trade Question

[MetroDrugUnit]

Need help with a trade proposal. 12 team PPR League. I have Arian Foster as my RB#1 and Ridley, Spiller as a platoon RB#2 Also have D. Thomas, McClain, McCluster. WR #1 is Wallace, WR#2 is Decker and WR#3 is Mecheam / Blackmon.

I want Tate from another guy, turned down his first offer but this one feel like I should at least entertain. I really like Decker this year but there is risk there. I feel like I need Tate based on my weak RB's. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Players out: Decker, Blackmon and Luck (My Only Backup to Stafford)

Players in: Dez Bryant, Tate, Cobb and A. Dalton

[Paydro70]

I think people are a little too high on Tate... to me he's no better than Spiller. The trade seems OK though, the main WRs are a pretty even swap so if you're in love with Tate, Blackmon seems like a fair price.

[vincecarter4pres]

Take that trade and run. Take it immediately before he cancels the offer. Take it now.

Foster might sit Sunday and there's a chance you'll be dealing with this a lot this year.

You get the highest upside receiver as well and Cobb has a chance to wind up a big part of Green Bay's game plan later in the season if he can get the playbook down a little better and not fumble.

Do. This. Now.


You'll be kicking yourself with steel toes later this season if you don't.

Ridley is a fine RB2 BTW, don't worry about a platoon. He'll be an every week starter soon enough.

[NW7]

I think this is a bit too much to pay for Tate.

I like Decker a tiny bit more than Bryant this year. Both have their risks or question marks, but I just feel like Decker is going to have a huge year. Add to the fact that this is a PPR league. frankly I don't even think it becomes close between then. Decker appears to be Peyton's favorite target, that bodes well for a PPR league.

Same with looking at the Blackmon and Cobb match up in this trade. I think Blackmon might end up being a decent WR3 this year and will be even better for a PPR league. On the other hand, I do like Cobb in general; however, I don't think this is the year we see big fantasy (or rather consistent) production from him. Next year is when we see that production in my mind. Especially once we see how the Jennings situation plays out next summer, along with James Jones and Donald Driver. Right now I think Cobb is an inconsistent third option on that Packers squad, next year he's either the unquestioned number 3 or number 2 WR on that team.

Finally, Luck I think has a chance to be a decent QB in fantasy this year. Dalton is a nice real life QB, but nothing special in fantasy. There will be loads of guys you can find on the waiver wire that will offer just as good production as he can on your QB's bye week in 10 man leagues. Dalton has pretty much a zero percent chance of being relevant this year, whereas I can't say I would be surprised if Luck is a guy that is producing well in fantasy come late this year. Luck could be a very nice trade chip at some point.

Nothing to compare Tate; however, I think that the value you lose in all 3 of those prior players more then out weighs the gain of Tate in this trade. I would explore different trades with this Tate owner if possible. This trade is not something that is in your favor.

[vincecarter4pres]

Please tell me you took this before the other person pulled it off the table?

[NW7]

Please tell me you took this before the other person pulled it off the table?

I still worry about fantasy scoring consistency with Cobb long term. I liked how the Packers utilized him out of the back field in today's game, but I wonder if that was just because the running game was going no where against the 49ers or it that's something we see long term. Either way if Cobb can keep it up he'll be a steal and definitely make this trade look silly for you.

Needless to say my analysis on the trade is not looking too hot .

[LApwnd]

yep should've done the trade, I'd actually would've done it just for Dez, the 3 players OP is giving up aren't legit #1's yet and probably wont be on a consistent basis.....and Cobb is all around type player, you might get lucky with some scores from kick/punt return if your league allows that.

[vincecarter4pres]

Trade was the no brainer of no brainers even though it isn't a ripoff.

Anyone who rejected this out-thunk themselves trying too hard to be smart, no offense.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Rather then make a new thread I will recycle this one if that is ok with you guys.

My question is I am in a Fantasy League my team is like this

QB 1 Tom Brady
QB 2 Joe Flacco
RB 1 Green-Ellis
RB 2 CJ Spiller
WR 1 Julio Jones
WR 2 Hakeem Nicks
TE: Aaron Hernandez
RB/WR3 Nate Washington
Defense: Baltimore
Kicker Sabastian Jankowski


Bench: QB: Carson Palmer RB: Doug Martin (Tampa Bay) WR: Hayward Bay RB: Mark Ingram TE: Heath Miller

My question is somebody offered me a trade he wants to trade me Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson and Demariyus Thomas for Hakeem Nicks, Joe Flacco and both Heath Miller and CJ Spiller or he wants to take out Thomas and just do the above deal with out Spiller and Heath Miller and Thomas. I am thinking I should take it and run.
Only problem is I am not too thrilled with going forward with just Doug Martin, Ingram and Ellis as my RB's

Any thoughts?

