The Javale McGee Appreciation thread - part deux

[tontoz]

Posted this in another thread, but it's relevant here too:

I'm a bit less optimistic than nate about the team's defensive performance at the end of last season. The schedule they played the last 25 games of the season was weaker than average offensively -- average 103.4 pts per 100 possessions. They allowed 102, which is a little better than average. Throw out that last Miami game where the Heat didn't play anyone, and they allowed 103 pts per 100 possessions, which is average for the schedule they played).

That's WAY better than what they did in the preceding 41 games, and I'll take average as a step forward. And maybe they can take a step to top 10 defensively with Okafor and Ariza and good health (for a change). So, there's reason to hope they can get to the playoffs in the next season or two.

Nene didn't play much and Booker was out for what, a month? When both of those guys were out there was a noticable drop off in the defense.

[MF23]

Nene is the only player I would consider a good defender on last seasons team. It's unfair people pin pointed McGee as the problem when Young, Blatche and Wall were bad at executing defensively. It was all of them having fundamental issues running defensive sets correctly.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nene is the only player I would consider a good defender on last seasons team. It's unfair people pin pointed McGee as the problem when Young, Blatche and Wall were bad at executing defensively. It was all of them having fundamental issues running defensive sets correctly.

--I think Booker and at times Seraphin were good defenders. Both defend the low post much better than Javale McGee. I liked McGee's offensive potential in transition, his rebounding, and his weakside shotblocking. That said, it was obvious the first time Booker and Seraphin played together they were fine defensively and much better than what the Wizards previously played. However, Flip had his system and preference for players like Blatche and Yi Jianlian. Seraphin never played with McGee. The Wizards never played the defense they could have even before Nene arrived.

--Shelvin Mack is IMO a better defender than Wall. Mack gets too much grief for being a decent player.

--James Singleton played very good defense in his time with the Wizards. When Booker went down, his defense with great offense made most of the difference in this team. Not bringing back James Singleton boggles my mind.

--For all the grief I got over him, Almond played significantly better defense than Crawford or Wall, or any other Wizard guard, for that matter.

The Wizards have a lot of guys who can defend well. Adding Okafor and Ariza should mean they maintain continuity on defense and they defend tough all game. I expect Vesely to improve. Singleton had a reptutation for defense but I wasn't impressed his rookie season. Still he can be better than average defensively.

[hands11]

Nene is the only player I would consider a good defender on last seasons team. It's unfair people pin pointed McGee as the problem when Young, Blatche and Wall were bad at executing defensively. It was all of them having fundamental issues running defensive sets correctly.

--I think Booker and at times Seraphin were good defenders. Both defend the low post much better than Javale McGee. I liked McGee's offensive potential in transition, his rebounding, and his weakside shotblocking. That said, it was obvious the first time Booker and Seraphin played together they were fine defensively and much better than what the Wizards previously played. However, Flip had his system and preference for players like Blatche and Yi Jianlian. Seraphin never played with McGee. The Wizards never played the defense they could have even before Nene arrived.

--Shelvin Mack is IMO a better defender than Wall. Mack gets too much grief for being a decent player.

--James Singleton played very good defense in his time with the Wizards. When Booker went down, his defense with great offense made most of the difference in this team. Not bringing back James Singleton boggles my mind.

--For all the grief I got over him, Almond played significantly better defense than Crawford or Wall, or any other Wizard guard, for that matter.

The Wizards have a lot of guys who can defend well. Adding Okafor and Ariza should mean they maintain continuity on defense and they defend tough all game. I expect Vesely to improve. Singleton had a reptutation for defense but I wasn't impressed his rookie season. Still he can be better than average defensively.

I must have missed that. What I remember was everyone being happy for you because he was a player you targeted and we added him.

For all the grief EG gets, he did add these D League type players. We did add J Singleton and Gee as well. Martin was that kind of player and they are keeping him around this year. James is mostly a PF and I think we have a full rosters of players there. Basically you had to choose. Booker or James Singleton. They choose Booker who is already signed. Booker not only gets one more year to show us where he fits or not, but he is more of a tradable asset if they want to go that direction. So I get the decision to keep Booker over Singleton and I'm a big J Singleton fan. Would have loved to have kept him. But they did make an offer. He declined it. Now he is going back to China again because not another team in the league offered anything better. Sounds like EG priced it right. Now we could have bid against ourselves. But I thought people hated when the Wiz did that.

Since they found these players in the past, I would suspect they will find them again in the future.

J Singleton got no takers again. The Wiz offered him a contract but he wanted more. Ok. I get his side of things. But I think he has made mistakes the last two years in deciding where he would play. If he wants a bigger contract in the NBA, he needs to stick around for more then the end of the year. He should have stayed with the Wiz the year before and he should have stayed with them again this year.

All that said, I wouldn't be surprised if they Wiz don't bring him back later in the year... AGAIN

[pancakes3]

1 - small sample size doesn't automatically throw out the data. if the significance is high enough, the conclusion can still be plausible.

2 - mcgee is hellbent on working on his offensive game but really he should be asking hakeem how to defend, no? i bet that played into the riff between the mcgees and the 'zards. the mcgee side goes - "the wizards don't want to develop me (my boy)" and the wizards probably said something closer to "well, it'd be nice if you worked on your hook shot but really we'd prefer if you'd watch some tape and see just how clueless you look on defense at time. we need you to qb the defense and you're just not doing it."

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1 - small sample size doesn't automatically throw out the data. if the significance is high enough, the conclusion can still be plausible.

It doesn't throw out the data, only any conclusion you'd like to draw from the data. Any ability to rely on the data. Any ability to predict based on the data. That kind of thing. Otherwise, it's just fine. Entertaining for one thing.

[montestewart]

1 - small sample size doesn't automatically throw out the data. if the significance is high enough, the conclusion can still be plausible.

It doesn't throw out the data, only any conclusion you'd like to draw from the data. Any ability to rely on the data. Any ability to predict based on the data. That kind of thing. Otherwise, it's just fine. Entertaining for one thing.

Why does everything always have to lead back to Tracy Murray's 50 point game?

[payitforward]

1 - small sample size doesn't automatically throw out the data. if the significance is high enough, the conclusion can still be plausible.

It doesn't throw out the data, only any conclusion you'd like to draw from the data. Any ability to rely on the data. Any ability to predict based on the data. That kind of thing. Otherwise, it's just fine. Entertaining for one thing.

Why does everything always have to lead back to Tracy Murray's 50 point game?

"Entertaining for one thing" ??

[hands11]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1349 ... -potential

We all know the kid had amazing potential but..

McGee's shortcomings in this regard point to a general lack of intelligence on the court, one that so often yields the lowlights seen so frequently on YouTube.

he surrendered a sky-high player efficiency rating (PER) of 21.2 to opposing centers while with the Nuggets, albeit an improvement over the 21.8 mark he surrendered with the Wizards (per 82games.com).

McGee doesn't box out well and is too often pulled out of proper position when lunging for unsuccessful swats. According to ESPN's John Hollinger, Washington's rebound rate dropped by 5.4 percent when McGee was on the floor, while Denver's plummeted a full four percent.

And McGee probably isn't even starting in Denver this year.

Remember..McGee didn't give the Wizards much choice. They have other young players they need to develop. He n Nick were bone heads. The Wiz did well to get a starter of Nene's quality to help Wall and now Beal develop as winners. Hell, Kevin may even still prove to be something special.

Denver was in a different situation. They could afford the risk more and they gain by McGee getting a fresh start some place else. The Wiz needed something different and they got it in Nene.

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