward: Been a fan since he was a rookie, finally figured it out last year. Big year coming.

Elton Brand: Steady, solid veteran. Wouldn't be surprised if he slipped to the 100s on draft day; people hate players of his ilk. Lock to return top-75 value imo.

Andre Miller: See above.

Greivis Vasquez: Because Rivers sucks.

Jrue Holiday: Being handed the keys to the car. Though he'd take the jump last year; he regressed, but he's still super young, has the coach's favor and offseason reports are so far so good.

Mo Williams: Fantasy-friendly game, lot of talent around him and the clear starter for a team desperate for outside shooting.

Kenneth Faried/Nikola Pekovic: Monster upside; may slip under the radar.

[Bank Shot]

Good list Apathy. Lowry is way too low in mocks right now. I don't get it.

I'd also like to add Kirilenko. Looked awesome overseas and Minny needs him badly. I like Asik a lot too, especially if you're grabbing Dwight early.

Also, Dudley's not going to be a stud but he'll outperform his draft spot.

[niQ]

Completely forgot about Mo Williams. good call.