FFL - 2012-13 - Voting on Rule Change - draft order posted

[theman]

When is 3Si late?

Guess it will be a while. Only 10.5+ hours passed insfo's pick.

[3Si]

When is 3Si late?

Guess it will be a while. Only 10.5+ hours passed insfo's pick.

NEVER

[writersblock]

did you give each player a projection and then calculated all the teams or do you just look at the names and then say "this team is strong in assists"

also which are the next 3 teams?

...I use player projections.

Next 3:
Sabonis
Gokce
TK

[insfo]

did you give each player a projection and then calculated all the teams or do you just look at the names and then say "this team is strong in assists"

also which are the next 3 teams?

...I use player projections.

Next 3:
Sabonis
Gokce
TK

Out of curiosity, you had me scheduled in the first batch of reviews (when you were thinking of doing 4 at a time) .. and now I don't see my team in the 3rd (or is it 4th?) batch too! What gives? I guess my draft was so mind blowing that you need time to digest it

[writersblock]

Out of curiosity, you had me scheduled in the first batch of reviews (when you were thinking of doing 4 at a time) .. and now I don't see my team in the 3rd (or is it 4th?) batch too! What gives? I guess my draft was so mind blowing that you need time to digest it

Wait, I didn't do yours in the first batch? Shoot. My computer shut off on me last night when I was doing the write-ups and I must have lost yours. I'll re-do it and push it up to this batch.

[3Si]

did you give each player a projection and then calculated all the teams or do you just look at the names and then say "this team is strong in assists"

also which are the next 3 teams?

...I use player projections.

Next 3:
Sabonis
Gokce
TK

WTF when is mine?!?

[Woody Allen]

Where do you get the projections from?

[writersblock]

Where do you get the projections from?

I'm taking last year's numbers and making revisions where I think appropriate.

Again, nothing about this is scientific, it's just one guy's analysis, and as I mentioned, one guy's attempt to procrastinate doing his real work. Anyone may argue with me about my conclusions, and I'll probably say, you could be right...

[writersblock]

did you give each player a projection and then calculated all the teams or do you just look at the names and then say "this team is strong in assists"

also which are the next 3 teams?

...I use player projections.

Next 3:
Sabonis
Gokce
TK

WTF when is mine?!?

[writersblock]

meanwhile, back in the awesome throne room...

TheMan just took Andre Drummond.

[jazzfan1971]

He shouldn't feel too bad. I was set to take him at 210. Only 90 spots too late...

[theman]

Well, I looked at my roster an realized I needed a center. I considered about eight of them and realized they all suck. Although, at one point I had convinced myself that Hansbrough and Blair were the way to go. But know they all were pretty bad I went with the one that has not proven himself but only assumed to be worthless. Although he could prove to be worse than useless. He could be detrimental. But he could blow up* and be good.

And it doesn't mean anything but Tobias Harris looked good in summer league and also looked good at the end of last season. Hopefully, he gets some PT.

*When did blow up become a good thing?

[writersblock]

Well, I looked at my roster an realized I needed a center. I considered about eight of them and realized they all suck. Although, at one point I had convinced myself that Hansbrough and Blair were the way to go. But know they all were pretty bad I went with the one that has not proven himself but only assumed to be worthless. Although he could prove to be worse than useless. He could be detrimental. But he could blow up* and be good.

And it doesn't mean anything but Tobias Harris looked good in summer league and also looked good at the end of last season. Hopefully, he gets some PT.

*When did blow up become a good thing?

I actually like Harris, I was super impressed with his Summer league. And then I saw what kind of uphill climb he's going to have to get minutes in Milwaukee and I said, maybe not.

[jazzfan1971]

Hrumph. I was going to take Drummond at 210 then I did a search and found he was drafted. I guess I got confused with DeAndre Jordan or something. D'oh!

Harkless, you better come through for me.

[jazzfan1971]

So, is everyone like me? Once you get down to this point of the draft I'm prone to taking players with Jazz connections.

