Wade's work ethic

[seminoles1993]

I saw this on the other heat board, and it was talking about how ,in the off season, wade never seems to add anything drastic in his game to be a better player, has come into to the season with bad conditioning before and this year he is apparently not even close to becoming 100%. WTF? I get that he has his own personal life and wrote a book and stuff but Doesn't Lebron have a personal life? Doesn't Kobe? Doesn't Durant? Didn't Jordan have a personal life? answer is Yes, they did and everybody does, but they still come into the season being a better player. I hate how he said hed hire a shooting coach but I haven't heard anything bout that lately. It pains me to say this cuz hes my fav player but he needs to really put in extra work especially now that hes getting older.

[DWadeno3]

First of all let me start by saying the quality of your post couldn't be much lower. Just because you don't hear anything about a player not working out doesn't mean he isn't. Aside of that, there's been enough evidence of Wade being in the gym, as he himself has even posted pictures of it. If you were a Heat fan, you'd probably know that. If you were a Heat fan, you'd probably also know that he had knee surgery and is still recovering from it. Nobody ever stated he won't be a 100% during the entire season, he just isn't a 100% right now because, well, he had knee surgery, just in case you forgot.
Aside of all that, to claim he hasn't added much to his game is flat out ignorant. A much improved jump shot ever since he's come into the league, a post-game that's more efficient than most 7-footers' post-game, a huge arsenal of deceptive moves which he established over the years and that has helped him to get to the basket even when his legs weren't under him. One could go on, but I guess this should be enough for now. Again, a Heat fan would know that from just catching the games.
Let's continue with your assumption that his work ethic is poor. After the 07/08 season, I remember many so called experts claiming his career was done, that he was the next Penny Hardaway and that he would never be the same. After the freak injuries he suffered and the diagnosis many doctors gave him, one couldn't completely deny it. In 08/09, he had his best individual season after killing himself all summer long after undergoing painful procedures to fix his knee problems. But I guess that doesn't speak for a good work ethic.

I could write a lot more to tear your pathetic post apart, but for a 5-post-fake-Heat-fan-troll, I'll leave it at that and hope the mods will just lock this excuse of a thread. You do not only lack the information to start a discussion about Wade's work ethic, but apparently also the reading comprehension skills, since you spin some words you read on this board around to support your agenda.

Long story stort: Take your garbage elsewhere and get the f*** off the Heat board claiming you support our players and our franchise.

[420]

wade never seems to add anything drastic in his game to be a better player, has come into to the season with bad conditioning before and this year he is apparently not even close to becoming 100%.

Wade is arguably one of the most complete players in the league along with LBJ. You don't reach that level unless you're busting your tail off.

I hate how he said hed hire a shooting coach but I haven't heard anything bout that lately. It pains me to say this cuz hes my fav player but he needs to really put in extra work especially now that hes getting older.

Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it's not happening. In fact, what you're really asking for is for someone to follow him around during his workouts and write all about it to bring you some closure.

There's plenty of things going on in the world right now that isn't reported. Doesn't mean it's not happening lol.

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And1.

[TrueRain]

It's laughable to me that people think you can become a great player in this league without "work ethic". Wade hasn't gotten to where he is just off of luck. If that's what you think, you obviously haven't watched him since he came into the league. He's come a very long way.

[seminoles1993]

First of all let me start by saying the quality of your post couldn't be much lower. Just because you don't hear anything about a player not working out doesn't mean he isn't. Aside of that, there's been enough evidence of Wade being in the gym, as he himself has even posted pictures of it. If you were a Heat fan, you'd probably know that. If you were a Heat fan, you'd probably also know that he had knee surgery and is still recovering from it. Nobody ever stated he won't be a 100% during the entire season, he just isn't a 100% right now because, well, he had knee surgery, just in case you forgot.
Aside of all that, to claim he hasn't added much to his game is flat out ignorant. A much improved jump shot ever since he's come into the league, a post-game that's more efficient than most 7-footers' post-game, a huge arsenal of deceptive moves which he established over the years and that has helped him to get to the basket even when his legs weren't under him. One could go on, but I guess this should be enough for now. Again, a Heat fan would know that from just catching the games.
Let's continue with your assumption that his work ethic is poor. After the 07/08 season, I remember many so called experts claiming his career was done, that he was the next Penny Hardaway and that he would never be the same. After the freak injuries he suffered and the diagnosis many doctors gave him, one couldn't completely deny it. In 08/09, he had his best individual season after killing himself all summer long after undergoing painful procedures to fix his knee problems. But I guess that doesn't speak for a good work ethic.

