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Post#1 » by Knighthonor » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:05 am

Hey post/share your radical ideas for improving the Washington Wizards in any capable way...
Maybe its crazy, maybe its logical, maybe its even funny. share it.

I can start.


1) Start Beal and Crawford together in the lineup. Ether have JC at PG with BB at SG, or some other format.

2)Send Beal in a temporary trade to the Heat for a single season. Let him learn for a year from a good team environment on how to play and handle the game. After the year is up, he comes back to the Wizards with the skills her learned from a good team.

3)Do idea number 2, but with Crawford,Vesly, Singleton

4)Well just tank... nothing seem to be going right this season. So just drop it...
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Post#2 » by fugop » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:08 am

The Heat would ruin those guys. No rookie has ever met their potential playing alongside Bosh, Wade, or James, either in combination or individually.

The season hasn't started, fyi. We looked terrible at times against the Nets, but they are obviously a better team than us.
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Post#3 » by verbal8 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:43 pm

The addition of Okafor is a little bit old is supposed to make the Wizards a little bit better.

Imagine where they could go if they signed Don Wiberg.

Seventy-six-year-old Don Wiberg hadn't played basketball in 20 years, having traded it in for beach volleyball, when he stepped on the court Sunday. He admits he couldn't make his high school team and that he played one year at Cal Tech before deciding he was better at water polo.

Still, he couldn't resist the S.C. Warriors' claim that it would welcome anyone over 18 who was willing to pay the $100-125 entry fee.

"It's on my bucket list," he said. "You know, what the hell."


http://www.insidebayarea.com/warriors/c ... source=rss

In all seriousness, I am sure the tryout was a great experience for him. Well at least as much seriousness as there can be with a 76 year old and playing professional basketball.
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Post#4 » by dobrojim » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:05 pm

fugop wrote:The Heat would ruin those guys. No rookie has ever met their potential playing alongside Bosh, Wade, or James, either in combination or individually.

The season hasn't started, fyi. We looked terrible at times against the Nets, but they are obviously a better team than us.


I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the Nets game. As a team I guess
you're not that far off. But the biggest question marks mostly played reasonably
well, even Crawford. Project a rotation of Nene/Ok/Veen/Book/Ves as your bigs.
Webster/Martin/Ariza/CSing as your swing players, and Wall/Beal/Craw/Mack as
your guards and I'm not at all convinced that we're worse than the Nets. But I'll admit
that I'm usually overly optimistic especially at this time of year.

I'll also note that's 13 players above. Other than Wall, we have a fair degree of
replaceable parts. Wall is the wild card. Will he come back healthy? Will he come
back significantly improved? I accept that these issues remain to be seen. And we
are talking about the Wizards.
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Post#5 » by closg00 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 pm

Send Jan to the D-League and keep him there until he is not afraid to shoot the ball.
He would be under less pressure to perform in the NBDL.
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Post#6 » by montestewart » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:42 pm

No pants kickball night at the Phonebooth. That'll shake things up.
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Post#7 » by fugop » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:03 pm

dobrojim wrote:I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of the Nets game. As a team I guess
you're not that far off. But the biggest question marks mostly played reasonably
well, even Crawford. Project a rotation of Nene/Ok/Veen/Book/Ves as your bigs.
Webster/Martin/Ariza/CSing as your swing players, and Wall/Beal/Craw/Mack as
your guards and I'm not at all convinced that we're worse than the Nets. But I'll admit
that I'm usually overly optimistic especially at this time of year.

I'll also note that's 13 players above. Other than Wall, we have a fair degree of
replaceable parts. Wall is the wild card. Will he come back healthy? Will he come
back significantly improved? I accept that these issues remain to be seen. And we
are talking about the Wizards.


I want to keep my expectations in check. We have a PG who has been slow to develop, a talented rookie at SG, and a complete question mark at SF. We have a nice big rotation, but they haven't played together yet in the preseason, and it's reasonable to expect growing pains from all of our backups and downtime from our starters.

Our big rotation is probably better than the Nets'. Our 1-3 is certainly not, although that could change with another year of development.

The Nets could be really good. They are slapdash assembled, and the pieces don't fit with Avery Johnson's preconceptions, in my opinion. If you exchanged Lopez for someone like Dalembert and replaced A. Johnson with someone like Skiles or Thibodeau, they could be an extremely tough team. Turn them into a half court team running a bunch of triangle sets.

But even so, last night was only their second preseason game, and it was their first game in their new arena.
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Post#8 » by Ruzious » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:58 pm

My crazy radical idea is to try to build an elite team - rather than a team that might eventually challenge for the last playoff spot.
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Post#9 » by closg00 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:19 pm

Ruzious wrote:My crazy radical idea is to try to build an elite team - rather than a team that might eventually challenge for the last playoff spot.


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Post#10 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:33 pm

1. Fire Ernie Grunfeld … It actually is a good idea that just sounds radical because it seems like it's never going to happen. Does that count?

