All Lin talk here

[E86]

This explains why he sleeps in someone's couch a lot

Jesus forbids christians to drink, doesn't He? lol even He had wine (the then version of vodka) to go with breads.

Wine back in the biblical era was nothing remotely close to vodka. Wine had a lot less alcoholic content than todays wine, and todays wine still pales in comparison in alcoholic content to normal spirits.

[Woodsanity]

If Lin never emerges in that Nets game the Knicks lose, D'Antoni gets fired, Woodson takes over as head coach and the Knicks still go on to make the playoffs even without Lin. That's how bad D'Antoni sucked and how good of a job Woodson did turning it around.

I don't think Woodson would win with a starting roster of Toney Douglas, Jeffries, Bill Walker, Fields, and TC.

[xclearscreen]

Lin just posted this a few days back



He looks NOT satisfied. In fact, he looks pissed. Bass not big enough. Things can always improve and get better. That's a winning mentality. What a winner

When Jeremy Lin goes fishing he doesn't need a fishing pole, he just stairs at the water till the fish jump into his hands out of shear panic.

[adrenaLINe]

Lin just posted this a few days back



He looks NOT satisfied. In fact, he looks pissed. Bass not big enough. Things can always improve and get better. That's a winning mentality. What a winner

Asians are like that...

the other day I was finding myself getting angry at my son... for only memorizing his multiplication up to 3 times table

and then one of the mothers I talk to said he is only 5....

Lin probably had the same type of parenting...

you could see it last year when Woodsen got pissed at him...

Lin did better after he got yelled at...

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Dunning–Kruger effect


We've all seen it: the employee who's convinced she's doing a great job and gets a mediocre performance appraisal, or the student who's sure he's aced an exam and winds up with a D.

The tendency that people have to overrate their abilities fascinates Cornell University social psychologist David Dunning, PhD. "People overestimate themselves," he says, "but more than that, they really seem to believe it. I've been trying to figure out where that certainty of belief comes from."

Dunning is doing that through a series of manipulated studies, mostly with students at Cornell. He's finding that the least competent performers inflate their abilities the most; that the reason for the overinflation seems to be ignorance, not arrogance; and that chronic self-beliefs, however inaccurate, underlie both people's over and underestimations of how well they're doing.

Meanwhile, other researchers are studying the subjective nature of self-assessment from other angles. For example, Steven Heine, PhD, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia, is showing that self-inflation tends to be more of a Western than a universal phenomenon



Regardless of how pervasive the phenomenon is, it is clear from Dunning's and others' work that many Americans, at least sometimes and under some conditions, have a tendency to inflate their worth. It is interesting, therefore, to see the phenomenon's mirror opposite in another culture. In research comparing North American and East Asian self-assessments, Heine of the University of British Columbia finds that East Asians tend to underestimate their abilities, with an aim toward improving the self and getting along with others.

These differences are highlighted in a meta-analysis Heine is now completing of 70 studies that examine the degree of self-enhancement or self-criticism in China, Japan and Korea versus the United States and Canada. Sixty-nine of the 70 studies reveal significant differences between the two cultures in the degree to which individuals hold these tendencies, he finds.

In another article in the October 2001 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 81, No. 4), Heine's team looks more closely at how this occurs. First, Japanese and American participants performed a task at which they either succeeded or failed. Then they were timed as they worked on another version of the task. "The results made a symmetrical X," says Heine: Americans worked longer if they succeeded at the first task, while Japanese worked longer if they failed.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/overestimate.aspx

[21shumpshumpst]

Lin just posted this a few days back



He looks NOT satisfied. In fact, he looks pissed. Bass not big enough. Things can always improve and get better. That's a winning mentality. What a winner

Asians are like that...

the other day I was finding myself getting angry at my son... for only memorizing his multiplication up to 3 times table

and then one of the mothers I talk to said he is only 5....

Lin probably had the same type of parenting...

you could see it last year when Woodsen got pissed at him...

Lin did better after he got yelled at...

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Dunning–Kruger effect


We've all seen it: the employee who's convinced she's doing a great job and gets a mediocre performance appraisal, or the student who's sure he's aced an exam and winds up with a D.

The tendency that people have to overrate their abilities fascinates Cornell University social psychologist David Dunning, PhD. "People overestimate themselves," he says, "but more than that, they really seem to believe it. I've been trying to figure out where that certainty of belief comes from."

Dunning is doing that through a series of manipulated studies, mostly with students at Cornell. He's finding that the least competent performers inflate their abilities the most; that the reason for the overinflation seems to be ignorance, not arrogance; and that chronic self-beliefs, however inaccurate, underlie both people's over and underestimations of how well they're doing.

