The Amazingly Suck Theodore Leonsis Thread

Nivek · Post #261 » by **Nivek** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:42 pm

Henderson rated barely above replacement level in my system. Biyombo was about the same, but even closer to the replacement cutoff.

I think they'll be better, but I think you're projecting 10 wins more than they deserve. My guess is they'll be somewhere in the range of 15-25 wins next season. My wild-ass guess is they'll win 17.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #262 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:46 pm

Nivek wrote:Henderson rated barely above replacement level in my system. Biyombo was about the same, but even closer to the replacement cutoff.

I think they'll be better, but I think you're projecting 10 wins more than they deserve. My guess is they'll be somewhere in the range of 15-25 wins next season. My wild-ass guess is they'll win 17.

Put me down for 29. I'd say 32 but would look really bad if they win 17 or less.

I can't see them winning less than 25 games next season.

verbal8 · Post #263 » by **verbal8** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:48 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:nate and Nivek are probably the two most knowledgeable guys that post here.

nate, rookies can make an impact. Kawhi Leonard and Kenneth Faried started on playoff teams. Kyrie Irving played like a veteran. Steph Curry made an impact as a rookie. (He had a 42 point game and three other games of 30+ points with 10+ assists). DeJuan Blair had a fine rookie season. (He had a 28 point 21 rebound game and a 27 point 23 rebound game as a rookie.) Micheal Kidd Gilchrist will make a tremendous impact as a rookie.

Faried and Leonard both were low usage players who performed very well in limited roles. That kind of contribution from will not help the Bobcats make a dramatic improvement next year. While Blair has been productive(and had some great games) his usage rate has been average.

Stephen Curry was good for a rookie, but the Warriors won 3 fewer games. Also Curry was a polished player who had 3 years of college.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
I think they'll win 25-35 games, possibly a few more.

29 games would usually be 12th or 13th in East. I could see Orlando being a total disaster and being worse.

I think the Wizards and Bucks will be semi-decent even if not play-off teams. However even the teams that don't look that good like the Pistons and Cavs seem like they should be better than the Bobcats next season. I don't think a bad season means the Bobcats are doomed long-term. The Thunder were terrible Durant's first two season.

Jay81 · Post #264 » by **Jay81** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:46 pm

Im back! Ready to lose and tank for another lottery pick. I dont think we will be very good this year but hopefully that will lead to the firing of Earnest Grunfield

DMVleGeND · Post #265 » by **DMVleGeND** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:09 pm

Jay81 wrote:Im back! Ready to lose and tank for another lottery pick. I dont think we will be very good this year but hopefully that will lead to the firing of Earnest Grunfield

Ditto.

verbal8 · Post #266 » by **verbal8** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:54 pm

DMVleGeND wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Im back! Ready to lose and tank for another lottery pick. I dont think we will be very good this year but hopefully that will lead to the firing of Earnest Grunfield

Ditto.

Oh no not Son of Ji

Are you going to provide weather reports also?

hands11 · Post #267 » by **hands11** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:31 am

montestewart wrote:developing their young players within a good mix of veterans and being in a position to get another top pick would be a good season for the Bobcats

And its likely their plan. They likely want another top pick this year like the Wizards wanted another one last year.

The power of a planned tank is strong.

closg00 · Post #268 » by **closg00** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:05 pm

The Knicks hired Hakeem now they have locked-up Dave Hopla the shooting-coach specialist. In interviews this summer, Ted said we would be hiring a shooting coach.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/fu ... story.html

Ted was asked again about a shooting coach in a follow-up interview (Mike Prada) and he said this

We have hired one assistant coach -- Don Newman, previously with San Antonio -- and without getting too specific, I expect us to add another coach in the not-too-distant future.

The Knicks are taking-care of business, when will the Wizards?

rl25g · Post #269 » by **rl25g** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:19 pm

closg00 wrote:Ted was asked again about a shooting coach in a follow-up interview (Mike Prada) and he said this

We have hired one assistant coach -- Don Newman, previously with San Antonio -- and without getting too specific, I expect us to add another coach in the not-too-distant future.

Jerry Sichting
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8253345/washington-wizards-add-jerry-sichting-assistant-head-coach-randy-wittman

I am not sure if this is who Ted was referring to, but the above quote doesn't specify from Ted a shooting coach, just another assistant. Bummer that Hopla is with the Knicks. We could have reallllly used him.

closg00 · Post #270 » by **closg00** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:01 pm

Thanks for the Sichting link, he is someone who used to work with coach Witt so Witt is hooking him up apparently.
Like you said, we reeeally needed Hopla.

hands11 · Post #271 » by **hands11** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:59 pm

Hopla has developed a great reputation. Thats for sure.

So who else is out there can help players with their shooting ? He can't possible be the only person.

Bickerstaff · Post #272 » by **Bickerstaff** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:29 pm

rl25g wrote:
closg00 wrote:Ted was asked again about a shooting coach in a follow-up interview (Mike Prada) and he said this

We have hired one assistant coach -- Don Newman, previously with San Antonio -- and without getting too specific, I expect us to add another coach in the not-too-distant future.

