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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#401 » by hands11 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:19 am

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hands11 wrote:He needs more FTs. 13 pts in 30 minutes isn't enough. Only 2 FTAs.

Webster had 10 FTAs in 28 minutes and ended up with 18 pts

Beal is averaging 6.9 FTA's per 36 minutes so far this season. That would rank him 10th in the league in FTA per minute last year.

(Caveat: people typically foul a lot in the preseason so it's probably unsafe to make extrapolations like this, but it's pretty difficult to argue that he isn't getting to the line much.)


Not sure how that can be. Most games he got only 2 FTAs. He had 2 games early on that were higher. He had one game that he got zero FTA in 30 minutes.

His mean average is 2 FTA and he is averaging 2 a game for 4 games since my post.

Hopefully he is just saving his body for the games that count.
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Post#402 » by tontoz » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:26 pm

If it was my call i would have Beal coming off the bench to start the season. He is only 19 and it is a loooong season. I see no need to rush him.

If he plays well off the bench then fine go ahead and move him into the starting spot. If he struggles i think it will have less effect on him and the team if he is coming off the bench.

I know Crawford is a mindless chucker but if you start Beal from day 1 and he struggles it will be an awkward situation.
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Post#403 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:21 pm

tontoz wrote:If it was my call i would have Beal coming off the bench to start the season. He is only 19 and it is a loooong season. I see no need to rush him.

If he plays well off the bench then fine go ahead and move him into the starting spot. If he struggles i think it will have less effect on him and the team if he is coming off the bench.

I know Crawford is a mindless chucker but if you start Beal from day 1 and he struggles it will be an awkward situation.



Good points. When he had is going in preseason it made sense to get him some starts. But he has been trailing off as the preseason went on as the starter. They may want to give him some room to adjust and collect his head.

Let him watch from the sideline then come in. Crawford already knows how to approach the start of a real NBA games so let him do it until Beal adapts. The game is already going to be faster. They may want to let him get established against the other teams second line. Things will be easier for Crawford to credit without Wall then for Beal.

Then again, he did have a decent game against Cleveland in Cleveland as the starter.

Though call.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#404 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:23 am

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Post#405 » by payitforward » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:45 pm

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tontoz wrote:If it was my call i would have Beal coming off the bench to start the season. He is only 19 and it is a loooong season. I see no need to rush him...

Good points. When he had is going in preseason it made sense to get him some starts. But he has been trailing off as the preseason went on as the starter.... Crawford already knows how to approach the start of a real NBA games so let him do it until Beal adapts. ...

In his career, I believe Martell Webster has played as much at the 2 as 3. Both he and Singleton have shown well in pre-season. Why not start them at the 2 and 3? Beal could sop up most of the minutes they leave on the table (w/ Webster moving to the 3 for some of Singleton's sit time -- or his time at the 4). Spot minutes could go to Ariza and/or Martin.

Crawford has been awful for 2 seasons, and he was just awful again in pre-season -- in all the same ways. You want to reward him why...? What's the message? Keep on doing what you've been doing?
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Post#406 » by hands11 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:43 am

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hands11 wrote:
tontoz wrote:If it was my call i would have Beal coming off the bench to start the season. He is only 19 and it is a loooong season. I see no need to rush him...

Good points. When he had is going in preseason it made sense to get him some starts. But he has been trailing off as the preseason went on as the starter.... Crawford already knows how to approach the start of a real NBA games so let him do it until Beal adapts. ...

In his career, I believe Martell Webster has played as much at the 2 as 3. Both he and Singleton have shown well in pre-season. Why not start them at the 2 and 3? Beal could sop up most of the minutes they leave on the table (w/ Webster moving to the 3 for some of Singleton's sit time -- or his time at the 4). Spot minutes could go to Ariza and/or Martin.

Crawford has been awful for 2 seasons, and he was just awful again in pre-season -- in all the same ways. You want to reward him why...? What's the message? Keep on doing what you've been doing?


Makes sense. We will see soon enough. I don't think Randy is afraid to experiment. He has been mixing and matching all preseason as they evaluated what they have and work around injuries.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#407 » by tontoz » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:34 pm

payitforward wrote:In his career, I believe Martell Webster has played as much at the 2 as 3. Both he and Singleton have shown well in pre-season. Why not start them at the 2 and 3? Beal could sop up most of the minutes they leave on the table (w/ Webster moving to the 3 for some of Singleton's sit time -- or his time at the 4). Spot minutes could go to Ariza and/or Martin.

Crawford has been awful for 2 seasons, and he was just awful again in pre-season -- in all the same ways. You want to reward him why...? What's the message? Keep on doing what you've been doing?



It isn't about rewarding Crawford it is about what is best for Beal and the team. Adjusting to the NBA isn't easy for anyone, especially a 19 year old. No reason to put extra pressure on him by starting him right off the bat.

Minny played Webster at the 2 at times and he just isn't quick enough to keep 2s in front of him.
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Post#408 » by Wizardspride » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:40 pm

Beal and Ariza are starting per various sources.

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Post#409 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:57 pm

Wizardspride wrote:Beal and Ariza are starting per various sources.

I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.
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Post#410 » by DCZards » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:34 pm

nate33 wrote:I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.


It could be that Wittman prefers to have Webster's superior offense coming off the bench with the second unit.
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Post#411 » by dangermouse » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:20 pm

Before getting too mad about Ariza starting, I think im going to wait to see if he actually decides to pull his socks up a bit or if he still plays like the ghost of Shart in meaningful games.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#412 » by tontoz » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:23 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Beal and Ariza are starting per various sources.

I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.



Maybe Wittman is caving to pressure from EG to start their $7 million dollar man.
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Post#413 » by dangermouse » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:24 pm

DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.


It could be that Wittman prefers to have Webster's superior offense coming off the bench with the second unit.


From his play in preseason, it wasnt just his offense that was superior to Trevors :|
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#414 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:50 pm

DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.


It could be that Wittman prefers to have Webster's superior offense coming off the bench with the second unit.

I prefer his superior offense on the first unit. Who else is going to score?
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Post#415 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:07 pm

I don't mind Trevor A starting. The better his numbers the greater his trade value.

I hope to see Webster on the court when it matters, at the end of close games and when the team needs scoring and energy the most.
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Post#417 » by JAR69 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:18 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I don't mind Trevor A starting. The better his numbers the greater his trade value.

I hope to see Webster on the court when it matters, at the end of close games and when the team needs scoring and energy the most.


That's what I'm hoping. Maybe the front office told Ariza he is not in their long-term plans, if he wants to get traded he needs to show something. Witt goes along to try to get him off the team. But if he doesn't produce at all after some number of games, Witt sits him.
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Post#418 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:10 pm

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Post#419 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:26 pm

tontoz wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Beal and Ariza are starting per various sources.

I just don't understand why Ariza is starting over Webster. I thought Wittman ran a meritocracy. I hope he isn't catering to Ariza's ego in an attempt to cajole him into playing hard. It's awful early in the season to start with the mind games like that.

Maybe Wittman is caving to pressure from EG to start their $7 million dollar man.

That seems the obvious reason to me.
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Post#420 » by jivelikenice » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:49 am

Beal needs to be more aggressive. It's fine to play with poise and be part of the offense, but a little more fire ad selfishness is needed. We don't need a roe player, we need a star....

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