Meanwhile, other researchers are studying the subjective nature of self-assessment from other angles. For example, Steven Heine, PhD, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia, is showing that self-inflation tends to be more of a Western than a universal phenomenon



Regardless of how pervasive the phenomenon is, it is clear from Dunning's and others' work that many Americans, at least sometimes and under some conditions, have a tendency to inflate their worth. It is interesting, therefore, to see the phenomenon's mirror opposite in another culture. In research comparing North American and East Asian self-assessments, Heine of the University of British Columbia finds that East Asians tend to underestimate their abilities, with an aim toward improving the self and getting along with others.

These differences are highlighted in a meta-analysis Heine is now completing of 70 studies that examine the degree of self-enhancement or self-criticism in China, Japan and Korea versus the United States and Canada. Sixty-nine of the 70 studies reveal significant differences between the two cultures in the degree to which individuals hold these tendencies, he finds.

In another article in the October 2001 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 81, No. 4), Heine's team looks more closely at how this occurs. First, Japanese and American participants performed a task at which they either succeeded or failed. Then they were timed as they worked on another version of the task. "The results made a symmetrical X," says Heine: Americans worked longer if they succeeded at the first task, while Japanese worked longer if they failed.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/overestimate.aspx

With all due respect STFU and don't make this out to be about race. Or about how Asians are better than americans because of blah blah. Keep it to basketball.

[Dru]

Looks like Jeremy Lin with his short stint as #17 on the New York Knicks made it onto Simpsons new season premier episode

Just watched it, they replaced Lin with someone on the Yankees.

Who? Felton? Old man Wallace? Melo?

What? Yankees. Someone on the Yankees. Couldn't really tell who.. Probably Jeter.

[adrenaLINe]

Lin just posted this a few days back



He looks NOT satisfied. In fact, he looks pissed. Bass not big enough. Things can always improve and get better. That's a winning mentality. What a winner

Asians are like that...

the other day I was finding myself getting angry at my son... for only memorizing his multiplication up to 3 times table

and then one of the mothers I talk to said he is only 5....

Lin probably had the same type of parenting...

you could see it last year when Woodsen got pissed at him...

Lin did better after he got yelled at...

.
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Dunning–Kruger effect


We've all seen it: the employee who's convinced she's doing a great job and gets a mediocre performance appraisal, or the student who's sure he's aced an exam and winds up with a D.

The tendency that people have to overrate their abilities fascinates Cornell University social psychologist David Dunning, PhD. "People overestimate themselves," he says, "but more than that, they really seem to believe it. I've been trying to figure out where that certainty of belief comes from."

Dunning is doing that through a series of manipulated studies, mostly with students at Cornell. He's finding that the least competent performers inflate their abilities the most; that the reason for the overinflation seems to be ignorance, not arrogance; and that chronic self-beliefs, however inaccurate, underlie both people's over and underestimations of how well they're doing.

Meanwhile, other researchers are studying the subjective nature of self-assessment from other angles. For example, Steven Heine, PhD, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia, is showing that self-inflation tends to be more of a Western than a universal phenomenon



Regardless of how pervasive the phenomenon is, it is clear from Dunning's and others' work that many Americans, at least sometimes and under some conditions, have a tendency to inflate their worth. It is interesting, therefore, to see the phenomenon's mirror opposite in another culture. In research comparing North American and East Asian self-assessments, Heine of the University of British Columbia finds that East Asians tend to underestimate their abilities, with an aim toward improving the self and getting along with others.

These differences are highlighted in a meta-analysis Heine is now completing of 70 studies that examine the degree of self-enhancement or self-criticism in China, Japan and Korea versus the United States and Canada. Sixty-nine of the 70 studies reveal significant differences between the two cultures in the degree to which individuals hold these tendencies, he finds.

In another article in the October 2001 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 81, No. 4), Heine's team looks more closely at how this occurs. First, Japanese and American participants performed a task at which they either succeeded or failed. Then they were timed as they worked on another version of the task. "The results made a symmetrical X," says Heine: Americans worked longer if they succeeded at the first task, while Japanese worked longer if they failed.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/overestimate.aspx

With all due respect STFU and don't make this out to be about race. Or about how Asians are better than americans because of blah blah. Keep it to basketball.

why are you still in this thread... hater

this is about Lin...

you just expect him to drop the ball if he gets yelled at... im saying he wont

the article was to highlight how Lin probably thinks... and why all the negativity dosent get to him, and in fact makes him play harder

since you brought it up..... with all due respect, Asians are doing better than you Americans...


