Harden to the Rockets

wiff · Post #1 » by **wiff** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:05 am

Just saw Chris Brussard on espn say the Harden is traded to the rockets. Sounds like its Harden, Cook, Aldrich, and Haywood for Kmart and Lamb.

I guess that's what you get when you turn down 13mil a year in OKC. Wow who saw this coming? Oh wait that was me!

Balkman32 · Post #2 » by **Balkman32** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:37 am

Wow!

I wonder hit the Thunder will handle the SG and C position now.

Krodis · Post #3 » by **Krodis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:33 am

Just because you predicted something catastrophically stupid like this doesn't make it not catastrophically stupid.

Devilanche · Post #4 » by **Devilanche** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:39 am

I'M quite pleased that the team decided they didnt want to go higher than 54m than him. We were willing to spend just not max money spending.

Time to have houston on watch to see if harden could be a first option.

Krodis · Post #5 » by **Krodis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:41 am

So we don't spend money on Harden, and instead spend money on no one, get Kevin Martin for a year to play bad defense and turn the ball over, and then hope a bunch of late lottery players turn into stars or Ibaka turns into the second coming of Shawn Kemp offensively for us to have any chance of beating the Lakers or Spurs.

I'm freaking thrilled.

Devilanche · Post #6 » by **Devilanche** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:58 am

Martin is the type of player that does well in a contract year. He can shoot the ball and it wasn't like Harden was a good defender though he's not martin level bad.

Those late lotto picks just have to perform like role players while Ibaka just need to offensively be more reliable with his jumper.

Wasn't the best trade that i thought we could have but wasn't the worst either.

DeHubb · Post #7 » by **DeHubb** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:08 am

Mavs Fan not trying to cause trouble , but OKC i believe made a good trade team wise. OKC already has 2 of the top 5 scorers in Durant & Westbrook so why offer a max contract to another scorer, specially when OKC troubles are in the post scoring. The trade gives OKC money to play with while still have capable 3rd scoring option in KMartin and/or Lamb (if he turns out to be that legit player) plus they both are damn good shooters from the 3. I could see if Harden provided some type of great Defense but he didnt.

OKC made a great trade for the future specially with Westbrook,Durant,Ibaka,Perry Jones,and now Lamb locked in for some years

Dupp · Post #8 » by **Dupp** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:05 am

Cavs fan here (not that it matters but everyone seems to say it when they drop in on other boards)

Anyway, i couldn't / still can't believe this trade happened. Does anyone like it/like the hard nosed approach management took? Did anyone here see it coming?

I think its really bad for you guys sorry to say. Really makes you worse in the short term and your window is now. Not saying you wont have a window in a few years, but who know right? Personally id be furious if i was a OKC fan and as a big hater of the Lakers im annoyed at the trade. I saw you guys as the team with the best chance to knock them off in the playoffs.

Anyway you guys will still contend. Hopefully lamb and martin play well. Durant and westbrook will improve and i think westbrook especially will have a great year. Good luck and despite this trade hopefully you will be the 2012/2013 champions.

miltk · Post #9 » by **miltk** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:42 pm

i think come january you'll have forgotten about the beard and it'll be all about lamb. uconn players do really well in the league and lamb is a winner. 6-4 with 6-11 wings

Balkman32 · Post #10 » by **Balkman32** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:36 pm

So I guess Martin, Maynor, Lamb, & PJ3 are the shooters off the bench?

I wonder how the Thunder fill out the roster. I would guess Orton and a filler

Balkman32 · Post #11 » by **Balkman32** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:54 pm

I wonder if Charlotte ever offered MKG.

wiff · Post #12 » by **wiff** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:22 pm

Krodis wrote:Just because you predicted something catastrophically stupid like this doesn't make it not catastrophically stupid.

It's not stupid at all, it's business. Harden wants a max deal. I think most of us feel he will get it from some team but most of us also felt a max deal would be over paying for his service. Personally I think they got great value for him. Martin can fill it up plays zero D but he spreads the floor. Lamb is as good as any prospect out there. And the Toronto pick could turn into something special. When Phoenix gave the Sonics a first for Kurt Thomas it was a late rounder it turned into Ibaka. Have patience Krodis this trade is far from being final.

But the biggest reason why this trade was smart is OKC isn't a big league city. They simply don't have the revenue streams to over pay on a max contract when they already have two max deals on the books. You need bigs to be successful in the league that's why Perkins who do very little besides stand there gets paid bank. OKC has two of the best wing players in the league, Harden was over kill.

Krodis · Post #13 » by **Krodis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:31 pm

If Lamb was really as good as any prospect out there, he wouldn't have went freaking 12th.

Anyway, I really hope this trade isn't over. I might be able to stomach it if it gets us a solid big or something.

Devilanche · Post #14 » by **Devilanche** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:00 pm

Lamb fits Presti profile of players he like. Athletic and long.

I hope trade isn't over as well. As much as Martin scoring is good, his defence will probably hurt us come playoff. Waiting to see what we can net off that salary.

Krodis · Post #15 » by **Krodis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Anderson Varejao is my only thought.

wiff · Post #16 » by **wiff** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Krodis wrote:If Lamb was really as good as any prospect out there, he wouldn't have went freaking 12th.

Anyway, I really hope this trade isn't over. I might be able to stomach it if it gets us a solid big or something.

Lamb dropped because UCONN had a horrible year last year, well a horrible second half. The first half he was tearing it up but then the whole program was in turmoil.

Was Amare a lesser prospect because he dropped to 9th? It's not about where you are drafted its about what you can do and Lamb can do a lot of things well. Plus we all have witnessed Presti parlay picks and prospects into something nice.

Krodis · Post #17 » by **Krodis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:24 pm

Even if Lamb were a third pick you'd have to be very optimistic to think he ends up as good as Harden.

The only reason I'm not punching my computer over this trade is I'm holding out hope that there's a second trade coming. Because as is this is a disaster for a team coming off a Finals appearance.

wiff · Post #18 » by **wiff** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:10 pm

Krodis wrote:Even if Lamb were a third pick you'd have to be very optimistic to think he ends up as good as Harden.

The only reason I'm not punching my computer over this trade is I'm holding out hope that there's a second trade coming. Because as is this is a disaster for a team coming off a Finals appearance.

Such is the life of a small market team. By the way what were Hardens numbers during those finals?

Tekkenlaw · Post #19 » by **Tekkenlaw** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:14 pm

Should have traded Westbrook for a real PG and gave Harden his max.

Chalkie White · Post #20 » by **Chalkie White** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:40 pm

wiff wrote:
Krodis wrote:Even if Lamb were a third pick you'd have to be very optimistic to think he ends up as good as Harden.

The only reason I'm not punching my computer over this trade is I'm holding out hope that there's a second trade coming. Because as is this is a disaster for a team coming off a Finals appearance.

Such is the life of a small market team. By the way what were Hardens numbers during those finals?

What were Jeremy Lambs numbers in the finals? His career numbers? His disappointing collegiate numbers?

You'll soon learn the life of a small market team when the Lakers pull in another superstar or two to rebuild the Lakers after Kobe retires(they'll role this season and next as OKC awaits their late picks to develope into anything) and OKC becomes annual second round fodder.

How do you think Durant will react to losing knowing what made it possible was greedy, hard nosed management? Let James sign with LA next season and become their PnR guard of the future once Howard leaves. Then what? What message do you think this sort of move sends to the rest of the young talent on the roster?

This isnt even a championship contending team anymore, yet somehow tis is supposed to be a good trade?