You all do that? Take guys with connections to your favorite team when the pickins get thin?

[theman]

Well, I looked at my roster an realized I needed a center. I considered about eight of them and realized they all suck. Although, at one point I had convinced myself that Hansbrough and Blair were the way to go. But know they all were pretty bad I went with the one that has not proven himself but only assumed to be worthless. Although he could prove to be worse than useless. He could be detrimental. But he could blow up* and be good.

And it doesn't mean anything but Tobias Harris looked good in summer league and also looked good at the end of last season. Hopefully, he gets some PT.

*When did blow up become a good thing?

I actually like Harris, I was super impressed with his Summer league. And then I saw what kind of uphill climb he's going to have to get minutes in Milwaukee and I said, maybe not.

As you said summer league means nothing.

I think he will get some playing time. Dunnleavy isn't the most durable player and it's not like they are a contender. They let Harris start the last two games of last season and he averaged 15 points 11 rebounds.

[bww78]

So, is everyone like me? Once you get down to this point of the draft I'm prone to taking players with Jazz connections.

You all do that? Take guys with connections to your favorite team when the pickins get thin?

No, I tend to steer clear of Lakers, because I'm a little afraid of my bias.

On a side note, I also tend to steer clear of Jazz players, because I'm a little afraid of their putridness.

[theman]

So, is everyone like me? Once you get down to this point of the draft I'm prone to taking players with Jazz connections.

You all do that? Take guys with connections to your favorite team when the pickins get thin?

Not necessarily favorite team, but more than likely some type of connection. I picked up Harris on my FFDL team at the end of last season. Liked what he did, saw he did well in summer league, no one else looked good so I went with him. At this point just about all the remaining players averaged 5 pts 4 rbs or 2 assists last season. I pretty much knew at 201 I'd be taking Harris at 240. I figured he'd still be available and be about the same as everyone else.

I had notice that Carter and Prince were still available and figured as starters they'd be worth a chance, but both are quite old and in decline so Harris could be just as valuable. But when Carter and Prince were taken it became even easier.

[writersblock]

Next four team previews are up:

SAbonis
overview

Sabonis’s team might be renamed “A Tale of Two Cities”. On the one hand, he’s a big man team, but on the other, he’s also a guard team. Though he started the draft going after a few guys who are strong in %s, boards, and scoring, he also added some strong assist-getters (sorry, I have a hard time using the words “strong point guard” for Jameer Nelson). Interestingly enough, assists may actually be one of his strongest categories, as he has 2 guys who will get at least 6 assists a game. His points are even stronger, and he may rank in the top 5 of the league in that regard. Oddly enough, though, where his FT% will naturally be low for a big man team, his blocks are pretty bad, and his rebounds are barely competitive. His FG% should be strong though. On the guard side, his TOs will be high, but his steals may not be competitive enough. In short, this team is a team that could beat other big man teams with his guard strength and beat other guard teams with his big man strength. Of course, it could go the other way around too. (lose to other big man teams because he’s not big-man focused enough, you get the picture)
X Factor: Roy: I may be in the minority, but I believe in Roy, and grabbing a guy who could be top 50 at 134 may be a steal. Then again, his knee may spontaneously combust on the court and it still wouldn’t be too big of a loss of a pick. But the bottom-line is, if Roy works out, he’s the best complement to a big-man stat team you have in a guard (maybe 2nd to only Wade).
Draft Gems: Jerebko. Yeah, I’m going to give it to the Swede. He could be the glue guy that fills in the gaps for his big man and guard stats, and he likely will outdo being picked 227th.
Outlook: Playoff team

