Bradley Beal

payitforward · Post #361 » by **payitforward** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:24 pm

montestewart wrote:Hands, it's time to start a poll to see if he should be made team captain.

Make him GM -- it'd be an improvement.

Knighthonor · Post #362 » by **Knighthonor** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:31 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Beal is probably the best wizard of all time

The Hall of Fame is actually considering forgoing the retirement requirement for selecting him to the HOF. Quoted one high-ranking member, "He's just that damn good."

crap I want to see these games!!!

hands11 · Post #363 » by **hands11** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:16 pm

payitforward wrote:
hands11 wrote:Not to get ahead of ourselves but ...opens up a legit path to being a deep playoff team over the next 8 years.

I agree; lets not get ahead of ourselves. Still, I'm glad that we now have a legit path to 8 outstanding years.

And, amazingly, we did it without getting ahead of ourselves!

You go, Hands!

np

A legit path is simply that. If you have two young studs at PG and SG, then you have opportunities to add a long term 3rd piece. 8 year is a large window to get that done. But that is simply Wall getting at age 30.

I feel good about the future of this franchise. We paid the price to get into the situation we are in. We watch through back to back tanks and crap unplained tank before that. Through the EFJ years. Through the Gil false hope years. Through EFJ not playing Haywood. Haywood fighting with Etan. DS and the credit card smile. Nick de de deet. Through Kwame. It has been though. But things are looking much better with the pieces they have to build from.

Glad to see them resting Nene because once he is ready, we should have a nice core 3 and nice filler pieces in Webster, Kevin and Booker. And maybe a filler piece or two after that in C Singleton, Martin and Pargo.

A step at a time, I think the preseason will start to shape out for them. Then we get to see what they can do in real games. Should be a fun year. Should be a fun future.

hands11 · Post #364 » by **hands11** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:19 pm

montestewart wrote:Hands, it's time to start a poll to see if he should be made team captain.

lol...

Like I said, I think Randy is going to make him wait to even start. The board will likely be screaming for him to start before he gets his first start.

Post #365 » by **montestewart** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:15 pm

hands11 wrote:
montestewart wrote:Hands, it's time to start a poll to see if he should be made team captain.

lol...

Like I said, I think Randy is going to make him wait to even start. The board will likely be screaming for him to start before he gets his first start.

Really, with Wall out and other top players hobbled, can the team really afford not to start its best players, and give them a lot of minutes? I understand Beal is a long term investment, and they may not want to put too much on his shoulders too soon, but he keeps looking like he's ready for it. Starting or 1st man off the bench, I hope he gets a lot minutes, and based on the way Crawford's play still seems to lead to a chaos of confused offense, I'd like to see them trying a lot of Webster and Martin too. Stop the herky jerky.

hands11 · Post #366 » by **hands11** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:16 am

Lets put it this way.

I don't think he will start next game.

Nor the game after that.

I guess the question is, will he start before the first regular season game ?

Will it be the first regular season game ?

Or will Randy hold out longer then that ?

As long as it is preseason and the games don't count, Randy has time to let him get comfortable and develop a rhythm just where he is. He gets to watch for a little, then he comes in. I don't think Randy wants to start him before he has to because once he is starting, that will be even more pressure on the kid. For now, he has had two back to back successful games which is great for his confidence. Best to keep that going for now. Specially since the games don't count yet.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Beals_Game

SSSShhhhhh :wink:

insfo · Post #367 » by **insfo** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:16 am

Wade lite? hmm .. need to catch one of these pre-season games and see if for myself. Either way, exciting times for Wizard fans!

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #368 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:24 am

Nivek wrote:And it came to pass, as they went still on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them asunder; and Beal went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Wizards luck.

No worries.

If Bradley Beal is our Wizards' "Elijah" then after the whirlwind takes him to heaven, he'll leave a protege who is twice as gifted and blessed.

dangermouse · Post #369 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:29 am

I guess the Wade comparisons come from his ability to drive and finish. Whenever someone compares a player to Ray Allen, it is based solely on shooting ability. Like Ray Allen is some one dimensional player. He might be now... BUT have these peeps ever seen Ray Ray from his Bucks days, or even his Supes days?

I think the Ray comparison is spot on. Dude can shoot, can drive and finish, can playmake. Both are high IQ players. Beal is probably the better defender of the two. And they both just look silky smooth on the court, like no wasted energy or movement.

Beal lacks the explosiveness of a guy like Wade, who is also the better finisher around the rim. What Beal lacks here he makes up with shooting.

IMO, of all the players he has been compared to, he is closest to Ray, with a bit of Eric Gordon and Wade thrown in.

I dont think he'll ever be a Wade-level franchise talent. But I think he has a chance to be as good as Ray, he has the tools and the intellect. And i think he'll be better than Eric Gordon pretty soon, too. ROY candidate, easily all-rook 1st team, and an all-star one day for sure, perhaps multiple times if the Wizards improve.

Post #370 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Beal's got a long way to go to get in RayRay's class - or even the class below - as a shooter. Remember, Ray said shooting did not come natural to him - it came as a result of hard work while at UConn. Beal's got a lot of hard work to do. Stylistically, I think a poor man's Harden is the best comp.

