Arnold discusses Wilt's strength...

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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#41 » by druggas » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:15 pm

Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

I'm not dissing your post, but it's one of the dumbest I've ever read.
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Post#42 » by Stolen Team Fan » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:56 pm

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Frank Mulely wrote:With Arnold + Wilt around I feel bad for any women that were on the set of Conan the Destroyer :lol:


My brother-in-law claims Grace Jones went panty-less in a scene in Conan the Destroyer, a la Sharon Stone in Basic Instincts.

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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#43 » by Buckeyevstworld » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:59 pm

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USA wrote:Sum up is the Wilt did tricep extensions at a heavier weight than big body builder guys. Wilt could pick up Arnold with one arm.

Wilt had sex with 20,000 women. Think about how many push-ups that is... I bet Wilt had strong arms, among other things. :uhoh:


Gonorrhea?


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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#44 » by LakerLegend » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:08 am

druggas wrote:
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Wilt was a freak of nature. Open your mind. Why would people make things up about Wilt, but not about any other player? Because Wilt was a freak of nature.


Research any other celebrity or famous figure from Wilt's time (60's and before) and you will find similarly absurd stories.

Name me another basketballer?


You mean like 6 foot guys who were claimed to be able to grab pennies off the top of backboards in dress shoes?
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#45 » by Johnlac1 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 am

Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

White doods? You mean white "doods" like Russell, Reed, Thurmond, and Bellamy? Wilt almost always outrebounded KAJ head to head when KAJ was in his prime and Wilt in his mid thirties.
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#46 » by Tee212 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 am

Johnlac1 wrote:
Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

White doods? You mean white "doods" like Russell, Reed, Thurmond, and Bellamy? Wilt almost always outrebounded KAJ head to head when KAJ was in his prime and Wilt in his mid thirties.



did he play vs the black doods all 82 games? let shaq play vs mark madson/white mamba/chris mihm all season and see what happens. Those guys you listed above are quite the defensive monster stoppers right? kaj? hes like what 220lbs??? come on now!
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#47 » by Tee212 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:54 am

druggas wrote:
Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

I'm not dissing your post, but it's one of the dumbest I've ever read.



Pretend youre a "freak athlete" playing against junior high kids and see how dominant you are. How else do you explain todays "freak athletes" not able to score 100+ which also includes a 3pt line.
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Post#48 » by qm22 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 am

The funny thing to me about people who say Wilt's strength (like bench press) is just a myth, as well as with his other accolades, just because it is too impressive to be believed, is that Wilt's mythical strength has been corroborated at multiple points in his life by his university, Arnold Schwarzenegger, people who went to the gym with him after his retirement, his NBA peers, reporters, and so on...

It's fine to be skeptical, but at some point you are simply subjectively deciding what not to believe because of your prejudices. These type of opinions are simply worthless. Saying it is impossible for someone to be that strong and ignoring 10+ documented references is a valueless contribution. It is necessary to ignore such opinions, because if that were valid reasoning we would have to dismiss everything we could not see with our own eyes, i.e., any particularly unique historical event. That is the foundation of ignorance.
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Post#49 » by qm22 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:07 am

Lakerfan17 wrote:
You mean like 6 foot guys who were claimed to be able to grab pennies off the top of backboards in dress shoes?


Uh... this is amusing. I'd love to see these claims substantiated. Wilt had numerous sources talking about his physical abilities, yet I doubt you can find one credible source to back up this claim.
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#50 » by RalphWiggum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:21 am

Tee212 wrote:
Johnlac1 wrote:
Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

White doods? You mean white "doods" like Russell, Reed, Thurmond, and Bellamy? Wilt almost always outrebounded KAJ head to head when KAJ was in his prime and Wilt in his mid thirties.



did he play vs the black doods all 82 games? let shaq play vs mark madson/white mamba/chris mihm all season and see what happens. Those guys you listed above are quite the defensive monster stoppers right? kaj? hes like what 220lbs??? come on now!

You need to refill your brain medicine prescription buddy!
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#51 » by Tave » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:24 am

Tee212 wrote:
druggas wrote:
Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

I'm not dissing your post, but it's one of the dumbest I've ever read.



Pretend youre a "freak athlete" playing against junior high kids and see how dominant you are. How else do you explain todays "freak athletes" not able to score 100+ which also includes a 3pt line.