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“I’ve seen how relentless the Chinese are at accomplishing goals, and if they can do this in Shanghai in 2009, they can do it in 10 cities in 2019, and in 50 cities by 2029.”

The test, the Program for International Student Assessment, known as PISA, was given to 15-year-old students by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that includes the world’s major industrial powers.

The results are to be released officially on Tuesday, but advance copies were provided to the news media a day early.

“We have to see this as a wake-up call,” Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said in an interview on Monday.

“I know skeptics will want to argue with the results, but we consider them to be accurate and reliable, and we have to see them as a challenge to get better,” he added. “The United States came in 23rd or 24th in most subjects. We can quibble, or we can face the brutal truth that we’re being out-educated.”

In math, the Shanghai students performed in a class by themselves, outperforming second-place Singapore, which has been seen as an educational superstar in recent years. The average math scores of American students put them below 30 other countries.

PISA scores are on a scale, with 500 as the average. Two-thirds of students in participating countries score between 400 and 600. On the math test last year, students in Shanghai scored 600, in Singapore 562, in Germany 513, and in the United States 487.

In reading, Shanghai students scored 556, ahead of second-place Korea with 539. The United States scored 500 and came in 17th, putting it on par with students in the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, the United Kingdom and several other countries.

In science, Shanghai students scored 575. In second place was Finland, where the average score was 554. The United States scored 502 — in 23rd place — with a performance indistinguishable from Poland, Ireland, Norway, France and several other countries.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/educa ... d=all&_r=0


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[thebuzzardman]

So, Asians are doing better than Americans, but 30,40, 50 years ago, they weren't. Then 500 years ago, they were doing better than Europeans, and so was the middle east, which right now we'd probably agree isn't. And so on.

Which pretty much proves there is zero to the race thing, and even broad cultural assumptions aren't good for much, except for some habits or patterns in a short term.

[Thugger HBC]

Lin is American, all day and twice on Sunday.

FOH with that "Asians are like that" nonsense.

Lin is just a highly motivated young man who has been told "no" all his life, and has been determined to prove everyone wrong.

[juxtaposition]

I think he meant raised by Asians. His parents are still 1st generation, and the way they bring up their kids is different from how American-born parents of Asian descent raise their kids.

And I wouldn't take it necessarily as him implying that Asians are "better", it's more like to Asians, nothing they do is ever good enough. We have a complex

[GONYK]

I know plenty of lazy Asians

[adrenaLINe]

So, Asians are doing better than Americans, but 30,40, 50 years ago, they weren't. Then 500 years ago, they were doing better than Europeans, and so was the middle east, which right now we'd probably agree isn't. And so on.

Which pretty much proves there is zero to the race thing, and even broad cultural assumptions aren't good for much, except for some habits or patterns in a short term.

true all civilizations rise and fall...but as the USA "officially" borrows 41,000 dollars per second

(unofficially $158,548.00 per second)

there are no assumptions, in ensuring the USA wont see its rise again for a long long time

[Thugger HBC]

[No35]

[thebuzzardman]

So, Asians are doing better than Americans, but 30,40, 50 years ago, they weren't. Then 500 years ago, they were doing better than Europeans, and so was the middle east, which right now we'd probably agree isn't. And so on.

Which pretty much proves there is zero to the race thing, and even broad cultural assumptions aren't good for much, except for some habits or patterns in a short term.

true all civilizations rise and fall...but as the USA "officially" borrows 41,000 dollars per second

(unofficially $158,548.00 per second)

there are no assumptions, in ensuring the USA wont see its rise again for a long long time

Who knows, you don't know for damn sure. There a lot of factors that could impact the rise and fall of a number of countries, regions etc. US looked for sure in the crapper before, and recovered, who knows. No one's arguing about China's resurgence, but there are certainly factors there that could cause issues as well.

Whatever. It's a basketball forum. But if we have to assume all the good Asian sterotypes are true, then I guess we gotta believe the rice dick sterotype is true as well, mkay?

[BOOMbip]

If Lin never emerges in that Nets game the Knicks lose, D'Antoni gets fired, Woodson takes over as head coach and the Knicks still go on to make the playoffs even without Lin. That's how bad D'Antoni sucked and how good of a job Woodson did turning it around.

I don't think Woodson would win with a starting roster of Toney Douglas, Jeffries, Bill Walker, Fields, and TC.

Although he didn't lose like D'antoni did when Melo and Amar'e came back and they went 3-9 with a 6 game losing streak....actually two of them in his last 25 games coached. I contend that Woodson would have done better with the depleted line up than Mike D did with the full one.

[adrenaLINe]

Lin is American, all day and twice on Sunday.

FOH with that "Asians are like that" nonsense.