I could write a lot more to tear your pathetic post apart, but for a 5-post-fake-Heat-fan-troll, I'll leave it at that and hope the mods will just lock this excuse of a thread. You do not only lack the information to start a discussion about Wade's work ethic, but apparently also the reading comprehension skills, since you spin some words you read on this board around to support your agenda.

Long story stort: Take your garbage elsewhere and get the f*** off the Heat board claiming you support our players and our franchise.

I love the fact that youre passionate about wade and clearly understand why you are mad but this is my opinion . I agree with the fact that he added a jump shot after coming into the NBA and had an extremely deadly Jumper. Notice how I am saying "had" "was"? I don't need to give you the stats about him being a terrible jumpshooter this past year, and "youd know this if you were a heat fan" and he seems to be regressing in terms of shooting as he gets older. Again, if you're a heat fan you'd know that after the 09-10 season, his jumpshot has been regressing. I also dont like the fact that he's never had a shooting coach. Doesn't mean hes a lazy bum but I thinnk it would help him greatly if he did.And about me not being a heat fan. I find that offensive because, if just because I have 5 posts or whatever doesn't make me a heat fan then I guess out of all the 20,000 heat fans that go to the games each day, only about 100 are fans because I dont see 20,000 people here with more than 5 posts. Ill have you know Im a die hard heat fan, have been for over 6 years. Then again, since I only have 5 posts on here, I guess I'm not, right? Again, Im not suggesting wades a lazy bum or anything like, I would never because hes my favorite player but I didnt like the fact that he had a minor knee surgery, a simple cleanup procedure and still hasnt been recovered. maybe its cuz hes had difficulties that hes not letting us know but Im just saying. Ill have you know that this is a message board and we all are here to disscuss our opinions and share our thoughts. None has to agree with what everybody has to say, but you need to take a long breath and realize that this isnt anything personal and its just a message board before you disrespect someone. Anyways, I'm a heat fan just like you and I dont like the fact that were arguing with each other when we've got the entire world against us.

[jona187]

http://www.hothothoops.com/2012/9/26/34 ... pn-ranking

[Vertical Limit]

OP just so you know, in this board Wade is Superman and he can't do no wrong. Don't dare question the guy's work ethic or conditioning, he's the man of steel, he doesn't need to train like the rest do, or he's in a cave doing some top secret training that no reporter knows about.

He has been working on his hands lately though, opening books and signing them.

[420]

The only thing I'd like for Wade to improve on is his FTs. It's not even a statistical thing to me, I just think the game becomes tougher when he misses a few in a row. I'd say the same about LeBron.

With that said, I'm appreciative of what our guys have done, and have no complains.

[420]

OP just so you know, in this board Wade is Superman and he can't do no wrong. Don't dare question the guy's work ethic or conditioning, he's the man of steel, he doesn't need to train like the rest do,or he's in a cave doing some top secret training that no reporter knows about.

He has been working on his hands lately though, opening books and signing them.

This was last year during the lockout.

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Food for thought: If this where the only evidence of Wade working out, does this mean Wade has never worked out before in his life? Kind like whether a tree makes a sound if it falls and no one is around to hear it.

[ItsAJyaKnow]

How dare you talk about GOD like that! I mean D-Wade.. Whatever. You understand!

[DWadeno3]

