James Harden at 80mil over 5 years

StutterStep · Post #1 » by **StutterStep** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:12 pm

WTF are the Rockets and Morey thinking?

James Harden at 80mil over 5 years :lol:

knicksnyk · Post #2 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:14 pm

what are the rockets thinking? good question easy answer. which is pnr.

StutterStep · Post #3 » by **StutterStep** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:18 pm

PNR?

Harden is a Combo Guard who at his best was no better than Ben Gordon a few years back...Ask Detroit about that signing!

Yes, Harden has a better handle....but ask GSW or Milwaukee about Monta Ellis.

Leaguepass · Post #4 » by **Leaguepass** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:20 pm

WAY WAY overpaid. I thought OKC was already generous with their offer but this one turns into a terrible contract instantly....IMO Morey can now legitimately be considered to be among the 5 worst GMs in the league. Committing 140mill. to Lin/Morey/Asik....I mean WTF is he thinking?

Nono · Post #5 » by **Nono** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:25 pm

Good contract for the third best shooting guard in the league.

StutterStep · Post #6 » by **StutterStep** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:27 pm

I may get laughed at for this BUT Lin is better than Harden, and they play pretty much the same position.

GettinitDone · Post #7 » by **GettinitDone** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:28 pm

Yes it is a good contract. He can score and make plays at very high level, he makes his teammates better, and is only going to improve.

knicksnyk · Post #8 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:30 pm

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1031/gr ... en_576.jpg

this is his shot chart. harden deserves this money. i should say that i am surprised by the amount of vitiriol is contract is getting but i am not. he is 23 and is one of the top SG's in teh NBA. Dallas Pheonix would give him this contract.

knicksnyk · Post #9 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:31 pm

StutterStep wrote:I may get laughed at for this BUT Lin is better than Harden, and they play pretty much the same position.

no he isn't and no they don't

Rasho Brezec · Post #10 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:32 pm

Nono wrote:Good contract for the third best shooting guard in the league.

Since when does position ranking determine a player's value? Let's say the 10th best SF is better than the 3rd best SG (which Harden is not btw), should they both get paid 16M per season?

Starks1994 · Post #11 » by **Starks1994** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:32 pm

I don't know about 80mil. Let's see how good of a player Harden is when Westbrook and KD aren't playing with him

knicksnyk · Post #12 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:33 pm

knicksnyk wrote:
StutterStep wrote:I may get laughed at for this BUT Lin is better than Harden, and they play pretty much the same position.

no he isn't and no they don't

for those who don't know what morey is doing it is pretty fricking clear. He's targeting a group of players that excel at one thing on offense using stats. He's actually money balling this. But it's obvious. Morey is a stats guy. Harden and Lin are two masters of the pick and roll. Morey understands Lin is a beast in isolation also. So is Harden. Other players are spot ups/gbg men. mchale loves the pnr. Houston has no PnR bigs. .They'll get 1.

knicksnyk · Post #13 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:35 pm

Starks1994 wrote:I don't know about 80mil. Let's see how good of a player Harden is when Westbrook and KD aren't playing with him

this is absurd. why is it that harden is the weak link. why isn't it lets see how good of a team okc is when harden is there to make plays for them.

Nono · Post #14 » by **Nono** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:37 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Nono wrote:Good contract for the third best shooting guard in the league.

Since when does position ranking determine a player's value? Let's say the 10th best SF is better than the 3rd best SG (which Harden is not btw), should they both get paid 16M per season?

No not really. Just saying that there are only so many good shooting guards. Contract values are relative. SGs worse than Harden are getting paid just as much. I truly believe he will be a bargain for the money he is paid. He does not have to be Houston's franchise player. They will add another max contract.

Nono · Post #15 » by **Nono** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:38 pm

Also guys, remember that this is a league where Ty Lawson is now getting $12m per year. Eric Gordon got max. And pg is a position with an abundance of talent. So it is not really that much of a stretch to give Harden max.

knicksnyk · Post #16 » by **knicksnyk** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:40 pm

goodness curry just got 11 million a year for 4 years. curry can't even stay healthy. derozan just got 10 million a year for 4 years. not much of a stretch for harden to get his paper.

boomann21 · Post #17 » by **boomann21** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:40 pm

Harden is a beautiful player and Mohawks are so swagged out.

Knick Swisher · Post #18 » by **Knick Swisher** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:41 pm

Ghetto Gospel · Post #19 » by **Ghetto Gospel** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:41 pm

This is a good deal. Plenty of teams would have given James Harden this same exact contract.

Pharmcat · Post #20 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:46 pm

nothing wrong with this contract

he is a star

stars get paid