[Maritimer]

Vick/Jackson for Nicks/Flacco is a trade I'd do if I were you, but I'm willing to buy low on Eagles. The drop from Nicks to Jackson is a drop from, let's say, a borderline top 10 to a guy who could be top 20. Last year (in ESPN standard scoring, which is where I play), that's a drop from 162 points for the year (Mike Wallace) to 137 (Dwayne Bowe). That difference of 25 points is about 1.5 points a week, something Vick will make up on Flacco with ease. Now, if you view Jackson as being significantly lower than the 20th WR, then you can rethink things, but I'd be willing to pull the trigger based on Vick's ability to win you weeks outright.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah the one with Spiller is a vehement negatory.

The other one is interesting.

On the surface I would say yeah, take that. DeSean feels like he's going to have a big season. He's never going to get a ton of receptions, but if he stays healthy a 70 reception year sounds very possible and for Jackson that is major yardage and approaching double digit TD's.

Nicks I like a lot as long as his foot pain doesn't distract him much longer. He's a big time receiver. But you have Julio, who's my pick to lead the league in yardage and unseat Cal as the #1 WR in fantasy this year, so he covers for you.

BTW, your Flex play should be Doug Martin all day. This kid is legit solid and he's got a mainly great schedule and will get a Ray Rice like big time 3 down feature back workload.

He should absolutely be in your starting lineup somehow basically every week.

Spiller is a monster though.

Flacco I think will blow up some this year, but I just don't have faith in a guy who hovers around 3600 yards every year to suddenly be among the actual fantasy elite and throw 4500+ with 30 something TD's, especially on that team. In a 2 QB league there's nothing wrong with him though, I like him, but Vick when healthy is a very good most weeks. He had a 4 INT game last week and was still a middle of the pack scorer.

I'd say do this deal and then look to move Law Firm and one of your WR's for a top buy low WR like a Dwayne Bowe, Antonio Brown or say maybe Maclin or a sneaky good WR like Stevie Johnson.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Maritimer and VC4P thanks for the info. Yeah I pulled the deal off last night gave up Heath Miller, Mark Ingrahm, Nicks and Flacco for DeSean Jackson, Vick and Ford (Raiders wideout). Might drop Ford and see who is out there cause if Bowe is on the FA market I will claim him or somebody like that or there is always Dallas Clark but I don't think he the same fantasy guy without Payton Manning so I might leave him

[vincecarter4pres]

Tight End's to add who might be on your waiver wire in order:

Pitta
Bennett
Tamme

[Mr Swagtastic]

Would you guys move Nate Washington and Aaron Hernandez for Jordy Nelson and Chris Cooley or Celek?

Got that offered to me, I think Jordy could put up 70+ percent of his numbers last year. Only thing scaring me is how good Hernandez could be with Brady I think some scouts said he will have more TD's then Gronk this year

[vincecarter4pres]

No I wouldn't do that.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Sorry to bump this old thread but I got offered this deal.

His: Matt Staffard and Chris Johnson

for

My: Carson Palmer, Michael Tunrer, DeSean Jackson

Palmer is my bench QB since I have Brady as my starter. I just think it's a bad deal for me as Tuner and Jackson are much better opions for me then Johnson could be plus Johnson has been a below average player this year.

[BossHoggin]

Sorry to bump this old thread but I got offered this deal.

His: Matt Staffard and Chris Johnson

for

My: Carson Palmer, Michael Tunrer, DeSean Jackson

Palmer is my bench QB since I have Brady as my starter. I just think it's a bad deal for me as Tuner and Jackson are much better opions for me then Johnson could be plus Johnson has been a below average player this year.

CJ has a nice schedule, and Turner can easily fall off too

e: @Buf, Ind, @Jac, @Ind, NYJ, Jac
?: GB
h: Chi, @Mia, Hou

only 3 bad matchups, and 6 good ones

Turner has NO twice and Carolina as his good games

Schedule isn't everything though. But I wouldn't be against trying just CJ for Turner.

But as it is, you don't need Stafford, Palmer is okay for Brady's bye. You don't need to lose a good second WR either.