Curtis
overview
Gokce’s team isn’t really a team, it’s more like a high-end store for big men. No, I’m not referring to Big and Tall (though that’s what he could probably name his team). Rather than drafting a team, I think Gokce was just grabbing all the big men he could, in hopes of trading them wen the market is high for other star talent. So you could call Gokce a Big Man Dealer if you wanted to. Of course, I’m kidding, but seriously, he has the strongest big man team I’ve analyzed yet. And what makes his team even more dangerous, he’s also really strong in assists and steals. He’s going to kill everyone in rebounds, blocks and FG%, and may also win out in assists and steals most weeks. Obviously his 3s and FT% are out the window, but besides those two, he’s solid. His only weakness? Howard. That is, Howard is out for the first little while, so if you want to beat him, pray for a VERY early season match-up.
X Factor: Howard. Obviously, it’s no stretch of the imagination that his hopes rely on Howard’s health this year.
Draft Gem: TBD. At this point, I don’t really see one that stands out. Who he gets with his next few picks could determine whether he has one.
Outlook: Contender

TK
Overview
If Curtis is the luxury big man store, TK is big man outlet. I like the Super Gasol Brothers manning the middle for him. He did grab a few Cs that may fizzle this year, including Tyrus, Splitter, and Brand, though I think Brand could be in for some good minutes when Chris Kaman goes down. TK’s boards and blocks are expectantly very solid, and his FT% isn’t as bad as Curtis’s. I worry a little bit about his assists, only because Parker is somewhat fragile and Jack and Udrih probably won’t get the opportunities they have in the past. Jamison’s numbers may take a bit of a dive as well, and who knows what to expect from Tyreke this year. Frankly, the sure thing here is TK will be more than competitive every week in boards, blocks, and %s, which is enough to take 4 games nearly every week. On occasion, he could win assists, which would push him to 5-4. Because so many people went “big man” on this draft, I am a little worried that TK might not win the weeks he should. Still, he has much more competitive team than he has in the past.
X Factor: Jamison. He’s coming off the bench for a contender for the first time ever, or at least since I can remember. Still, he could play the Odom 6th man role and could see his efficiency improve across the board. Plus, he could be starting PF if LA decides to slide Pau to C while DH is out. Could be great for him, but then again, he could be irrelevant too.
Draft Gem: I don’t really see one. His picks in these later rounds (where I tend to take the nominees for draft gem selection) haven’t really stuck out to me as outplaying their spot. I guess Udrih could be that gem, but I’m not ready to say he’ll play that much better than the low 200s.
Outlook: Consolation

Insfo
Overview
Looky, looky. Another team with strong big man stats. Seeing a pattern? Seriously, did anyone not target big man stats? Ok, so Insfo built a team that’s strong in boards and blocks, low in FT% and competitive in FG%. He also have 5 centers on that roster. Maybe he can go into business with Gokce and TK and open a whole chain of Big Men Stores. Seriously though, I actually quite like Insfo’s team, because he also has some advantages in assists and steals, and most importantly, he picked up guys who I think will outplay their position. This could be the year Holiday becomes the elite guy everyone is expecting. Kaman is going to do better than he has the last few years…until he gets injured. Favors could be a nice surprise when Paul Milsapp gets traded. And Jan Vesely could be a real sleeper this year. And to top it all off, he has my son Josh Smith. Of course, he’s only 3 right now, but my kid can ball!
Insfo’s 3s are horrendous and his points leave something to be desired, but he could pull out 5-4 and 6-3 weeks on a regular basis.
X factor: Holiday. We know Insfo’s team is a solid big man team, but what’s going to bring it all together for him is how much Jrue improves this year with Bynum to feed. He could see more assists and a better FG%, and I can imagine that without Iggy, he’ll be scoring more too (yes, I do know that scoring more and getting more assists and a better FG% is contradictory. But this is called fantasy basketball, isn’t it?)
Draft Gem: Vesely. He’s going to outplay his early 200 spot pick-up, and could be the 6th man that does it all for the Wizards. Plus, how can you argue against a guy with the nickname “Dunking Ninja”? I mean, who makes these names up anyway?
Outlook: Playoff-bound

[theman]

Looky, looky. Another team with strong big man stats.

Maybe this is why every time I picked there weren't any worthy big men.