1) A couple guys have come close, including DRob, who wasn't shooting any 3s either.

2) It's a combination of several factors, including the level of play, overall pace of the league, defensive philosophies, etc...

3) Wilt was quite possibly the greatest athlete and physical specimen of all time, in any sport. What was the quote? (i'm sure this isn't exact) "Wilt, are you the greatest athlete in basketball?" "I'm the greatest athlete in the world who just happens to play basketball.
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#52 » by D.Brasco » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:27 am

Tee212 wrote:
Johnlac1 wrote:
Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

White doods? You mean white "doods" like Russell, Reed, Thurmond, and Bellamy? Wilt almost always outrebounded KAJ head to head when KAJ was in his prime and Wilt in his mid thirties.



did he play vs the black doods all 82 games? let shaq play vs mark madson/white mamba/chris mihm all season and see what happens. Those guys you listed above are quite the defensive monster stoppers right? kaj? hes like what 220lbs??? come on now!



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Post#53 » by Tee212 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:31 am

perfect timing for the internets grammar police dood lol. So easily trolled life is great.
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Post#54 » by VINO 24 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:44 am

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Wilt a walking legend.
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Post#55 » by Gnarc90 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:58 am

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Wilt a walking legend.


:lol: They make Arnold look like a normal sized guy
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Post#56 » by tsherkin » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:07 am

Tee212 wrote:perfect timing for the internets grammar police dood lol. So easily trolled life is great.


You are neither a wise, nor a well-informed poster. Do some research and try again, and don't actively try to badger other posters.
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Post#58 » by RalphWiggum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:17 am

Tee212 wrote:im not really dissing him, im just basically saying the white guys he played against had no fighting chance. I watched the special on nbatv, everything he did was like in slow motion and not even close to prime shaq. Hes overrated to me. Its like watching the white doods back then dribbling the ball paddle style and its not every impressive lol.

15 months ago I watched a past his prime white German guy who rarely handles the ball absolutely dominate a 26 year old black man who was at the top of his game and controlled the ball most of the game and Whitey dominated him when the biggest prize in the game was on the line!

A year later against a much more talented black player and arguably better overall team (nobody would argue Dirk over Durant at this point in their careers) and Lebron rolls to a relatively easy title.

What was your point again DOOOOOOOOD?
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Post#59 » by SlobbaN » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:32 am

The older the player the more overrated he is. People will always say, that Wilt>>>Shaq,Dream, Whoever and that Cousy would probably dominate the hell out of today's NBA )) It's like this in every sport. I bet in 50 years time people will be saying that Dwight could lift 800 and dunk from 3 point line ))
And yeah, there's no way he could bench press 500, people who claim he could don't know a single thing about body building and human body.
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Re: Arnold discusses Wilt's strength... 

Post#60 » by RalphWiggum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:47 am

SlobbaN wrote:The older the player the more overrated he is. People will always say, that Wilt>>>Shaq,Dream, Whoever and that Cousy would probably dominate the hell out of today's NBA )) It's like this in every sport. I bet in 50 years time people will be saying that Dwight could lift 800 and dunk from 3 point line ))
And yeah, there's no way he could bench press 500, people who claim he could don't know a single thing about body building and human body.

Nobody will say Dwight could bench 500 pounds and dunk from the 3pt line because nobody has ever seen him do either of those things! When it comes to Wilt these are not Bible stories of 2000 years ago, people that are still alive and not insane are saying he did these things, they saw him do it. I 100% guarantee nobody 40 years from now is going to say Dwight was dunking from the 3pt line but the cameras were never rolling when he did it.

Remarkable freak athletes did exist on our planet in the 60's and 70's, we are not in a genetically exclusive period of time in which we have exclusivity to amazing transcending athletes. Bob Beamon held the long jump record by a wide margin for over 20 years. Alexander Karelin is still widely regarded as the hands down best wrestler that's ever lived. Nobody thinks Sidney Crosby is as good a hockey player as Gretzky, Lemieux or Orr even though he clearly has access to better nutrition and training methods.

We are not talking about men from ancient Greece being on par with the athletes we see today, we are talking about less than a half century ago which is totally reasonable to believe especially when corroborated by men that are still living.

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