Lin is just a highly motivated young man who has been told "no" all his life, and has been determined to prove everyone wrong.

Lets face it the stereotypes/ingrained biases are out there...



The enrollment controversy*

Worries that efforts in the U.S. to limit enrollment of Asian students in top universities may migrate to Canada


* That Asian students work harder is a fact born out by hard data. They tend to be strivers, high achievers and single-minded in their approach to university. Stephen Hsu, a physics prof at the University of Oregon who has written about the often subtle forms of discrimination faced by Asian-American university applicants, describes them as doing “disproportionately well—they tend to have high SAT scores, good grades in high school, and a lot of them really want to go to top universities.

* The impact of high admissions rates for Asian students has been an issue for years in the U.S., where high school guidance counsellors have come to accept that it’s just more difficult to sell their Asian applicants to elite colleges. In 2006, at its annual meeting, the National Association for College Admission Counseling explored the issue in an expert panel discussion called “Too Asian?” One panellist, Rachel Cederberg—an Asian-American then working as an admissions official at Colorado College—described fellow admissions officers complaining of “yet another Asian student who wants to major in math and science and who plays the violin.” A Boston Globe article early this year asked, “Do colleges redline Asian-Americans?” and concluded there’s likely an “Asian ceiling” at elite U.S. universities. After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996 forbidding affirmative action in the state’s public dealings, Asians soared to 40 per cent of the population at public universities, even though they make up just 13 per cent of state residents.

* In his 2009 book No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal, Princeton University sociologist Thomas Espenshade surveyed 10 elite U.S. universities and found that Asian applicants needed an extra 140 points on their SAT scores to be on equal footing with white applicants. Scandals over such unfair admissions practices have surfaced in recent years at Stanford, Harvard University, the University of California at Berkeley and elsewhere.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/11/10/too-asian/3/

[adrenaLINe]

So, Asians are doing better than Americans, but 30,40, 50 years ago, they weren't. Then 500 years ago, they were doing better than Europeans, and so was the middle east, which right now we'd probably agree isn't. And so on.

Which pretty much proves there is zero to the race thing, and even broad cultural assumptions aren't good for much, except for some habits or patterns in a short term.

true all civilizations rise and fall...but as the USA "officially" borrows 41,000 dollars per second

(unofficially $158,548.00 per second)

there are no assumptions, in ensuring the USA wont see its rise again for a long long time

Who knows, you don't know for damn sure. There a lot of factors that could impact the rise and fall of a number of countries, regions etc. US looked for sure in the crapper before, and recovered, who knows. No one's arguing about China's resurgence, but there are certainly factors there that could cause issues as well.

Whatever. It's a basketball forum. But if we have to assume all the good Asian sterotypes are true, then I guess we gotta believe the rice dick sterotype is true as well, mkay?

dude you already believe that "rice dick sterotype" is true already....

Asians cant drive worth sheit either... old ones too slow.... young ones way too fast...

im fine with these stereotypes... just give credit where credit is due...

when it comes to educating their young

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Hidden tigers: why do Chinese children do so well at school?

Children of Chinese origin, whether rich or poor, do incredibly well in school – but hardly any studies have been done to find out why

It seems a hugely under-researched phenomenon within English education. But Jessie Tang thinks she has the answer.

"It's mostly the parents. Chinese parents tend to push their children a lot, and have really high expectations. I think it's maybe because they did not have the opportunities that we have these days. They want us to take advantage of them."

Jessie, 18, an A-level student at Watford grammar school for girls, whose father arrived in England from Hong Kong, was being asked about what seems an amazing success story buried and barely commented upon within English schools' results.

The statistics relate to the achievement of pupils of Chinese ethnicity, revealed last autumn in a report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission on inequality in Britain.

This showed not only that British Chinese youngsters are the highest performing ethnic group in England at GCSE, which has been known for years. It also showed that this group seemed to be singularly successful in achieving that goal of educational policy-makers everywhere: a narrow performance gap between those from the poorest homes, and the rest.

Further evidence of the success of pupils of Chinese heritage came through the world's most well-known international testing study, Pisa. This found 15-year-olds from Shanghai, China, easily outperforming those of all other nationalities.

The domestic statistics show that, at GCSE, children of Chinese ethnicity – classed simply as "Chinese" in the data – who are eligible for free school meals (FSM) perform better than the national average for all pupils, rich and poor.

Not only that, but FSM Chinese pupils do better than those of most other ethnic backgrounds, even when compared with children from better-off homes (those not eligible for free school meals).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... ol-do-well

[No35]

SMH

[NBA Fan 1234]

Cut the sh*t about which ethnicity is the best.