I love the fact that youre passionate about wade and clearly understand why you are mad but this is my opinion . I agree with the fact that he added a jump shot after coming into the NBA and had an extremely deadly Jumper. Notice how I am saying "had" "was"? I don't need to give you the stats about him being a terrible jumpshooter this past year, and "youd know this if you were a heat fan" and he seems to be regressing in terms of shooting as he gets older. Again, if you're a heat fan you'd know that after the 09-10 season, his jumpshot has been regressing. I also dont like the fact that he's never had a shooting coach. Doesn't mean hes a lazy bum but I thinnk it would help him greatly if he did.And about me not being a heat fan. I find that offensive because, if just because I have 5 posts or whatever doesn't make me a heat fan then I guess out of all the 20,000 heat fans that go to the games each day, only about 100 are fans because I dont see 20,000 people here with more than 5 posts. Ill have you know Im a die hard heat fan, have been for over 6 years. Then again, since I only have 5 posts on here, I guess I'm not, right? Again, Im not suggesting wades a lazy bum or anything like, I would never because hes my favorite player but I didnt like the fact that he had a minor knee surgery, a simple cleanup procedure and still hasnt been recovered. maybe its cuz hes had difficulties that hes not letting us know but Im just saying. Ill have you know that this is a message board and we all are here to disscuss our opinions and share our thoughts. None has to agree with what everybody has to say, but you need to take a long breath and realize that this isnt anything personal and its just a message board before you disrespect someone. Anyways, I'm a heat fan just like you and I dont like the fact that were arguing with each other when we've got the entire world against us.

Way not nitpick and once again lack reading comprehension skills. I questioned your Heat fandom because you lack the information a Heat fan would have, especially one who seems to be so overly concerned about Wade's work ethic in recent years.

Regarding his jumpshooting:

Last year 62% of his attempts were jump shots and he hit them at a .416% clip.
In 08/09, his most dominant year, 66% of his shots were jumpers he had an eFG% of .442%.
In 05/06 it was an eFG% of .393% on 60% of jump shots.
In 06/07 it was an eFG% of .403% on 62% of jump shots.

It was his pull-up jumper he struggled with last year, which can partially be blamed on his injury and partially on an error in his motion of bringing the ball up out of the dribble. His jump shot out of post-ups was actually pretty decent last year.
I'm not saying he doesn't have to improve, which he does, but I guess it's your mind playing tricks on you when you think he was that that terrible last year or that much better his entire career.

My main point, however, is that just because you don't hear anything doesn't mean players aren't working out, which is also something Vertical Limit should probably think about. That's also why I'm so pissed. At this point, I don't care much for people who discredit our players, but this nonsense about "I don't read anything so he's not working out" is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure Wade, just like any other player on our team, has a plan as to how he'll prepare for the season in order to be in ideal shape and, most importantly, healthy because health issue held him back badly last year.

[Zasterror]

You know an epic Wade's breakout season is about to occur when his very own fans starts to doubt him.

[insfo]

pathetic .. sorry, had to say it.

[Chosen01]

It's almost time.

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[DefenseWins]

It's true he never considered working on his shooting with a shooting coach before UNTIL THIS YEAR. But atleast he's doing it.

He had surgery on his knee, of course he's not coming back 100% yet. By now Heat fans should actually be use to "Wade not 100%". This dude is never 100%. Ray Allen I believe as well isn't 100%. As long as they are ready for June, that's fine.

[Pimpwerx]

Wade was fighting injuries all last season. When he was healthy for the first few games, he looked great. Then he had that foot problem, which they hinted might have been plantar fasciatis, and he was never right since then. I'll give him this season before claiming he's clearly on the decline. Luckily, we have Ray now, so Spo can manage Wade's minutes easily this season. PEACE.

[ERRDAY3]

Before 2010 Wades work ethic was great he would always come out better and improved in some way every single season. He obviously slacked after that great 09 year because in 2010 he was out of shape and his jumpshot was terrible. He's worked hard the last two offseasons but not as hard as he used to his jumpshots been okay and its not like he's fat but he's not lean/cut like he used to be.

I still think Wade could of been even better than he was in 09 if he kept working hard. He still made improvements to his game like getting better at defense in 2010 becoming a more diverse offensive player(post game, off the ball, and more moves) in 2011 and improving his free throw shooting in 12. He was also still an elite athlete in 2010 and 2011 despite being heavier. If his shooting and ball handling didn't regress he would of even been better.

[ERRDAY3]

Wade does seem to be in pretty good shape so far and he's been allowed to workout for a month so far and he's still got a month before the season starts.

[nyk_buc]

Wade has great work ethic. You don't come back from the injuries he did (where his career was threatened) and regained his top 5 status w/o having great work ethic.

However, it's troublesome that Wade is still not 100% now (it's 11 weeks from surgery), and the rehab should only take 4-6 weeks. I"m sure he's been working out, but if the knee is worse than it is, not a good sign. Hopefully Miami is just being overly cautious.

[Slot Machine]

It's almost time.

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See you that one and raise you this:
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