KembaWalker · Post #371 » by **KembaWalker** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:06 pm

I don't know where Wade comes from..Beal doesn't play anything like Wade to me. He's not quite the athlete that Bucks Ray was imo...I think Beals ceiling play style would be like Sonics Ray...super smooth 23/5/5 type guy that can do it all. I don't think he can be a number one option on a championship team or anything but I think he could be a damn good 2nd wheel. who really knows at this point though...

hands11 · Post #372 » by **hands11** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:59 pm

Ruzious wrote:Beal's got a long way to go to get in RayRay's class - or even the class below - as a shooter. Remember, Ray said shooting did not come natural to him - it came as a result of hard work while at UConn. Beal's got a lot of hard work to do. Stylistically, I think a poor man's Harden is the best comp.

I have watched enough video of this kid putting in the hard work that I am not worried about that at all.

Talented + Hard Worker + NBA Ready Body + Awesome Maturity + Already Showing a full stat stuffing game + He doesn't force his game + Willing to drive + Willing Defender + Has Range + Humble Willing Learner + Smart + He is only 19

He is more NBA ready in my view then Wall was and he is coming into a situation that is 100x better then what Wall walked into. It took Wall two years to figure out how he needs to approach the game to utilize his skills in part because he was forced to do to much to soon. Wall had a rough start but he still produced and he has tones of talent. The good news is, I think he figured it out mid last year. He learned to change speed and finish better. Now if he has added the improved shooting we all know he needed and word is he did address it, this should be a great year for Wall.

The great news is, we have them both and they are only 22 and 19.

The season is an exciting year. Best I can remember in a long long time. We get to see just how set up this franchise really is. Its hard to label either one with just one players names. Wall could be some kind of Rondo/D Rose type. Beal some kind of Ray Allen/Wade type. Whatever the names, they are talented and the combination of those names mean very good things.

Wall and Beal are a talented pairing. Now we get to see if they are one of the best pairings in the league. If so, we are set up for a long time. Top front court players would come to join those two. For now, we get to see what that would look like which would be an audition for other because we do still have Nene.

It is starting the feel like Christmas. We have all these cool presents but we haven't been able to see them yet.

Once we have all three out there, I think people are going to finally get it. And now when you need to take the final shot at the end of the quarter, half or game, you have a 3 headed monster to get it done. And they will have Webster lined up on the 3 line to spread the floor even more. Wall with the ball. Beal spotting up or drive, Nene in the post and Webster sitting on the 3 line and Okafor there to grab any missed shot.

Pretty nice.

Post #373 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:03 pm

Yup, and 10 years from now, we're gettin to the playoffs, baby! Well ok, 12 years is more reasonable - we have to give Ernie reasonable time to develop the roster.

dangermouse · Post #374 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:44 pm

Oh, and Sam Cassell used to play PG with Ray at Milwaukee early in Ray's career. So, if anyone can tutor him into being the kind of player Ray turned out to be, Sam is the guy.

Jay81 · Post #375 » by **Jay81** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:36 am

Beal was trolling all the NATS fans on twitter last night

hands11 · Post #376 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:50 am

Beal gets his first start. We may have just seem part of the transformation happening. I wonder if Randy stick to it and just starts him from here on out or if he plays if off as a short handed roster move.

I didn't think Randy would do it do soon.

I hope he stays starting. The kid is legit.

I like that he started Webster as well.

Trevor A is a bench player unless you have 4 scorer out there with him and all he need to do is play defense. We don't have that right now.

hands11 · Post #377 » by **hands11** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:59 am

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-wizar ... ry-updates

Oh, so Singleton was out from the start because of that NY shoulder thing. I thought maybe he was hurt during this game.

The Kevin S injury sucks to hear. Come on young man. How do you injury a calf. Are you not warming up properly ? It happened in the first 6 minutes.

Knighthonor · Post #378 » by **Knighthonor** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:08 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xf0_qr5_iQ[/youtube]

closg00 · Post #379 » by **closg00** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:28 pm

Beal was foolish to tweet support of the Cardinals, WTF was he thinking.

Earth2Ted · Post #380 » by **Earth2Ted** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:06 pm

Ruzious wrote:Beal's got a long way to go to get in RayRay's class - or even the class below - as a shooter. Remember, Ray said shooting did not come natural to him - it came as a result of hard work while at UConn. Beal's got a lot of hard work to do. Stylistically, I think a poor man's Harden is the best comp.

Stylistically, a poor man's Jerry West might be another one that comes to mind- West was 6- 2.5 in bare feet (Beal 6- 3.25) with a 6-9 wingspan (Beal 6-8), and his max vertical reach about 11-4 (Beal 11-7 these even out if you factor in differences in training between 1960s and now).

Other similarities would be pure shooting stroke (Jerry being the purest of the pure), ability to get to the rim with quickness and guile rather than overwhelming physicality, strong rebounding at the guard position, court vision, and overall basketball IQ.

Hopefully Beal will also become something like the defender that West was- Jerry was legendary on that end of the court too. (I think he will need some work here, it looked like JR Smith was a tough matchup for him).

And hopefully we are not jinxing Bradley with these comparisons... :-?