Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.)

magicman123 · Post #141 » by **magicman123** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:10 pm

A part of me just died

welcome to EMO

NEM · Post #142 » by **NEM** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:18 pm

now has a total of 11 new players, and 4 guys coming back from last year...4! and JJ might be getting traded this year lol, which would mean 3, jameer, baby, and hedo

NEM · Post #143 » by **NEM** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:19 pm

Q is probably signing with new york or LA (lakers or clippers)

MagicTownBaller · Post #144 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:19 pm

I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

Bo Outlaw · Post #145 » by **Bo Outlaw** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:22 pm

I haven't been excited about Magic rookies in a long time but now I have 4 to be excited about.

magicman123 · Post #146 » by **magicman123** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:25 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

We are officially in tank mode

MoMM · Post #147 » by **MoMM** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:27 pm

Bo Outlaw wrote:I haven't been excited about Magic rookies in a long time but now I have 4 to be excited about.

I prefer this kind of Magic rookie

Magic#1 · Post #148 » by **Magic#1** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:28 pm

I'm liking these decisions. It just sucks we lost what will be two relatively high second rounders for nothing.

Leopold_Stoich · Post #149 » by **Leopold_Stoich** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:28 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

McBob's contract presents decent trade value.

ADRajX · Post #150 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:31 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Justin has the potential. He's in phenomenal shape, but he can't defend and his shot is inconsistent at best. More time in Europe may do him some good actually.

I agree with this. Justin has the tools to be a good forward, he just has to put it together and work on his consistency at both ends. He might need some time in the NBDL or Europe.

I think it was a huge mistake that Otis and his crew told Justin to bulk up and he didnt need to. I think it sabotaged his shooting. He needs to lose the bulk and get some finesse back.

That's actually a very good point. Adding bulk/muscle, especially to the arms will change a player's shot (timing, release, touch). Remember when T-Mac added bulk before his 2nd season with us, and in his first 20 games or so he was shooting terribly. He ended up slimming down and losing the bulk over the season and his shot came back.

ADRajX · Post #151 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:34 pm

Leopold_Stoich wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

McBob's contract presents decent trade value.

This^ +1

Also unlike Duhon, I highly doubt McRoberts will see any playing time behind our forwards and bigs. He can take over Q-Rich's old job... cheerleader.

and speaking of cheerleaders... or a dancer in this instance

MoMM wrote:
Bo Outlaw wrote:I haven't been excited about Magic rookies in a long time but now I have 4 to be excited about.

I prefer this kind of Magic rookie

I approve

Bo Outlaw · Post #152 » by **Bo Outlaw** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:34 pm

NEM wrote:now has a total of 11 new players, and 4 guys coming back from last year...4! and JJ might be getting traded this year lol, which would mean 3, jameer, baby, and hedo

and Ish

blue and white · Post #153 » by **blue and white** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:35 pm

Leopold_Stoich wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

McBob's contract presents decent trade value.

simple as that. Q was untradeable where mcbob has some value which is helpful in a full rebuild. lets just hope we can trade mcbob into a second rounder before the draft

MoMM · Post #154 » by **MoMM** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:36 pm

McRob is only 2 years older than Harper, he is very undervalued here, IMO. People talk like McRob is almost 30 and Harper is only a rookie. Remember, Harper was a senior when came here (17/7 is last season, when was 19 he averaged 9/4) and McRob played only 2 seasons for Duke (13/7 in last season at 19 years old). Probably he was much better ranked when was at HS too, because he went to Duke, not Richmond.

Josh averaged 7/5 2 seasons ago, he isnt that bad. Harper can't average it even in summer league games on regular basis. Another thing is that McRob is a good expiring to be traded along another player (JJ or Al, ie).

MoMM · Post #155 » by **MoMM** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:38 pm

blue and white wrote:
Leopold_Stoich wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:I can't believe we waived Q over McRoberts. Every time I see McRoberts, I think of a PF version of Duhon.

McBob's contract presents decent trade value.

simple as that. Q was untradeable where mcbob has some value which is helpful in a full rebuild. lets just hope we can trade mcbob into a second rounder before the draft

And dont forget Q had a trade kicker to "help" us trading him. We should have traded him in the D12 deal, but i think Rob just couldn't to, no one wanted him and doesnt make sense to send a 1st with him just to get ride of his contract.

Bo Outlaw · Post #156 » by **Bo Outlaw** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:55 pm

so

Nelson/Moore/Ish
Afflalo/Redick/Jones
Hedo/Harrington/Harkless
Baby/Nicholson/McRoberts
Vucevic/Ayon/O'Quinn

Coach_McGuirk · Post #157 » by **Coach_McGuirk** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:12 pm

Waiving Q also opens up PT for Harkless, so Q would have only been sitting on the bench anyway.

Leopold_Stoich · Post #158 » by **Leopold_Stoich** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:24 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Justin has the potential. He's in phenomenal shape, but he can't defend and his shot is inconsistent at best. More time in Europe may do him some good actually.

I agree with this. Justin has the tools to be a good forward, he just has to put it together and work on his consistency at both ends. He might need some time in the NBDL or Europe.

I think it was a huge mistake that Otis and his crew told Justin to bulk up and he didnt need to. I think it sabotaged his shooting. He needs to lose the bulk and get some finesse back.

That's how I felt, I will definitely come out and say I was rooting for the guy for quite a while. When he came out of college he looked like a baby Rashard and I figured with some grooming in the NBA he would've became a nice back up but all that muscle did something to him you can definitely see that.

Post #159 » by **Howard Mass** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:30 pm

Waiving Quentin Richardson was the right move. He did not fit in here anymore with The Magic needing time to develop Harkless, Jones and maybe even giving Afflalo some time at the 3 too.

The Magic will likely eat contracts next year in deals for picks and/or young players so eating $2.8 million on the cap will not be that bad. Those picks that were sent away for Harper can be replaced this way as well.

McRoberts is another big body and someone who The Magic might be able to get a second or two for the deadline. It's possible they can also use his expiring to take a contract from next season in a deal that could maybe net a first. Lots of flexibility with that expiring.

Overall, The Magic made the right calls here.

Bo Outlaw · Post #160 » by **Bo Outlaw** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:34 pm

Quentin Richardson ‏@QRich

Much love & respect for all the support and well wishes from everyone. Truly humbled! Thank u all! #blessed

Congrats to @dequanjones5 on making the squad!! Bright future ahead! Kid got game!! Embrace him Magic Fans u won’t be disappointed!!

QRich is a great guy.