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The Liggins era is over 

Post#1 » by drsd » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:34 am

The Oklahoma City Thunder signed guards DeAndre Liggins and Andy Rautins to contracts, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Sam Presti. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Liggins (6-6, 209 pounds) saw action in 17 games during the 2011-12 season as a member of the Orlando Magic where he registered averages of 1.9 points and 0.9 rebounds in 6.8 minutes.

After spending three years at the University of Kentucky, Liggins was selected in the second round (No. 53 overall) of the 2011 draft by the Orlando Magic.


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Liggins joins former Wildcat Daniel Orton in Oklahoma City, which made it to the NBA Finals last year before losing to the Miami Heat. Orton played with Liggins in Orlando last year.


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Re: The Liggins era is over 

Post#2 » by p0peye » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:26 am

We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.
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Post#3 » by tiderulz » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:10 pm

p0peye wrote:We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.


yeah, but they also signed Thabeet, drafted Cole Aldrich who has done nothing. They are human and make mistakes like everyone else.
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Post#4 » by ChosenSavior » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:16 pm

tiderulz wrote:
p0peye wrote:We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.


yeah, but they also signed Thabeet, drafted Cole Aldrich who has done nothing. They are human and make mistakes like everyone else.


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Post#5 » by Orium » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:06 pm

The paradigm has shifted. It is now OKC who is trying to copy the ORL model.
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Post#6 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:34 pm

Orium wrote:The paradigm has shifted. It is now OKC who is trying to copy the ORL model.

to do that they would have to trade a Lewis for Gilbert kinda swap and a replicate the suns like trade. :wink:

they should do that with us and we get Durant and ibaka and Harden 8-)

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Re: The Liggins era is over 

Post#7 » by Def Swami » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:06 pm

tiderulz wrote:
p0peye wrote:We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.


yeah, but they also signed Thabeet, drafted Cole Aldrich who has done nothing. They are human and make mistakes like everyone else.

thing is there mistakes aren't catastrophic; they don't cripple them. they're low risk moves.
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Post#8 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:32 pm

tiderulz wrote:
p0peye wrote:We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.


yeah, but they also signed Thabeet, drafted Cole Aldrich who has done nothing. They are human and make mistakes like everyone else.

signing thabeet for almost minimum as well as liggins and orton arent gonna cripple their team. worse case they wasted a spot on a roster for a year which isnt that big seeing how they would likely be the bottom 3 of the roster.

aldrich probably was a miss but they needed a Center and the only center who looks worth something at this time would be Seraphin but everything can look better or worse in hindsight.
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Re: The Liggins era is over 

Post#9 » by tiderulz » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:38 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
p0peye wrote:We did or should have much better insight than OKC as to what Liggins and Orton upside is, considering the time spent here and practices conducted, but I just find it weird that a proven franchise for talent evaluation (that everybody lately talks about building team OKC way) deems our players worth giving a contract and we don't.


yeah, but they also signed Thabeet, drafted Cole Aldrich who has done nothing. They are human and make mistakes like everyone else.

signing thabeet for almost minimum as well as liggins and orton arent gonna cripple their team. worse case they wasted a spot on a roster for a year which isnt that big seeing how they would likely be the bottom 3 of the roster.

aldrich probably was a miss but they needed a Center and the only center who looks worth something at this time would be Seraphin but everything can look better or worse in hindsight.


not saying they are crippling moves. Saying that they miss on talent too.
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Post#10 » by AdamTheGreek » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:48 pm

We're going to regret letting Liggins leave.
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Re: The Liggins era is over 

Post#11 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:54 pm

tiderulz wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:signing thabeet for almost minimum as well as liggins and orton arent gonna cripple their team. worse case they wasted a spot on a roster for a year which isnt that big seeing how they would likely be the bottom 3 of the roster.

aldrich probably was a miss but they needed a Center and the only center who looks worth something at this time would be Seraphin but everything can look better or worse in hindsight.


not saying they are crippling moves. Saying that they miss on talent too.

Digging into a Lil Further, Oklahoma City acquired Morris Peterson and the draft rights to 11th pick Cole Aldrich from New Orleans in exchange for the draft rights to 21st pick Craig Brackins and 26th pick Quincy Pondexter.

so its hard to say that they really missed on talent when he was supposed to be a player very similiar to Chris Kaman. he lacks athletic abilities but they also dont play him much possibley cuz of having Collison.
Aldrich played 4 games in which he got 14.5 minutes or more but never got more than 21.3 minutes last year. he played 6 games with more than 10 mins of playing time.
Aldrich had 2 games in that range but played 7 games total over 10 mins.

seems to me he is improving a bit as his per increased alot between the 2 years so maybe he gets more playing time. teams always reach for centers on draft day because they are such a rare commidity to get a good one in fa. to say hes a bust isnt exactly fair to him when he doesnt get much Playing time cuz his team likes to play smaller than with the limited athleticism of aldrich.
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Post#12 » by OrlandO » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:25 pm

I like Liggins, but he's not needed here during a rebuild. He fits perfectly on a contending team that's already stacked in OKC due to his defense.
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Post#13 » by magicman123 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:00 pm

OKC with a new fab 5 (durant-westbrook-harden-liggins-orton)....not 1...not 2...not 3.....
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Post#14 » by Nemesis21 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:12 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:We're going to regret letting Liggins leave.
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Post#15 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:58 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:We're going to regret letting Liggins leave.


I just know Liggins is going to end up better than CLee and JJ. I swear that Henny is a complete idiot. He brings in Harrington (untradeable contract), Ayon and a bunch of other players that wouldn't even make half the teams in the league while letting true young talent with great potential just walk for nothing.
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Post#16 » by in-limbo » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:36 pm

Quite a bit of Liggins love around here...dude can defend but wow.
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Post#17 » by Def Swami » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:47 am

DeAndre Liggins = Michael Jordan 2.0
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Post#18 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:55 am

Liggins will prove Henny wrong!
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Post#19 » by magicman123 » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:11 am

Liggins will prove MoFo wrong
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Re: The Liggins era is over 

Post#20 » by arsenal6106 » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:13 am

So lets start the debate...Should we retire his jersey?
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