2. Trade Emeka Okafor and Chris Singleton to Atlanta for Josh Smith. Add a future first to make it happen.

Smith won't resign with ATL and it cannot hurt the Wizards badly even if Josh Smith doesn't resign in Washington. Washington would be adding a superstar talent alongside Wall, Beal, Nene, and Webster. The Wizards would also free up some cap space for next season.
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Post#11 » by DMVleGeND » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:55 pm

Ruzious wrote:My crazy radical idea is to try to build an elite team - rather than a team that might eventually challenge for the last playoff spot.


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Post#12 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:21 pm

Of course the simplest and biggest step by far towards transforming the franchise is obvious. Fire Ernie. I am amazed at the hash he's made of the simplest phase of a rebuild -- namely starting from scratch w/ a) high draft choices in both rounds of several drafts in a row and b) increasing cap room and flexibility over a sequence of off seasons. Replace him w/ someone who comes out of the SA or OKC FO.

With our current roster....

1. Start Nene at the C and Booker at the PF. Okafor backs up both positions, and all 3 get about the same minutes. Actually, it doesn't matter who starts; Nene gets as many minutes as he can handle, Okafor is monitored. Seraphin and Vesely get spot minutes until they earn more than that by a) continually kicking one of the above's butt in practice and b) posting repeated, genuine production on the floor (I don't mean "improvement").

2. Trade Jordan Crawford for one or more of several high round 2 picks from the draft just past (if the trade can be made to work w/in the CBA). Alternatively, if you can't do that, trade him for one or more picks next year. Take the best picks you can get wherever they are. But... see #8 below.

3. If no trade is possible, don't pick up his option.

4. Start Singleton at the 3; need to find out if and how he can contribute in the NBA. Ariza backs him up. Martin gets spot minutes until he repeatedly kicks Ariza's butt in practice.

5. Webster backs up Beal at the 2 (maybe some minutes at the 3 as well, depending on Ariza's performance).

6. Start Mack until Wall gets back. Then he becomes the backup. Price and Pargo sit on the bench or, if we have the stomach for it, waive one of them. Hell, waive them both.

7. Do these things and, barring injuries, we will win 45 games. This leads me to #8.

8. Assuming Ernie is gone and our rotation is as above, there might be a better way to move Crawford: trade him and our next year #1 pick to the worst team you can find for their #1 next year and their top-of-round-2 pick (or something else of genuine value). Hope to find a trading partner that assumes we're going to have a pretty high draft choice -- which we won't if we do the above -- and maybe we'll find a taker.

If Ernie's gone and #8 works, we're back in the game of building a team that contend. Out of the Ernie game of building a team that can "compete."
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Post#13 » by Higga » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:36 pm

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Post#14 » by dangermouse » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:58 am

closg00 wrote:Send Jan to the D-League and keep him there until he is not afraid to shoot the ball.
He would be under less pressure to perform in the NBDL.


Ive actually been thinking this same thing. When others return, he'll have no minutes anyway.
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Post#15 » by fishercob » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:47 am

I was hoping to read more "RADICAL-Wizard" ideas in this thread.

A full page in and no Wall trades? No Seraphin trades?

If you had to move pieces of our young core, what moves would you make?
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Post#16 » by payitforward » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:17 pm

fishercob wrote:I was hoping to read more "RADICAL-Wizard" ideas in this thread.

A full page in and no Wall trades? No Seraphin trades?

If you had to move pieces of our young core, what moves would you make?

Fine fine -- lets trade Wall for Seraphin! And, if we can pull off two such radical moves, vice versa too.
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Post#17 » by montestewart » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:18 pm

fishercob wrote:I was hoping to read more "RADICAL-Wizard" ideas in this thread.

A full page in and no Wall trades? No Seraphin trades?

If you had to move pieces of our young core, what moves would you make?

No love for no pants kickball, eh?

I tried to come up with a new Wall trade, but CCJ's already proposed them all.
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Post#18 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:55 pm

monte, if I were smarter/younger/more computer savvy or knew who to ask for help I'd start my own video blog.

I would love to interview a lot of the players, coaches, and any GM brave enough to risk being asked questions they might not really want to answer. I think I would also talk on the things I'm passionate about besides hoops, too. Education, Movies, Family Court and Parenting/Life after divorce, and probably Military Family stuff. Heck, I'd even talk Mental Health. I think I would leave faith out it by my disclaimer would be my profession/confession at the top of all that. The funny thing is I'd love to talk about the bible, but it gets too weird/strained/emotional because most people with disparate beliefs cannot stay civil or agree to disagree.

I've got a lot on my mind. Great stuff, lately, tbh. Most of it not NC-17, too. :D
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Post#19 » by fishercob » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:58 pm

Wall and Okafor for Conley and Marc Gasol. That would be pretty radical.
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Post#20 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:03 pm

fishercob wrote:Wall and Okafor for Conley and Marc Gasol. That would be pretty radical.


fish, you're psychic.

I thought to myself a few minutes ago about the only Wall trades I can think of as feasible involve Mike Conley! I hadn't considered Gasol, but I'm all for moving Okafor.
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