James Harden traded to the Rockets

Strange Clouds · Post #161 » by **Strange Clouds** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:12 am

eslr wrote:People are really underrating how bad Kevin Martin is.

+1 there's a reason he's been bouncing around like a basketball.

Stunnaboy2K11 · Post #162 » by **Stunnaboy2K11** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:12 am

Holy. Hell.

All I'm gonna say is, A Lin-Harden backcourt is going to be amazing. Amazingly good or bad I don't know yet. But amazing none the less.

deanwoof · Post #163 » by **deanwoof** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

David Stern's last 'wish' was to have a Kobe vs LeBron finals.

goldenarmz97 · Post #164 » by **goldenarmz97** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

eslr wrote:People are really underrating how bad Kevin Martin is.

In a bench role? With a healthy Maynard distributing the ball? I see it as business as usual.

PurpleRooster · Post #165 » by **PurpleRooster** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

Good trade all around to be honest.

SweetTouch · Post #166 » by **SweetTouch** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

Inigo_Montoya wrote:Congrats to the Thunder, could be a little rough in the short term but there is gonna be a whole lot of young talent heading their way. Especially if they can keep their efficient drafting up.

Cole Aldrich was efficient?

Super Selby · Post #167 » by **Super Selby** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

People need to stop overrating draft picks. Oh wow, they got that sought after Toronto Raptors 1st round pick. Who knows what kind of great player OKC can take with the 10th pick in the draft. Yeah Harden is hella overrated but Martin is straight garbage buckets while they can get some more Cole Aldrich's and Reggie Jackson's with their Raptors and Mavs picks

InFlames · Post #168 » by **InFlames** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 am

eslr wrote:People are really underrating how bad Kevin Martin is.

Exactly.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #169 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

Presti took this right outta kevin oconners book ala Deron Williams trade....if you dont seem like ur gonna extend ur gone

Mateen Cleaves · Post #170 » by **Mateen Cleaves** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

SternSucks wrote:
InFlames wrote:
SternSucks wrote:So the Rockets were willing to offer all that for Harden but not D12??? Doesn't make sense

D12 wouldn't commit to Houston, no way Houston gives up all that for a rental Dwight.

So they've already got a commitment from Harden?

RFA.....

black bart · Post #171 » by **black bart** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

Well they got mid draft picks in one of the worst draft years ever. Jeremy Lamb will be good though. But not this year. This is a salary dump.

Woolyy · Post #172 » by **Woolyy** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

goodnight sweet oklahoma city.

hello kobe lebron finals.

Inigo_Montoya · Post #173 » by **Inigo_Montoya** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

SweetTouch wrote:
Inigo_Montoya wrote:Congrats to the Thunder, could be a little rough in the short term but there is gonna be a whole lot of young talent heading their way. Especially if they can keep their efficient drafting up.

Cole Aldrich was efficient?

outlier

Bank Shot · Post #174 » by **Bank Shot** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

OKC **** up hard. Wow. This is insane.

You have a window now take it. K Martin is not taking you anywhere. They overrated Ibaka and are paying the price.

wackywabbit · Post #175 » by **wackywabbit** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

Pretty good haul.

Have you guys been paying attention to what other teams have been getting for losing all-star players? Outside of Utah and maybe Denver (who gave up much better players), this stands up pretty well.

Tirion · Post #176 » by **Tirion** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

You can see who actually understands advanced stats, by their reaction in this thread.

Houston won.

All this talk about Lamb and picks is premature, stats say Lamb is an average prospect, picks are impossible to predict.

What is easy to predict is Harden being much better than Martin for the remainder of their careers.

Wooderson · Post #177 » by **Wooderson** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

High 5 wrote:
Lightning25 wrote:This thread is just further confirmation that Harden is overrated on here.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if Harden totally flopped as a #1 option.

Even though the stats and eye test show that he has actually been just as good if not better with Durant/WB off the floor, and the fact that both of those guys play worse when he's on the bench? Makes sense.

Sinant · Post #178 » by **Sinant** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

Just wow.

Presti went from Top 2 GM to Bottom 5 GM in one trade.

Kilo · Post #179 » by **Kilo** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

Will OKC move KMart's expiring and the picks for a Harden upgrade?

Toronto and Dallas picks will be mid-first types - 15-20 range. TO's is that tricky one where it's put off until it's eventually a lotto pick though right? So it's not necessarily for this years pick.

sisibilio · Post #180 » by **sisibilio** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:15 am

Super Selby wrote:People need to stop overrating draft picks. Oh wow, they got that sought after Toronto Raptors 1st round pick. Who knows what kind of great player OKC can take with the 10th pick in the draft. Yeah Harden is hella overrated but Martin is straight garbage buckets while they can get some more Cole Aldrich's and Reggie Jackson's with their Raptors and Mavs picks

The key piece IMO is Lamb, the picks are just the icing on the cake.