Jerry Sichting
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8253345/washington-wizards-add-jerry-sichting-assistant-head-coach-randy-wittman

I am not sure if this is who Ted was referring to, but the above quote doesn't specify from Ted a shooting coach, just another assistant. Bummer that Hopla is with the Knicks. We could have reallllly used him.

I'd be all for bringing him back, I guess, but what did he really accomplish with the Wizards? Brendan Haywood's ft% spiked, but otherwise? Also, the fact that he's going to the Knicks suggests to me that he's not seen so much as a developmental coach than one who can help keep vets on track. Anyway, I agree the Wizards could use all the help they can get, but I'm not convinced Hopla is reallllly useful to any team until he proves otherwise.

closg00 · Post #273 » by **closg00** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:17 pm

We will find out soon enough Bickerstaff, John Wall "paid for it himself" when he hired Hopla to help him with his shooting this summer.

Bickerstaff · Post #274 » by **Bickerstaff** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:50 pm

closg00 wrote:We will find out soon enough Bickerstaff, John Wall "paid for it himself" when he hired Hopla to help him with his shooting this summer.

Oh, I don't doubt he's earned his reputation and I would like to hope the Wiz at least considered the idea. But that doesn't mean he's someone a team needs to employ full time. I'm not against it, just think people are maybe a little unrealistic.

closg00 · Post #275 » by **closg00** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:45 pm

Bickerstaff wrote:
closg00 wrote:We will find out soon enough Bickerstaff, John Wall "paid for it himself" when he hired Hopla to help him with his shooting this summer.

Oh, I don't doubt he's earned his reputation and I would like to hope the Wiz at least considered the idea. But that doesn't mean he's someone a team needs to employ full time.I'm not against it, just think people are maybe a little unrealistic.

The Knicks are employing Hopla full-time and Ted indicated that the Wizards would be hiring someone like Hopla.

hands11 · Post #276 » by **hands11** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:06 pm

I would expect someone on the staff or someone who is contracted to be breaking down film and cutting it together to show players both their best form and when it breaks down.

That film should then be used to monitor and work with players in practice to fix that form.

I'm not a shooting coach but I would imagine the first thing to improving your shooting would be to not practice poor form. I would almost rather that player not practice shooting at all.

It is really important to get to a player early if they don't have good form.

But come on. Any of us can purchase videos to watch. Players can take this upon themselves. Also, the team should have this kind of video for a player to watch. Hell, if I was coach I would hold team meetings and watch this kind of thing as a group just as a reminder of what good form looks like. Players and coaches alike.

I have no idea what the team does to address this stuff. Anyone have any insights ?

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #277 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sat Oct 6, 2012 3:11 am

Ted Leonsis spoke out about all things Wizards.

Some of you who haven't visited Truth About It might want to know what Mr Leonsis said along with commentary from Kyle Weidie TAI:

Washington Wizards majority owner Ted Leonsis spoke with the media for over 30 minutes on Thursday evening from team’s training camp on the campus of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia. TAI was there.

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2012/10/ted ... ntent=ESPN

Kyle, Rashad and others do a wonderful job. I enjoy reading what they have to say at TAI!

hands11 · Post #278 » by **hands11** » Sat Oct 6, 2012 1:48 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... kUNY7cFh2Y

The plan. If you understand the plan, you understand the moves. This is what I have been defending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6Xd70TD7rI

I have long advocated this view. Even before Ted was here.

Post #279 » by **montestewart** » Sat Oct 6, 2012 2:45 pm

It's really not rockey sighence. This is I've ben said since wayyyy before evidence machine were invent, back in Texas.

If you understand the plan, you understand the moves, and you even understand the barely intelligible, repeatedly altered, and blandly uttered rationalizations. Then you can understand the so-called plan as it was initially phrased, as it has been subsequently modified, or as it is currently articulated, and the disconnect between any of these spastic variations of the plan and the actual moves that were made, supposedly in adherence to some sort of plan. Then you can understand why all these versions of a "plan" are really just a bad plan or no plan at all, but that no one's even really following a plan.

Leonsis is a huckster, and not a very sophisticated one, but there's a sucker born every minute, and the best con has you believing it was your idea all along.

Screw the politicians and the generals and the messes they get us into with their grand and horrible schemes. I support the troops. Play ball.

Dat2U · Post #280 » by **Dat2U** » Sat Oct 6, 2012 3:34 pm

hands11 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bkUNY7cFh2Y

The plan. If you understand the plan, you understand the moves. This is what I have been defending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6Xd70TD7rI

I have long advocated this view. Even before Ted was here.

Oh lord, get over yourself. Plan my ass.

I no longer pay attention to a word that comes out of Ted's mouth. Because it means nothing.

I look at the actions taken by the Wizards front office and the results of those actions. That tells me everything I need to know. IMO, we've moved on to plan B (Ernie's way - quick fix to get competitive) from plan A (Ted's way - patient rebuilding with high draft picks) because Ted's way had become too painful to withstand last season, partly because it was being poorly executed by Ernie.

Acquiring Okafor, Nene and Ariza wasn't a part of this glorious "plan" 12 months ago, it was an panicked over-reaction to the abject disaster last season had become and the general lack of player of development across the roster (most importantly Wall).

So how great will the "plan" be if the Wizards win less than 30 games this year, with a middlin lottery pick and limited cap flexibility?